suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, MP3 said: It's Like That is barely a Top 15 worldwide The album sold around 10 millions, as many as COADF Shake It Off was a English-speaking countries success yeah, but worldwide it was not even a Top 40 Hung Up only fell to top the US charts, but elsewhere it was #1 It's Like That went top ten in Australia, Canada, Europe continent chart, Hungary, Italy, Scotland, UK (#4), and even charted on the main Japan singles chart. Shake It Off was not released as a single outside of English countries. Get Your Number was and went top ten in UK 1 1 1
UnusualBoy Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Quote It sold 3.6 million copies in its opening week, being the 13th fastest selling album ever. Second only behind Adele (25) for females. This is a lie tho, its numbers between US + UK + Canada are around 700k, where did the other almost 3 million came from Anyway, out of that, yes. It was THAT comeback, Hung Up & Sorry WERE huge and she was everywhere and the tour was basically the biggest for any females at the time. I'd argue that Mariah's comeback was also huge, although honestly that felt bigger in the states. 1
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, MP3 said: Take an atlas, they are all there I'll wait. Hint: you can't because they didn't exist. 1 2 2
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) There's a reason Emancipation is always referred to as the biggest music comeback. What was Madonna even coming back from? A small dip in sales? Absolutely nothing compared to Mariah's depths of hell mainstream laughingstock status Edited July 23 by suburbannature 4 2 2
Mamamo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Yes, only the queen of pop. People saying Emancipation when that album was extremely local from an outsider perspective, i love Mariah but lbr. Huge, but local huge. 6 2
Kimi Posted July 23 Posted July 23 it's like Believe - 20.1M CODAF - 13.6M Mimi - 12.8M not even close
Skestina Posted July 23 Posted July 23 12 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: The Emancipation of Mimi's lead single was literally the biggest song of the 2000s decade. The album sold over 12m copies globally. Confessions On A Dancefloor is estimated at 10M... Emancipation also had more succesful singles than COADF (Don't Forget About Us and Shake It Off were definitely bigger than Sorry and Get It Together) COADF was big globally but let's not diminish Mariah's monstrous success with The Emancipation of Mimi... simply because Madonna went #1 in Slovenia and Lithuania
Chris Posted July 23 Posted July 23 They were both like: "you ***s thought you saw the last of us, you were wrong". 6 1
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Kimi said: it's like Believe - 20.1M CODAF - 13.6M Mimi - 12.8M not even close Not Chartmasters Believe sold almost exactly the same as Emancipation and Confessions and her "comeback" was not from the lows of Mariah. Y'all clearly don't know what a comeback means. it's not simply a time gap in success or mild underperforming, it's a measurement of how far in totality. 2 1 1
Chris Posted July 23 Posted July 23 And here you pencil necked, skinny faggits tussling in here as usual.
