base talk Billboard's Greatest Pop Stars of the 21st Century | #1 Beyoncé

[Great808]

That's really a stretch considering Bey has had barely 3,4 solid hits the past decade and back to back front loaded albums. Lemonade has hilarious streaming numbers and CC will be getting outstreamed by possibly every other major album released this year when we all look back on it's numbers throughout this decade. Also just remembered that one thread a while back where a lot of y'all were pointing out how a lot of the newcomers don't always cite her or her performances as inspiration. Gaga and Taylor seem to be the ones most of the new girls look up to, with Gaga even taking credibility from male artists as well. I would also go on to say even Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 
 

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20. 🤷🏽‍♂️ At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

[ABeyBraith]

27 minutes ago, Arrows said:

Not the words "Taylor" and "Swift" being among the first 3 words mentioned in the article

 

Meanwhile Beyoncé wasn't mentioned once in Taylor's article. Why is Billboard like this…

They only did this because of the vitriol from her rabid fans after Taylor's placement last week 

[Wicked]

2 minutes ago, Great808 said:

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20.

Drake has had more music and cultural impact and influence than Bruno Mars... 

 

This sites continuous struggle with intangibles such as those things is hilarious.

[Fleahive]

3 minutes ago, Great808 said:

At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

And trust me we don't care. We're just rubbing it in the faces of people (you) who are losing sleep over a list. 

[Elementary]

3 minutes ago, Great808 said:

Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 

Dddd; 

May I remind you Billboard is using US numbers?

[Fleahive]

1 minute ago, Wicked said:

Drake has had more music and cultural impact and influence than Bruno Mars... 

 

This sites continuous struggle with intangibles such as those things is hilarious.

You can tell who can't see past their recency bias lenses. Drag em. 

[LegaMyth]

6 minutes ago, Great808 said:

That's really a stretch considering Bey has had barely 3,4 solid hits the past decade and back to back front loaded albums. Lemonade has hilarious streaming numbers and CC will be getting outstreamed by possibly every other major album released this year when we all look back on it's numbers throughout this decade. Also just remembered that one thread a while back where a lot of y'all were pointing out how a lot of the newcomers don't always cite her or her performances as inspiration. Gaga and Taylor seem to be the ones most of the new girls look up to, with Gaga even taking credibility from male artists as well. I would also go on to say even Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 
 

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20. 🤷🏽‍♂️ At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

This post is full of lies. Bey is the one the new girls look up to the most.

[Lovett]

7 minutes ago, Great808 said:

That's really a stretch considering Bey has had barely 3,4 solid hits the past decade and back to back front loaded albums. Lemonade has hilarious streaming numbers and CC will be getting outstreamed by possibly every other major album released this year when we all look back on it's numbers throughout this decade. Also just remembered that one thread a while back where a lot of y'all were pointing out how a lot of the newcomers don't always cite her or her performances as inspiration. Gaga and Taylor seem to be the ones most of the new girls look up to, with Gaga even taking credibility from male artists as well. I would also go on to say even Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 
 

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20. 🤷🏽‍♂️ At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

This is exactly why the Swifties have been having these big sobbing fits for a week now. Sorry girls, but you can't Spotify stream your way to being the greatest pop star of the 21st century. That comes with talent and no matter how hard you bash your keyboard to try and paint a woman out to be a flop when she's sold 350 million records, you're not going to change that.

 

We love to see you worked up over it though.

[mael]

Multiple mentions of Taylor..

 

 

thank you billboard for including Lana Del Rey on your greatest pop star  list 

Edited 22 hours ago by mael

[nostalgic]

Bey, Taylor, & Rih rounding out the top 3 couldn't be a better encapsulation of 21st century pop culture. Well deserved for all  attempts to diminish any of their achievements and overall impact are purely tone deaf.

