vince_martin88 Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Just now, Popboi. said: If there was anyone in her team that was even remotely surprised by her flopping massively after green lighting Big Hoops as lead single... I think they were optimistic that a second single could save the era, but alas, TSI remains a cult favorite.
Mandalay Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 hours ago, Charmed Life said: So all the old classic albums that were big hits are not successful anymore (or remembered) because of their low streaming numbers? The majority of Mimi's streams are probably coming from the USA. She's not global like Madonna. As if it is a bad thing. I don't know about the breakdown on Spotify but on YouTube, Mariah's top cities would often include Asia.
cuteboyzay Posted July 26 Posted July 26 7 hours ago, MP3 said: Nobody was asking for a TEOM's fans tsunami Screaming! Girl we obviously know what this thread was gonna attract. The two biggest comebacks in Pop history in a thread about "the biggest comeback in music history"…. Like GIRL.
stevyy Posted July 26 Posted July 26 11 hours ago, Charmed Life said: So all the old classic albums that were big hits are not successful anymore (or remembered) because of their low streaming numbers? The majority of Mimi's streams are probably coming from the USA. She's not global like Madonna. In terms of charting on any Spotify chart... then TEOM seems to be very legendary in South Africa. WBT peaked inside the top 40 this year on Spotify South Africa. Let me re-direct the shade: Wouldn't it be absolutely tragic for Madonna that a single country liked the US could generate so many more streams for the TEOM era than all those 40+ #1 countries could do for HU and COADF? Celebrate TEOM hitting 1 billion streams on Sunday, by streaming it, please?
Migs Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) How was that a comeback if she was never really gone?! I get it that American Life underperformed really hard, but it's a great album. The artistry was there all the time. She needs a huge comeback now in 2024/2025. Her last albums are super weak and she is just following fads and not being the trailblazer that she once was. Mimi's Emancipation and Britney's Circus are the biggest comebacks imo. Everyone counted them out for good and they came back to shut everyone's mouths. Oh, I almost forgot about Cher's Believe. She was 50-something and came back stronger than ever. Edited July 26 by Migs 1
Charmed Life Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) 6 hours ago, stevyy said: Let me re-direct the shade: Wouldn't it be absolutely tragic for Madonna that a single country like the US could generate so many more streams for the TEOM era than all those 40+ #1 countries could do for HU and COADF? Lol, Oh so the Lambs suddenly believe those 41 countries where Hung Up was #1 now exist? Telling you Madonna is global isn't being shady, it's simply stating facts. If you can't handle that then it's really too bad. The US is the third biggest country in the world, and there isn't much diversity when it comes to music, so an album like Mimi is obviously going to generate more streams in a place where generic R+B and hip hop music runs rampant. The type of music Madonna makes doesn't fit their criteria, and even if it did, Confessions is a 12 track album, so it's not exactly fair to compare album streams with a longer tracklist to shorter ones. Tbh, I'm more than happy with Madonna receiving the majority of streams from all the smaller countries, rather than one big one like the USA, because it proves she isn't a local act. Everyone knows Mariah focuses mainly on the US because she is obsessed with her string of #1s / beating everyone elses record. I've never know anyone congratulate themselves and blow their own trumpet as much as she does re sales, charts and streams. and considering she's in the public eye every 12 months with her Christmas ditty, you would think it would generate more interest in her back catalogue, but it doesn't. Her numbers should be far bigger worldwide than what they are. Edited July 26 by Charmed Life
Chris Posted July 26 Posted July 26 This thread. Madonna is global. Mariah Carey is also global. END OF STORY. 2
rebeltwat Posted July 26 Posted July 26 Love Madonna the most but Mariah felt bigger in 2005 than Madonna did. Maybe because I'm based in North America but also the album had more singles + a deluxe version with a #1 single sooo I'm inclined to vote for Mariah
Kern Posted July 27 Posted July 27 I'm from Europe and it was impossible to escape Confessions era. Hung Up and Sorry felt like ultimate summer smashes. It was actually insane, I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing whenever these songs would play somewhere on radio or MTV. I was in elementary school then 1
Chris Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) On 7/25/2024 at 8:49 AM, humbz said: overall worldwide longevity Yet WBT is getting out-streamed by two 80s songs currently. So much for worldwide longevity. Edited July 27 by Chris 1
MP3 Posted July 28 Author Posted July 28 On 7/26/2024 at 7:39 PM, rebeltwat said: Love Madonna the most but Mariah felt bigger in 2005 than Madonna did. Maybe because I'm based in North America but also the album had more singles + a deluxe version with a #1 single sooo I'm inclined to vote for Mariah Maybe in the US but in Canada it was way more about COADF it was all over the news, Hung Up was playing on radio every hour or so, when she came in Montreal for the Confessions Tour she was fallowed by a helicopter from the airport to her hotel it was very something 1
reymiu Posted July 28 Posted July 28 On 7/26/2024 at 9:56 AM, Mandalay said: As if it is a bad thing. I don't know about the breakdown on Spotify but on YouTube, Mariah's top cities would often include Asia. Here in Asia ppl love Mimi's 90s ballads But when she switched to more urban in 00s ppl don't really like actually Through The Rain, We Belong Together were popular here But the urban tracks (It Like That, Shake It Off etc) were not
MP3 Posted July 28 Author Posted July 28 6 minutes ago, reymiu said: Here in Asia ppl love Mimi's 90s ballads But when she switched to more urban in 00s ppl don't really like actually Through The Rain, We Belong Together were popular here But the urban tracks (It Like That, Shake It Off etc) were not Asian crowds tend to like big voices, Celine, Mariah, Whitney, etc and love power ballads and AC singers, three of them are big in Asia
KKKIMO92 Posted July 28 Posted July 28 I would say American idiot hurt her badly in the state but not worldwide. And she didn't comeback to her music sales wise success in the state. But yes, it's still a proper comeback. Her hardest battle I would say was Ray of light than COTDF. She has goodwills in 2005 for a comeback since she did deliver a stellar tour.