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mamamo said: Yes, only the queen of pop. People saying Emancipation when that album was extremely local from an outsider perspective, i love Mariah but lbr. Huge, but local huge. And yet IFPI #2 and all singles went top ten across the world. Love fan fiction. And it was THAT enormous in US to have Song of the Decade in the world's largest music market. But sure, Hung Up had Slovenia so that must count more. Edited July 23 by suburbannature 2 1 1 1
Kimi Posted July 23 Posted July 23 1 minute ago, suburbannature said: Not Chartmasters Believe sold almost exactly the same as Emancipation and Confessions and her "comeback" was not from the lows of Mariah. Y'all clearly don't know what a comeback means. it's not simply a time gap in success or mild underperforming, it's a measurement of how far in totality. lows of mariah be serious it sold way more than mimi record and is more remembered too 1 2
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kimi said: lows of mariah be serious it sold way more than mimi record and is more remembered too It didn't sell way more and only someone with your consistently delusional takes would claim it's more remembered. All three albums sold around 10 million. and yeah, lows. The question was about comebacks. Edited July 23 by suburbannature 1
Abracadabra Posted July 23 Posted July 23 It was definitely an impressive comeback, but it hadn't really been that long since she had a big era with Music. American Life and it's political tone didn't effect her in the same way that it did with the Dixie Chicks, mostly the GP just didn't connect with the music. Madonna was still a huge act before Confessions era, AL was just a commercial lull. I would argue that Tina Turner's comeback in the 80's was even more impressive considering that she had been seen as commercially done for a long time and had to escape an abusive marriage in order to build herself back up again in her mid-40's as a solo star bigger than she ever had been before. And as a stan, not even being biased, but Britney's comeback with Circus was super impressive for the fact that merely months earlier she had probably the most well documented and extreme public "downfall" of any celebrity and most people had her out for the count. Not many people predicted that she would return to the top of pop music and do it so quickly (even though we know in hindsight that it was pretty much forced upon her). 2 2
Chris Posted July 23 Posted July 23 (edited) The only reason Madonna's success in the United States was minimal is because of the ageism she faced at that time (and still does to this day) and Hung Up was not really played on the radio like that. You have to consider age here as well. Mariah Carey was only in her mid 30s and she had all the radio support in the world with WBT (One of my favorite songs ever) and other singles from TEOM. Then unfortunately, like Madonna she faced the same ageism as she got older when it came to radio play. Her last shining moment was Touch My Body (and maybe Obsessed) and Madonna only had success with 4 Minutes because JT was included on the song. Both ladies deserve better. Edited July 23 by Chris 6
Kimi Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, suburbannature said: It didn't sell way more and only someone with your consistently delusional takes would claim it's more remembered. All three albums sold around 10 million. and yeah, lows. The question was about comebacks. believe sold over 20M album units not around 10M, you just straight up lie. 2
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Kimi said: believe sold over 20M album units not around 10M, you just straight up lie. girl, the LIE. Believe sold literally half of that and I can't believe you think Chartmasters' methodology represents album equivalent units. Open the schools. 1
Alongoria13 Posted July 23 Posted July 23 ? Madonna never left, she had the highest grossing tour of 2004 please 6 1
Kimi Posted July 23 Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, suburbannature said: girl, the LIE. Believe sold literally half of that and I can't believe you think Chartmasters' methodology represents album equivalent units. Open the schools. we use chartmasters as they proved time and time again their data adds up with offical numbers and they are not bias towards anyone. yes they represent album units. you can cry all you want but it wont change the fact that cher had way bigger comeback. believe has more spotify daily streams and overall streams than we belong together despite being single from 90s.
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Kimi said: we use chartmasters as they proved time and time again their data adds up with offical numbers and they are not bias towards anyone. yes they represent album units. you can cry all you want but it wont change the fact that cher had way bigger comeback. believe has more spotify daily streams and overall streams than we belong together despite being single from 90s. We Belong Together literally had 500k daily streams until it dropped some a few weeks ago. It has more for the year thus far and has more Youtube daily streams. And again, the album did not do anything close to 20 million album equivalent units. It's around 10 million and I can't believe you're just straight-up lying as if no one will notice. 1
Kimi Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, suburbannature said: We Belong Together literally had 500k daily streams until it dropped some a few weeks ago. It has more for the year thus far and has more Youtube daily streams. And again, the album did not do anything close to 20 million album equivalent units. It's around 10 million and I can't believe you're just straight-up lying as if no one will notice. youre one strange person im using a source thats being used by everyone here and it says believe did over 20M while Mimi did 12.8M, email chartmasters i guess?
suburbannature Posted July 23 Posted July 23 Just now, Kimi said: youre one strange person im using a source thats being used by everyone here and it says believe did over 20M while Mimi did 12.8M, email chartmasters i guess? Chartmasters' methodology is something entirely unique from album equivalent units and he took millions of Believe sales (approx 5 million) from separate greatest hits sales for Cher. And he's continually proven to be inaccurate and has admitted on his own site to guesstimating with a margin of error in the millions. The way you're using a source that you don't even understand?? 1 1
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