[JonginBey]

Queen of Everything for a REASON! Anyone who thought this list would turn out differently shouldn't be thinking at all

 

[Burn]

8 minutes ago, Great808 said:

That's really a stretch considering Bey has had barely 3,4 solid hits the past decade and back to back front loaded albums. Lemonade has hilarious streaming numbers and CC will be getting outstreamed by possibly every other major album released this year when we all look back on it's numbers throughout this decade. Also just remembered that one thread a while back where a lot of y'all were pointing out how a lot of the newcomers don't always cite her or her performances as inspiration. Gaga and Taylor seem to be the ones most of the new girls look up to, with Gaga even taking credibility from male artists as well. I would also go on to say even Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 
 

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20. 🤷🏽‍♂️ At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

Since you wanna bring GaGa into the conversation, let's do this shall we:

 

Their recent achievements:

 

Cowboy Carter: #1, 407k debut 🏆

Harlequin: #20, 25k debut 💀

 

Texas Hold 'Em: #1 🏆

Disease: #27 💀

 

Renaissance World Tour: $579m 🏆

The Chromatica Ball: $112m 💀

 

and now...

 

Billboard Greatest Pop Stars of the 21st century:

Beyoncé: #1 🏆

Lady GaGa: #5 💀

[HarajukuPrincess]

3 hours ago, dnboy1 said:

Beyonce: Best Pop Singers of 21st Century (No. 1)

 

#TalentWon

Well deserved 

[Great808]

1 minute ago, Burn said:

Since you wanna bring GaGa into the conversation, let's do this shall we:

 

Their recent achievements:

 

Cowboy Carter: #1, 407k debut 🏆

Harlequin: #20, 25k debut 💀

 

Texas Hold 'Em: #1 🏆

Disease: #27 💀

 

Renaissance World Tour: $579m 🏆

The Chromatica Ball: $112m 💀

 

and now...

 

Billboard Greatest Pop Stars of the 21st century:

Beyoncé: #1 🏆

Lady GaGa: #5 💀

CC 407k debut and has barely manage to make that number up again almost a year later thanks for reminding us that. Even Gaga's Country album had more impact than CC I promise you no other artists will be following suite after listening to that. 
 

THE is also the lowest performing #1 this year so far if you really wanna go there. Like I've said before Bey is one of those artists that even when she's winning she's still losing. 

[Capris Groove]

Even as someone who's just sort of comme ci, comme ça on Beyoncé, she is absolutely the fair and accurate #1. She's a bona fine superstar.

[Bloo]

Congratulations to Beyoncé!  It's well deserved.

 

(Hoping y'all stay calm and aren't too annoying about a dumb Billboard list.)

[wildsidenormani]

 

Exactly Billboard. It's about that that fanbase is humbled and put in their place

[Joaco95]

6 minutes ago, Great808 said:

Even Gaga's Country album had more impact than CC I promise you no other artists will be following suite after listening to that. 

 

Lead single peak: #15 (6 weeks on chart)

Second single peak (mind you this was a promo single, they did the same thing to venus when it flopped and decided to make dwuw the next single instead): 4 (20 weeks on chart)

Third single peak: error 404

 

 

 

[swissman]

51 minutes ago, Great808 said:

That's really a stretch considering Bey has had barely 3,4 solid hits the past decade and back to back front loaded albums. Lemonade has hilarious streaming numbers and CC will be getting outstreamed by possibly every other major album released this year when we all look back on it's numbers throughout this decade. Also just remembered that one thread a while back where a lot of y'all were pointing out how a lot of the newcomers don't always cite her or her performances as inspiration. Gaga and Taylor seem to be the ones most of the new girls look up to, with Gaga even taking credibility from male artists as well. I would also go on to say even Shakira has had more impact mind you she's a Latin artist. 
 

But then just keep in mind this is the publication that put Drake at #5 and Bruno Mars at #20. 🤷🏽‍♂️ At the end of the day the Bey stans have been the one for years screaming that they don't need validation from White publications and credibility sources yet suddenly over the moon at this lmao. 