MP3 Posted July 28 Author Posted July 28 1 hour ago, KKKIMO92 said: I would say American idiot hurt her badly in the state but not worldwide. And she didn't comeback to her music sales wise success in the state. But yes, it's still a proper comeback. Her hardest battle I would say was Ray of light than COTDF. She has goodwills in 2005 for a comeback since she did deliver a stellar tour. For sure ROL was a hard comeback too, but given the fact that she was 47 when she released COADF and it had the success it had it's something unique, I can't name an artist above 45 who had this kind of success honestly, that's what makes it spectacular
NoAngelus Posted July 28 Posted July 28 On 7/27/2024 at 5:15 PM, Kern said: I'm from Europe and it was impossible to escape Confessions era. Hung Up and Sorry felt like ultimate summer smashes. It was actually insane, I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing whenever these songs would play somewhere on radio or MTV. I was in elementary school then Era started in autumn, how were they summer smashes It's so easy to forget these days how massive she was once upon a time...
Kern Posted July 28 Posted July 28 1 hour ago, NoAngelus said: Era started in autumn, how were they summer smashes It's so easy to forget these days how massive she was once upon a time... Those songs could still be played during summer even if they were released before 1
KKKIMO92 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 16 hours ago, MP3 said: For sure ROL was a hard comeback too, but given the fact that she was 47 when she released COADF and it had the success it had it's something unique, I can't name an artist above 45 who had this kind of success honestly, that's what makes it spectacular She's been very consistent and she has a huge fanbase that's ever growing with her stellar tours. Things would be harder if she just released the American life album and did nothing after it flopped. Plus, Confession is just too excellent, Europe ate it up quick. 1
tiagol88 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 On 7/23/2024 at 11:53 PM, KatyPrismSpirit said: The Emancipation of Mimi is forever the comeback of all comebacks On 7/23/2024 at 11:55 PM, EnoughSaid said: Mariah outdid her and had the biggest comeback of all time if we're honest On 7/23/2024 at 11:55 PM, suburbannature said: It'll always be Emancipation of Mimi. A true comeback from far further depths - two involuntary psychiatric hospitalizations, label head and ex-husband openly sabotaging her, the $80 million dollar buy out, Glitter and Charmbracelet BOMBING, her mental health and commercial decline being mainstream media news for an entire summer. All of that and then ending with the Song of the Decade, 3 top 2 songs, 10 million albums sold WW, 11 Grammy noms, and IFPI #2 album for 2005. Tell me you're from the USA without telling me you're from the USA. 3
stevyy Posted July 29 Posted July 29 July 27th 706,171,025 - COADF 999,495,546 - TEOM OK, so with the 29th July update TEOM will be her 3rd billion album on Spotify.
tiagol88 Posted July 29 Posted July 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, stevyy said: July 27th 706,171,025 - COADF 999,495,546 - TEOM OK, so with the 29th July update TEOM will be her 3rd billion album on Spotify. This just proves Mariah has a better team and better playlisting than Madonna though. Madonna also didn't have record label until 3 years ago which is when her numbers started to get better. No one was pushing for her catalog in any streaming service. (also...12 songs vs 18 i think) Edited July 29 by tiagol88 1
stevyy Posted July 29 Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, tiagol88 said: This just proves Mariah has a better team and better playlisting than Madonna though. Madonna also didn't have record label until 3 years ago which is when her numbers started to get better. No one was pushing for her catalog in any streaming service. (also...12 songs vs 18 i think) Alanis has a song on her 2004 smash album which is called "Excuses". Check it out. 476,503,335 - Hung Up ---------------- 628,076,089 - We Belong Together 90,634,307 - Sorry --------------------- 120,732,899 - Shake It off 46,155,121 - Jump ----------------------- 87,561,553 - It's Like That 27,638,526 - Get Together -------------- 51,340,499 - Don't Forget About Us 12,514,923 - Forbidden Love ------------ 13,459,688 - Get Your Number 9,898,590 - Future Lovers ---------------13,078,019 - Say Somethin' 8,523,221 - Isaac ------------------------11,950,802 - Fly Like a Bird 8,055,871 - I Love New York -------------11,865,697 - Mine Again 7,361,409 - Let it will be ----------------- 10,761,556 - Circles 6,944,946 - How High --------------------9,657,903 - We Belong Together Remix 5,984,085 - Like it Or Not ---------------- 8,882,465 - Stay The Night 5,956,691 - Push -------------------------7,142,143 - One & Only = 706,171,025 ----------------------------= 974,509,313
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