Charmed Life Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 23 minutes ago, stevyy said: not for singing. For VHS tapes and DVDs. <3 The art on it, not the format. lol. Not everyone has a knack of producing fine art that stretches decades in to their career Edited August 2 by Charmed Life
modeblock Posted August 2 Posted August 2 You don't have to prove that Mariah is a legend, we all already know this. The entire world knows her, same with Madonna. No amount of streaming or non-streaming is going to change that. Madonna's only peer here is Whitney. It doesn't matter how much Mariah and Celine are streaming compared to her because THEY ARE NOT HER PEERS. Your obsession with comparing their numbers all over this forum, in such humorless and clearly FUMING type-of-way, is low-key exhausting just to look at, can't imagine what it's like to be living it. LET IT GO SIS 1
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 13 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: Madge fans are collectors, not streamers. Which is shy she sold 400m and Mariah didn't. LOL. So a good 190 million physical + digital songs? Mariah Carey has sold 275m recordings acc to chartsmasters. Albums: 153,153,000 Songs: 121,292,000 Digitally: 80,664,000 Physically: 40,628,000 = 274,445,000 In traditional sales only Madonna, Mariah and Whitney have crossed 100 million in each albums and singles sales. <3 Whitney: Albums: 131,625,000 Songs: 104,494,000 digitally: 54,934,000 physically: 49,560,000 GREAT. That's 236,119,000 music recordings. BTW, your claim of 190,000,000 songs for Madonna is not backed by Chartsmasters at all. Singles: 130,385,000 physically: 75,200,000 digitally: 55,185,000 I think CM - as fraud as that site may be - should come remotely close to 190m. 1
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 15 hours ago, Chris said: I know I did not just read someone say Mariah became a millionaire by selling her music. What the f*ck did Madonna do then? Eat baloney sandwiches for the past 40 years? Some are you are so ****** ignorant, stupid, and lack brain cells. My goodness. At what point did I question Madonna's success? being stupid must be a prerequisite for being a fan of pop grandma
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 19 hours ago, Charmed Life said: A rare moment where she's actually vertical. rarer than that, just a Madonna show with a microphone on 1
Charmed Life Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Just now, stevyy said: Mariah Carey has sold 275m recordings acc to chartsmasters. So in additon to posting inacurate Spotify lists, your source for sales = chartmasters? A source that massively inflates Mariah's, while deflating and devalueing Madonna's? 1
tiagol88 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 14 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: So in additon to posting inacurate Spotify lists, your source for sales = chartmasters? A source that massively inflates Mariah's, while deflating and devalueing Madonna's? I think the last time they updated Madona's sales was like in 2017 1
Charmed Life Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Poncho Barlliams said: rarer than that, just a Madonna show with a microphone on Mariah's voice left her high and dry years ago. Let's remind ourselves of how she performed with a backing track: Not content with embarrassing herself, she also gave her dancers a Hernia. What an icon Edited August 2 by Charmed Life
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 24 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: So in additon to posting inacurate Spotify lists, your source for sales = chartmasters? A source that massively inflates Mariah's, while deflating and devalueing Madonna's? The Spotify list isn't inaccurate. It's actually updated, unlike the kworb list your friend posted. 1
Charmed Life Posted August 2 Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: I think the last time they updated Madona's sales was like in 2017 Yes, and even then it was incorrect. lol
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: I think the last time they updated Madona's sales was like in 2017 How many physical singles has she sold since 2017? I've added 13 million in digital track sales to the CM total of 2017 in my estimation. (I thought she needed that). Chartsmasters + my generous gift lands her at 130 million song sales (traditional sales). Not 190m. Why 13 million u ask? Because I believe that Chartsmasters underestimated her digital track sales and catalogue sales are hard to estimate. May it be for Mariah or Madonna or anyone. I only know soundscan for Mariah and I assume that while not as strong as Mariah on that front when it comes to digital sales, Madonna is probably at 60 million when Mariah is at 80 million. Glee and the use of Madonna music in other media certainly helped digital catalogue sales. That is why I upped the CM estimation by over 10 million for Madonna.
