Sergi91 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 The collabs are carrying the compilation album 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorelei Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Shakira's recent spotify Playlist is carried by the Karol collab and that diss track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteboyzay Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Because its a Woman's World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
period sis Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 11 hours ago, terrijoe said: why arent beyonce's collabs carrying her? Why is this a question? Maybe because she was actually able to get a solo hit and didn't need collabs to help her out? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 14 hours ago, period sis said: Shakira's album is like 99% collabs . 4/17 tracks being solo. 9 songs being droplet singles, some of which appeared on other people's albums first that she needed to attach to hers, otherwise no one would listen. When we remove those and only discuss the new songs that were released with the album - it barely scraps 200m total. No they don't, because her album wasn't spammed with collabs like Shakira's is. I don't even care for Karol G like that but her album went #1, still does 7m daily, and is still charting on Billboard. Shakira's album left after week 5. No one of her collaborators on the album is bigger than herself. Shakira carried the singles. Again, Shakira gave Bizarrap and Karol G their first and ONLY top 10 in the US & 1st charting in the UK. If Shakira's album was released last year, it would have stayed on chart for a long period of time like Karol G's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 50 minutes ago, period sis said: Why is this a question? Maybe because she was actually able to get a solo hit and didn't need collabs to help her out? Sadly those songs did not last long. Shakira likes giving other latin artists a hand. Her record label said it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefertiti0 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 38 minutes ago, shakeyourbombom said: Shakira likes giving other latin artists a hand. Her record label said it. She doesn't help them, they help her. last time when she released solo single (Don't Wait Up) it flopped into oblivion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charot Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) One has actual numbers and impact in the real world while the other relies on PR/propaganda which makes her bigger than she actually is. Edited July 25 by charot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nefertiti0 said: She doesn't help them, they help her. last time when she released solo single (Don't Wait Up) it flopped into oblivion. Delusional. Shakira has transformed herself to a streaming force after El Dorado. Not just her new singles, her classics were also doing great on streaming platforms. No one knew Maluma, Karol G and Bizarrap before their collaborations with Shakira outside of Spanish speaking countries. And don't act like these artists did not do collaborations to boost their fame. Her last solo single was Acrostico not Don't Wait Up. It peaked at 9 on Spotify Global Top 200. Edited July 25 by shakeyourbombom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ebert Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 I love them both and I hate people are comparing two legends. CC was such a risk, most of her fans are not into country music. Personally, I tried to listen to it continuously but I lost interest. It's not that is bad or superior, it's just not my (and a lot of people) genre. Shakira released a commercial album aiming to charts and she got what she wanted. I feel like it's one of her worst albums honestly, not the Shakira that I like but due to her commercial sound people like it. CC was made for the US, country is not global. LMYNL sounds a lot here in Latin America and the sound of it is commercial so global. Both are legends and successful 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefertiti0 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, shakeyourbombom said: Delusional. Shakira has transformed herself to a streaming force after El Dorado. Not just her new singles, her classics were also doing great on streaming platforms. No one knew Maluma, Karol G and Bizarrap before their collaborations with Shakira outside of Spanish speaking countries. And don't act like these artists did not do collaborations to boost their fame. Her last solo single was Acrostico not Don't Wait Up. It peaked at 9 on Spotify Global Top 200. people only streamed her music thanks to Pique drama. Te Felicito left Global Spotify, but returned and began to rise after cheating rumors. when she dropped her album no one was interested in it anymore. she's not streaming force and her first day streams showed this: Edited July 25 by Nefertiti0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: people only streamed her music thanks to Pique drama. Te Felicito left Global Spotify, but returned and began to rise after cheating rumors. when she dropped her album no one was interested in it anymore. she's not streaming force and her first day streams showed this: That's because people are interested in Shakira. It goes the same with why Lemonade was successful because Jay Z cheated. GIRL LIKE ME and Me Gusta were also doing decent numbers on Spotify. Te Felicito was already a hit before the Pique drama. JLo (and Xtina) did collabs with other popular latin artists and look at those numbers. They are tragic. Hips Don't Lie has been on the Spotify Global Top 200 for weeks already. Again, if Shakira released her album last year, it would chart way longer globally. The numbers are there and it shows. You want to diminish Shakira's power so bad but it won't succeed. She has been in the game since 90s and still on A Tier. Edited July 25 by shakeyourbombom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Coast Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Cause Shakira's album is listenable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakeyourbombom Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) Spotify Global Artists 200 Chart: Nov 16, 2022 Shakira: 36 Karol G: 41 Jan 4, 2023 (a week before BZRP Vol.53 dropped) Shakira: 44 Karol G: 49 Jan 10, 2023 (a day before BZRP Vol. 53 dropped) Shakira: 47 Karol G : 51 So "Shakira needs Karol G and Bizarrap" is debunked Edited July 25 by shakeyourbombom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
period sis Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said: She doesn't help them, they help her. last time when she released solo single (Don't Wait Up) it flopped into oblivion. Like... I feel im being gaslighted here Its not a coincidence that the lowest streamed tracks on the album are ironically the only solo ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuelve88 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said: She doesn't help them, they help her. last time when she released solo single (Don't Wait Up) it flopped into oblivion. The president of Sony Music Latin literally said that he uses Shakira to give his other artists a wider, more global reach. He called it a business partnership with Shakira. But what does he know? ATRL user @Nefertiti0 surely knows more about the Latin music industry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venice B Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Oh wow I didn't know CC streams were THAT bad... that album really is a no no. I still think it would've been better if she cut like half of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 7/25/2024 at 1:50 AM, VioletsandRoses said: Because the Beyoncé collabs are album tracks not singles? Only the Miley song is a single. Common sense, use your brain you should apply your own advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-V-XYZ Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Both albums flopped. This thread's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-V-XYZ Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 18 hours ago, Nefertiti0 said: She doesn't help them, they help her. last time when she released solo single (Don't Wait Up) it flopped into oblivion. Shakira hasn't had a solo hit in nearly 20 years lmao. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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