MP3 Posted July 24 Author Posted July 24 45 minutes ago, Alongoria13 said: Yeah her public image was tragic around then but the Madonna brand was still in full force commercial wise, with COAD she went from 7 to 10. Mariah and Cher had it way worse IMO. To me, Madonna's comeback was the Super Bowl, which gave her the highest grossing tour of 2012, put her on the spotlight and got a new wave of fans, something that probably didn't happen again until 2024's Brazil show Yeah I remember the Super Bowl, literally everybody was talking about her, it was the very first female pop stand alone doing it, after that it opened to door to Beyoncé, Parry, Gaga, Shakira and Rihanna. It was certainly a high for her in the US, even if the show itself could have been way better
stevyy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: and despite all of this We Belong Together remains at the #1 decade-end single of the 2000s in the biggest music market globally and Don't Forget About Us was a #1 hit. Hung Up was an undeniable success but let's stop acting like COADF has as much hits as The Emancipation Of Mimi Furthermore, Mariah was the first artist to replace herself from #1 on the Hot digital Songs chart. 2005 was the first year of AIWFIY going #1 in America (on the digital charts, ineligible to chart on the H100). 1
stevyy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 hours ago, Kimi said: lows of mariah be serious it sold way more than mimi record and is more remembered too Streaming: (Spotify, July 22nd) 996,928,713 - TEOM 704,222,596 - COADF Top tracks: 475,055,234 - Hung Up ---------- 626,340,171 - We Belong Together 90,416,579 - Sorry --------------- 120,398,888 - Shake It Off 46,053,596 - Jump --------------- 87,365,770 - It's Like That 27,586,821 - Get Together -------- 51,242,956 - Don't Forget About Us 12,484,468 - Forbidden Love ----- 13,440,199 - Get Your Number All this globality, a 100 million countries at #1 and still not competing with re-current streaming with TEOM? On Sunday, TEOM will surpass 1 billion streams - Mariah's 3rd album to do so. (Madonna has none). 1 1
Bubble Tea Posted July 24 Posted July 24 The back and forth arguing in here has me HOWLING! Is it ever that serious!! 1 1
stevyy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Tropical said: The back and forth arguing in here has me HOWLING! Is it ever that serious!! I also want to know where exactly HU went to #1 because there was no point in time the world had 41 official international singles charts. A lot of charts were discontinued due to illegal downloading (pre itunes), or transverted into airplay charts or sth. 1
Chris Posted July 24 Posted July 24 The way Cher and Tina Turner getting dragged into the stan war. 1
DammnBaby Posted July 24 Posted July 24 It will always be Private Dancer. From not charting and being dropped from her label to a 12-million-selling global classic at 45. 1
stevyy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 TEOM on the official European 100 singles chart: #8 - It's Like That #4 - We belong Together #31 - Get Your Number / Shake It Off #38 - Don't Forget About Us #60 - Say Somethin' The album spawned 2 Top 10 singles in Europe and sold over 1,2 million copies across the continent (excl. sps). SIO fared better on the Official European Airplay chart, peaking at #17. By comparison, COSDF annihilated TEOM on the EU Singles / Albums Charts, but only gained 1 US Top 10 hit and fared even worse on airplay. Chartsmasters: Their respective #1 sales areas: *6,750,000 - TEOM - North America (US+CAN) 5,250,000 - COADF - Europe 2,400,000 - COADF - North America (US+CAN) 1,300,000 - TEOM - Europe *TEOM is certified 7xP (7,000,000) in the US alone. 1 1
stevyy Posted July 24 Posted July 24 6 minutes ago, DammnBaby said: It will always be Private Dancer. From not charting and being dropped from her label to a 12-million-selling global classic at 45. I agree.
4th Time Around Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Who else but Madonna could have pulled this off? We stan a legend 1 2
SleepNoMore Posted July 24 Posted July 24 The fact that this wasn't even her first incredible comeback. Ray of Light was also a stunning comeback success for her years prior. She truly is the queen of pop with so many imperial eras. 4
Richie.Valdez Posted July 24 Posted July 24 This is a MADONNA thread… why the Mariah Stan is having a meltdown with dozens of posts? OT. Yes.. Madonna's triumph with COADF was GLOBAL.. and we are not even counting THE Confessions Tour, her comeback is the biggest. 1 1
Mandalay Posted July 24 Posted July 24 It is Mariah Carey's TEOM. You would know it if you lived through those eras. 1 1 1
Mandalay Posted July 24 Posted July 24 2 hours ago, stevyy said: Streaming: (Spotify, July 22nd) 996,928,713 - TEOM 704,222,596 - COADF Top tracks: 475,055,234 - Hung Up ---------- 626,340,171 - We Belong Together 90,416,579 - Sorry --------------- 120,398,888 - Shake It Off 46,053,596 - Jump --------------- 87,365,770 - It's Like That 27,586,821 - Get Together -------- 51,242,956 - Don't Forget About Us 12,484,468 - Forbidden Love ----- 13,440,199 - Get Your Number All this globality, a 100 million countries at #1 and still not competing with re-current streaming with TEOM? On Sunday, TEOM will surpass 1 billion streams - Mariah's 3rd album to do so. (Madonna has none). Oh ... 1
Marianah Adkins Posted July 24 Posted July 24 I'd argue that Ray of Light is the bigger comeback for Madonna. She went from being discredited as a sex crazed pop queen into ultimate pop priestess status. It is basically the album that solidified Madonna as the Queen of Pop. COAFD merely strengthened it further. But lets be real, Mariah and most esp Tina were the comebacks of comebacks. 4
Donquizote Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Mariah, Madonna, Britney, and Gaga (ASIB) had the biggest comeback ever in pop history
P.O.P Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Can y'all stop overrating that "Kylie by numbers" Madonna album? 1 1
reymiu Posted July 24 Posted July 24 6 hours ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Chartmasters has her predicted at 12M units ww. I know it's not an official source but historically they have been proven to have correct estimations. According to Chartmasters Mimi - 12.9M https://chartmasters.org/mariah-carey-albums-and-songs-sales/ COADF - 13.7M https://chartmasters.org/cspc-madonna-popularity-analysis-2/ So COADF > Mimi in terms of sales. Both Hưng Up and WBT are legacy hits and they do decent on streaming, so I don't see Mimi overtaking COADF in the long run. However as a comeback, I have to agree that Mimi felt bigger. Glitter flopped too hard. Meanwhile American Life album still had a lot of buzz with the controversy and iconic MTV VMA performance 1
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