base talk Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars of the 21st Century | #3 Rihanna

[duybeeGAshantiGA]

On 11/2/2024 at 5:44 PM, LosingHimWasBlue said:

Bold of you to assume Gaga would be Top 5. 
 

5. Maroon 5 / Beyonce

4. Maroon 5 / Beyonce

3. Rihanna

2. Drake

1. Taylor Swift

 

if Katy on Top 25 with back to back gigantic era (TD & Prism), i could see Gaga on Top 30. 

 

On 11/2/2024 at 6:25 PM, LosingHimWasBlue said:

 I didn't know that.

 

Billboard didn't mention Morgan Wallen, i fear he would be Top 5 instead Gaga.

I still believe Gaga wouldn't be Top 5

Embarrassing.

[KKCuteCat]

9 hours ago, NEUTRON said:

A lot of huge sellers from the early 2000's have not remained culturally or musically relevant over the years.

 

Highly doubt anyone was expecting to see Norah Jones on the list

I didn't expect her to be on the list. But not even on the honourable mention list is weird. She outsold some people there. I mean, Ke$ha is there too and she has like one mid huge era  . And also there are Cardi B, Doja Cat, Olivia, who i don't think bigger than Norah commercially and culturally during their peaks. The criteria is weird. 

[Titanbaddie]

Biggest does not and has never meant GREATEST.

 

Greatest is not going to be about who has sold the most amount because some artists have clear advantages over others and will always have them by virtue of being unpolarizing in their art, more focused on commercial success, being born white and and and  and

 

This list is about who is objectively the BEST popstar of our time and nobody who watches what Beyonce did at Coachella is going to think that's less impressive than selling a lot of records. 

 

Again McDonald's might sell a lot of burgers but it doesn't mean anyone is going to place it above gourmet restaurants in terms of quality and excellence. Unless of course you're a 12 year old girl who cares more about the happy meal toy attached to the burger than the food you're consuming. 

Edited November 4 by Titanbaddie

[piotrert]

18 minutes ago, Titanbaddie said:

This list is about who is objectively the BEST

and who is the oracle to say what is objective 

 

only objective things are those that can be measured and compared, which are sales, streams, social media engagement etc. cultural impact is by no means measurable, because how do you measure the impact of coachella performance compared to superbowl performance? it's all subjective and based on individual measures

[Shinning]

4 hours ago, piotrert said:

and who is the oracle to say what is objective 

 

only objective things are those that can be measured and compared, which are sales, streams, social media engagement etc. cultural impact is by no means measurable, because how do you measure the impact of coachella performance compared to superbowl performance? it's all subjective and based on individual measures

This list is not mean to be objective though. It's the opinion of Billboard's staff, they're not trying to play oracle. But it's obvious this list is taking more into account than just sales and streams, they publish weekly charts for that.

[John Slayne]

Gaga coming for that top 3 placement just as i predicted 

[Sugden]

Britney stans are so delusional, realistically she shoudn't even be above ariana or most ARTISTS on this list

[Sugden]

On 11/2/2024 at 8:25 AM, LosingHimWasBlue said:

 I didn't know that.

 

Billboard didn't mention Morgan Wallen, i fear he would be Top 5 instead Gaga.

I still believe Gaga wouldn't be Top 5

 

#5 Lady Gaga

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-greatest-pop-stars-21st-century-1235820530/

[atemyheartinc]

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-greatest-pop-stars-21st-century-1235820530/

 

 

With her explosive emergence in the late '00s, Gaga raised the bar for all facets of pop superstardom, while her continued evolution has kept her vital into the 2020s.

 

Edited November 5 by atemyheartinc

[Richie.Valdez]

Lady Gaga #5, cute spot, congratulations 

[MerveAksak]

7 minutes ago, atemyheartinc said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-greatest-pop-stars-21st-century-1235820530/

 

 

With her explosive emergence in the late '00s, Gaga raised the bar for all facets of pop superstardom, while her continued evolution has kept her vital into the 2020s.

 

Oh godga, the impact you have 

[JennyWayne]

17 hours ago, John Slayne said:

Gaga coming for that top 3 placement just as i predicted 

You jinxed it ma'am

 

[Calvin]

I can't believe Eminem is not in top 5. 

[Zeferino]

Yes my faves being one right after the other 

[Almodusa]

[GraceRandolph]

On 11/3/2024 at 1:26 PM, The Music Industry said:

And yet Taylor is still the bigger artist of the two by every measurable metric. Taylor is objectively the biggest pop star of the 21st century 

It's not about the biggest, it's about GREATEST. What's not clicking?

[UnusualBoy]

Top 5 icon  

[Little Dark Age]

Drake above Gaga is actually a joke I do fear

[Solar]

Love Britney but Lady Gaga above her is totally right. It's a 2024 list yall.

Edited November 5 by Solar

[Infernal Paradise]

Gaga has also demonstrated an ability to cater to different audiences by allowing her creativity to roam free. She's been chasing her muse for 15 years, and whatever she comes up with next, you can bet that she's going to pour her entire artistic soul into that endeavor, and that a lot of people will wrap their arms around it.

That's why Lady Gaga has resonated with an entire generation of pop fans, from the longtime Little Monsters to the casual fans who can hum along to more of her hits than they realize, to the new stars like Chappell Roan who are internalizing Gaga's performance art while existing at pop's current vanguard. As a breath of fresh air on late 2000s radio, a button-pushing provocateur trying on different sounds, or a leading lady gracing the most prestigious stages or a daring performer commanding audiences of thousands, Lady Gaga has always been authentically herself, and will continue to be that forever – whether making social statements, presenting grand artistic projects, or simply proclaiming, "Rahhh, rahhh, ah-ah-ahhh!"

 

[Konril]

Now we await Gaga's boatmate in the first class suite of the Top 5. 

[Vegvisir]

19 minutes ago, atemyheartinc said:

https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/lady-gaga-greatest-pop-stars-21st-century-1235820530/

 

 

With her explosive emergence in the late '00s, Gaga raised the bar for all facets of pop superstardom, while her continued evolution has kept her vital into the 2020s.

 

...b-b-but ATRL told me Gaga (#5) and Katy (#25) were boat mates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[alexrex]

Ava Max is #4 

[GraceRandolph]

On 11/2/2024 at 5:44 AM, LosingHimWasBlue said:

Bold of you to assume Gaga would be Top 5. 

[dumbsparce]

Bullshit upon bullshit. In the real world Gaga belongs in the top 3 with Britney and Rihanna.