In the last ~decade, despite having only 3-4 "sold hits" she instead:

 

• Changed the music industry by surprise dropping a visual album leading to almost every artist changing how they approach promotion/releases and a whole bunch of visual albums
• Released a Peabody-winning visual album that addressed racial politics like no other popstar has done since Janet in 1989, for which she embarked on the first female-led full stadium tour in pop history.
• Put on one of the most acclaimed and watched concerts of all time: Homecoming at Coachella which also had an associated live album become one of the most acclaimed albums of the decade, as well as being one of the most consumed
• Released two [flop but still great] side projects just for the fun of it, one coming with a stunning visual album
• Had the longest running Hot 100 hit of her career, 25 years into it, plus an acclaimed album (RENAISSANCE) which introduced a trilogy and a conversation about Black art
• And followed that with succeeding in a genre entirely different than what she's known for, and again sparked conversations and set up the success of one of the longest running #1 hits in Hot 100 history (currently, tied, I believe).
  
  Your points about people not citing her is also completely untrue. Everyone from Adele to Taylor to Gaga to Rihanna to Megan to Sabrina Carpenter to Renée Rapp have all cited her as an influence.

[Kristie Kuwa]

1 hour ago, Arrows said:

Not the words "Taylor" and "Swift" being among the first 3 words mentioned in the article

 

Meanwhile Beyoncé wasn't mentioned once in Taylor's article. Why is Billboard like this…

Wrong question.

Your question should be: Why are Swifties so insecure and vile that a reputable music company like Billboard feels the excessive need to justify their pick?

Edited 21 hours ago by Kristie Kuwa

[swissman]

1 hour ago, Arrows said:

Not the words "Taylor" and "Swift" being among the first 3 words mentioned in the article

 

Meanwhile Beyoncé wasn't mentioned once in Taylor's article. Why is Billboard like this…

This simply is not true.

 

First of all, you're using the byline as part of the article, and if you are doing that, then actually the first three words of the article are: "BILLBOARD'S GREATEST POP..." and it continues by saying "STARS OF THE 21ST CENTURY: NO. 1 — BEYONCÉ"

And if you continue after the first three words in the byline you'll read: "...Beyoncé tops our staff-chosen editorial list based on her full 25 years of influence, impact, evolution."

[swissman]

1 hour ago, Arrows said:

Not the words "Taylor" and "Swift" being among the first 3 words mentioned in the article

 

Meanwhile Beyoncé wasn't mentioned once in Taylor's article. Why is Billboard like this…

This simply is not true.

 

First of all, you're using the byline as part of the article, and if you are doing that, then actually the first three words of the article are: "BILLBOARD'S GREATEST POP..." and it continues by saying "STARS OF THE 21ST CENTURY: NO. 1 — BEYONCÉ"

And if you continue after the first three words in the byline you'll read: "...Beyoncé tops our staff-chosen editorial list based on her full 25 years of influence, impact, evolution."

[swissman]

It's kinda silly how for about a week so many Swifties have been spiralling because Taylor is #2, demeaning Beyoncé, going out of their way to post shady things about her, detracting from her accomplishments, purposefully comparing her to Taylor in ways (sales, usually) that Taylor comes out on top, accusing Beyoncé of copying Taylor because she also is selling a book, etc. etc.

 

...and then when Billboard writes the reasons why Beyoncé was named #1 and not Taylor in Beyoncé's article, there's so many using it as gotcha moment as if their meltdowns didn't likely cause this, as if the answer to the question they've been screaming about for an admission of something other than Billboard doubling down on Beyoncé being #1.

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by swissman

[visions]

Congratulations Beyoncé!

 

The bottom line is no other popstar of this century gives SUPERSTAR like Beyoncé does. She is everything a popstar should be and more. 

 

The voice,

The dancing,

The great and varied discography,

The performances and stage presence,

The AURA. 

 

TABS across the board 

[Starshine]

The header. I knew Beyoncé was a stud..