Chris Posted August 9 Posted August 9 Are there artists that have different versions of songs (radio edit, different instrumental) but their streams are merged?
MP3 Posted August 9 Posted August 9 The thing is even if Mariah does more streams, these people don't buy her tickets and it's enough said 1 1
Chris Posted August 9 Posted August 9 52 minutes ago, MP3 said: The thing is even if Mariah does more streams, these people don't buy her tickets and it's enough said Ruthless.
Charmed Life Posted August 11 Posted August 11 On 8/9/2024 at 3:32 AM, MP3 said: The thing is even if Mariah does more streams, these people don't buy her tickets and it's enough said
Chris Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Not the lambs waiting for the holiday season to hit. Ya'll aren't slick.
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 On 8/9/2024 at 4:32 AM, MP3 said: The thing is even if Mariah does more streams, these people don't buy her tickets and it's enough said 17/19 November, 2023 - 34,631 / 34,631 - $6,229,487 - Hollywood Bowl 2023 - 16 dates - 15 reported shows - Xmas Tour: 213,709 tickets sold - $29,624,435 2024 - 8 shows - 8 reported shows - TCOM Residency - 46,096 tickets sold - $8,294,469 2024 - 8 shows - 0 reported shows - TCOM Residency - *just finished on Saturday* == 259,805 tickets sold - 23 shows - $37,918,904 If only your drag was based on facts. The woman made $45 million in the past 10 months from 31 concerts. Even her residency is slaying. She's about to hit Italy, then China and Brazil and then she'll embark on her biggest US Tour yet in November. (The new Xmas show in November has the potential to sell over 300,000 tickets and gross $40 million). <3 If 600,000 tickets sales and $85 million in a 52-weeks period is NOTHING... then education has failed you, my dear.
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Chris said: Not the lambs waiting for the holiday season to hit. Ya'll aren't slick. Madonna only has got 19 songs above 30k daily streams that is with a new release of LAP and the Deadpool boost. Mariah has 23 songs above 30k daily. Deep catalogue songs may not be Madonna's forté, afterall her biggest hit ever is a feature. Popular and LAP (Deadpool Boost) make up 40% of her entire streams. Ur drag ain't slick. Mariah's top 2 songs only accounted for 22% of her total streams yesterday. (and they are both solo tracks). It's a weird concept to me to celebrate someone for having almost half of her stream come from 2 tracks. Seems like someone without a massive catalogue of music.
MP3 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, stevyy said: 17/19 November, 2023 - 34,631 / 34,631 - $6,229,487 - Hollywood Bowl 2023 - 16 dates - 15 reported shows - Xmas Tour: 213,709 tickets sold - $29,624,435 2024 - 8 shows - 8 reported shows - TCOM Residency - 46,096 tickets sold - $8,294,469 2024 - 8 shows - 0 reported shows - TCOM Residency - *just finished on Saturday* == 259,805 tickets sold - 23 shows - $37,918,904 If only your drag was based on facts. The woman made $45 million in the past 10 months from 31 concerts. Even her residency is slaying. She's about to hit Italy, then China and Brazil and then she'll embark on her biggest US Tour yet in November. (The new Xmas show in November has the potential to sell over 300,000 tickets and gross $40 million). <3 If 600,000 tickets sales and $85 million in a 52-weeks period is NOTHING... then education has failed you, my dear. But in all perspective of her streams being higher than others like Celine and Madonna she's still underperforming by a big margin. That was the point of my post. Her streaming numbers don't match her touring numbers, and this is facts
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 3 minutes ago, MP3 said: But in all perspective of her streams being higher than others like Celine and Madonna she's still underperforming by a big margin. That was the point of my post. Her streaming numbers don't match her touring numbers, and this is facts U literally said that nobody was buying her tickets, despite the fact that she's already sold 260,000-310,000 tickets in the past 9 months (depending on what the 2nd leg of her residency did which concluded this Saturday). concerts =/= music sales / music streaming. Mariah first visited Europe for a concert in 1996 (6 years after her debut, 6 albums in). And she only gave 4 concerts in Europe? Where her streams are bigger, she can sell more tickets (USA, UK, OZ, Asia, South Africa). Mariah's touring problem has always been: no stage production, very short tours when she was at her peak, long periods between tours, no touring reputation... but that never diminished her ability to shift music. In the past 10 years, Mariah Carey has performed twice as many concerts as in the 20 years before that. She'll never be on Madonna's and Céline touring level. I mean Céline's 1st Vegas residency had twice as many concerts as Mariah's entire touring career. It's also funny that you would use the 2 biggest touring acts ever to compare Mariah to. Rihanna has 8x more streams than Madonna. Her GGB Tour only has $11 million in reported shows. Her entire touring career has grossed $400 million. By your logic: Shouldn't she have grossed some multiple billions? Dua Lipa has 5x more streams than Madonna. But her 91 shows strong FN Tour barely made it past $100 million. She had concerts with only 6,000 people attending. Mariah's doing what she's doing... and by the looks of it, her touring numbers are better than what you say they would be. One more thing for the purpose of common sense: If she were doing as badly as you claim, how would she be able to continue touring? The notion that she would be performing in parking lots and cafés is so out of left field, that I have to gag. I mean if The Budokan in Japan or The O2 in London or Madison Square Garden are mere parking lots... then I cannot respond to you anymore.