tiagol88 Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 minute ago, stevyy said: How many physical singles has she sold since 2017? I've added 13 million in digital track sales to the CM total of 2017 in my estimation. (I thought she needed that). Chartsmasters + my generous gift lands her at 130 million song sales (traditional sales). Not 190m. Why 13 million u ask? Because I believe that Chartsmasters underestimated her digital track sales and catalogue sales are hard to estimate. May it be for Mariah or Madonna or anyone. I only know soundscan for Mariah and I assume that while not as strong as Mariah on that front when it comes to digital sales, Madonna is probably at 60 million when Mariah is at 80 million. Glee and the use of Madonna music in other media certainly helped digital catalogue sales. That is why I upped the CM estimation by over 10 million for Madonna. Yes i'm sure the biggest female recording artist of all time needs you to add sales as a little gift lmao 2
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 3 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: Yes, and even then it was incorrect. lol your estimation of 190 million physical and digital sales isn't accurate either - nor is it a reasonable or reality based estimation. CM may be at the low end, but it's not complete fiction. It's a good ballpark to dig deeper. It's well established that Madonna sold around 80 million physical singles. 110 million digital track sales is so far off the deep end of QAnon, that using such an estimation is as bright as saying Music Box sold 32 million copies.
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 Just now, tiagol88 said: Yes i'm sure the biggest female recording artist of all time needs you to add sales as a little gift lmao I explained my reasoning based on known digital sales from artists that had hits at the time. I guess you think that her catalogue digital tracks sold as much as a regular Black Eyed Peas single from 2009 or sth like that. lol.
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 38 minutes ago, Poncho Barlliams said: rarer than that, just a Madonna show with a microphone on that was a funny burn. lol.
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 Just a reminder that Falling Into You has surpassed 1 billion streams yesterday. 2
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 18 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: Mariah's voice left her high and dry years ago. Let's remind ourselves of how she performed with a backing track: Not content with embarrassing herself, she also gave her dancers a Hernia. What an icon 2016 ? It's 2024 in case you didn't know
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 Madonna's fans crying because the CM doesn't estimate Erotica sales at 2 billion copies
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 8 minutes ago, stevyy said: Just a reminder that Falling Into You has surpassed 1 billion streams yesterday. a legitimate blockbuster, True Blue could never
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Poncho Barlliams said: Madonna's fans crying because the CM doesn't estimate Erotica sales at 2 billion copies the funny thing is that the same person who thinks cm is inaccurate, used it in another thread (about the biggest artists of the decade)... yelling in all seriousness Céline's massice 1st compilation album: All The Way, sold 23 million copies in 6 weeks in 1999. (soundscan has the album at 2,9 million in 1999, so 20 million outside the US in 6 weeks? The concept of artists selling music within their decades or a limited timeframe like a decade goes above their heads. In that specific case, I estimated (using Chartsmasters) and reason that both Mariah and Céline sold over 110m albums in real time between 1990 and Dec 31st 1999. They are so unreasonable and spiteful... it's like debating with 12 y.o. who've just disvovered the internet. One of Madonna flock then posted KWORB spotify numbers in order to say I would post wrong numbers when the kworb numbers were not even updated to the day we were talking about. I mean I could post kworb from 6 months ago too and act af it was today. lol. so dumb. 1
stevyy Posted August 2 Author Posted August 2 6 minutes ago, Poncho Barlliams said: a legitimate blockbuster, True Blue could never It may come as a shock to many people, but Madonna is my 3rd most streamed artist (2011-present) 01 - 52,318 streams - Mariah Carey 14 - 9,403 streams - Madonna 20 - 7,707 streams - Whitney 23 - 7,163 streams - Céline 36 - 5,758 streams - Janet What a legendary lineup.
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 14 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: Yes i'm sure the biggest female recording artist of all time needs you to add sales as a little gift lmao Madonna is the female artist who sold the most albums, and yet you are saying that CM is "stealing" your sales, it doesn't make sense He makes it very clear that she is the woman who sold the most albums/CDs
Charmed Life Posted August 2 Posted August 2 24 minutes ago, stevyy said: Just a reminder that Falling Into You has surpassed 1 billion streams yesterday. Good,. I like Celine, unlike Mariah. 2
Poncho Barlliams Posted August 2 Posted August 2 6 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: Bom. Eu gosto de Celine, ao contrário de Mariah. imagine not liking the greatest songwrinter in history
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