Stuart Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Now, now, why are y'all talking about touring numbers in a thread about streaming ? Spoiler Lemme report y'all for off-topic Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler 1
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: He's still at it. 601,907,276 - 2009 - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel stream it.
MP3 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 8 hours ago, stevyy said: U literally said that nobody was buying her tickets, despite the fact that she's already sold 260,000-310,000 tickets in the past 9 months (depending on what the 2nd leg of her residency did which concluded this Saturday). concerts =/= music sales / music streaming. Mariah first visited Europe for a concert in 1996 (6 years after her debut, 6 albums in). And she only gave 4 concerts in Europe? Where her streams are bigger, she can sell more tickets (USA, UK, OZ, Asia, South Africa). Mariah's touring problem has always been: no stage production, very short tours when she was at her peak, long periods between tours, no touring reputation... but that never diminished her ability to shift music. In the past 10 years, Mariah Carey has performed twice as many concerts as in the 20 years before that. She'll never be on Madonna's and Céline touring level. I mean Céline's 1st Vegas residency had twice as many concerts as Mariah's entire touring career. It's also funny that you would use the 2 biggest touring acts ever to compare Mariah to. Rihanna has 8x more streams than Madonna. Her GGB Tour only has $11 million in reported shows. Her entire touring career has grossed $400 million. By your logic: Shouldn't she have grossed some multiple billions? Dua Lipa has 5x more streams than Madonna. But her 91 shows strong FN Tour barely made it past $100 million. She had concerts with only 6,000 people attending. Mariah's doing what she's doing... and by the looks of it, her touring numbers are better than what you say they would be. One more thing for the purpose of common sense: If she were doing as badly as you claim, how would she be able to continue touring? The notion that she would be performing in parking lots and cafés is so out of left field, that I have to gag. I mean if The Budokan in Japan or The O2 in London or Madison Square Garden are mere parking lots... then I cannot respond to you anymore. For a supposed legacy act with multiple records and #1 singles, people just seem to not rush to go see her in concert, that's all I was just saying
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 41 minutes ago, MP3 said: For a supposed legacy act with multiple records and #1 singles, people just seem to not rush to go see her in concert, that's all I was just saying depends on your understanding of rushing. And isn't it general concensus among Madonna fans that Mariah Carey never had any hits?
Chris Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Most of these albums have one huge streaming hit that basically gives them those numbers so this while discussion is pointless.
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 16 minutes ago, Chris said: Most of these albums have one huge streaming hit that basically gives them those numbers so this while discussion is pointless. and Madonna doesn't have 1 huge hit on her albums? that's "sus"
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 Oh I see, Madonna biggest song is a collaboration, I forgot. I guess her catalogue is pretty forgotten, innit?
Chris Posted August 13 Posted August 13 All we know is Madonna is currently having more daily streams than Mariah Carey despite her being "less relevant" to the newer generation. 2
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Chris said: All we know is Madonna is currently having more daily streams than Mariah Carey despite her being "less relevant" to the newer generation. 40% of that is coming from 2 song of which one is a collabo. The relevance that that has.
Charmed Life Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I can't wait to see how that person will react if anything from her next album is a hit, especially if it's solo.
stevyy Posted August 13 Author Posted August 13 48 minutes ago, Charmed Life said: I can't wait to see how that person will react if anything from her next album is a hit, especially if it's solo. Gurl, none of them will ever get another solo hit. lol. I can't wait to see how you will react when (not if) Mariah collects a billion xmas streams this season. <3 U better shop some xanax.
Charmed Life Posted August 13 Posted August 13 34 minutes ago, stevyy said: Gurl, none of them will ever get another solo hit. lol. I can't wait to see how you will react when (not if) Mariah collects a billion xmas streams this season. <3 U better shop some xanax. Yet another predictable response. I will react the exact same way as I did when she went to #1 with that Christmas ditty - zero f's given. It would be different if it was new material, but it's not.
Mandalay Posted August 14 Posted August 14 13 hours ago, Charmed Life said: I can't wait to see how that person will react if anything from her next album is a hit, especially if it's solo. Forget about a hit, the last time Madonna charted solo on hot 100 was in ice age or something.
Charmed Life Posted August 14 Posted August 14 1 hour ago, Mandalay said: Forget about a hit, the last time Madonna charted solo on hot 100 was in ice age or something. Mariah fans certainly love to exagerate. Solo songs Celebration (71) and Give it 2 Me (57) both cracked the hot 100. Mariah's highest charting solo songs are Obsessed in 2009, so she's hardly doing any better with new material. I love how certain ATRLers hold Madonna to a higher standard than those who also haven't cracked the hot 100 in years. I guess that's what happens when you're the biggest selling female artist worldwide and a global icon.
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