GhostBox Posted yesterday at 12:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:35 AM (edited) 6 minutes ago, byzantium said: Play around with an electoral college map. Whitmer would win Michigan. I'm from Wisconsin and feel confident she would win my state give how Tammy Baldwin is polling and likely PA too. if she wins those three states, it's very unlikely for a republican to be able to win. The Dem base (black women) would not be happy if we just threw to the side the first every black woman VP for Whitmer (who Iam a fan of)💀 again no talk is legitimate unless Harris is the first choice. If not. Everyone should stop wasting their time Edited yesterday at 12:35 AM by GhostBox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:43 AM 5 minutes ago, GhostBox said: The Dem base (black women) would not be happy if we just threw to the side the first every black woman VP for Whitmer (who Iam a fan of)💀 again no talk is legitimate unless Harris is the first choice. If not. Everyone should stop wasting their time I'm well aware that the democrats would rather loose to Trump than do something that might ruffle the feathers of the democratic establishment. I'm just staying what I think should be done to "protect American democracy". That said, I don't really know anyone (black, white, Latino, Asian, gay straight, young, old, etc) that would rather have Biden than Whitmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM people don't know how elections work… him dropping out will be a big mistake for democrats. he's the only person that can beat trump 1 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM 10 minutes ago, mig123 said: people don't know how elections work… him dropping out will be a big mistake for democrats. he's the only person that can beat trump Even his own polling doesn't show this AND polling in 2020 didn't show this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:05 AM 1 minute ago, Communion said: Even his own polling doesn't show this AND polling in 2020 didn't show this. explain in pop terms please 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston Martin Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM 5 minutes ago, shyboi said: explain in pop terms please Although Biden got a #1 debut back in 2020, he hasn't had a solo hit since. He's charting on par with his competition despite having much larger playlisting. The tour isn't getting good reviews either. And to top it all off, his record label is burying their heads in the sand to any of these problems despite the radio and streaming payola kicking into full gear. 1 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM (edited) 27 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: Although Biden got a #1 debut back in 2020, he hasn't had a solo hit since. He's charting on par with his competition despite having much larger playlisting. The tour isn't getting good reviews either. And to top it all off, his record label is burying their heads in the sand to any of these problems despite the radio and streaming payola kicking into full gear. now we are talking, suddenly everything makes sense, thank you legend Edited yesterday at 01:43 AM by shyboi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 01:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:34 AM (edited) 33 minutes ago, Communion said: Even his own polling doesn't show this AND polling in 2020 didn't show this. polls have never been right … look at hillary clinton she was suppose to win by a land slide according to polls ronald reagan was also criticized for his old age and not able to run the country … polls were also even that year …and guess what ? he won 49 states and the biggest land slide in american History! Biden has all the factors to win.. and if he fixes the problem in israel he will win by a land slide .. Edited yesterday at 01:37 AM by mig123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:38 AM 2 minutes ago, mig123 said: polls have never been right … look at hillary clinton she was suppose to win by a land slide according to polls Most polls in 2016 were largely within the MoE except for Wisconsin. Probability =/= margin of win. Clinton was never meant to win in a landslide and no poll showed such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 01:46 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:46 AM Journalists who don't want to lose access tell him that the polls and base are wrong. Aides and surrogates who are thinking of their careers tell him that the polls and base are wrong. Party leaders and members who fear retaliation tel him that the polls and base are wrong. His family who benefit from his continued political power tell him that the polls and base are wrong. How is this not Trumpian? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadiamendell Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM 3 minutes ago, Communion said: Journalists who don't want to lose access tell him that the polls and base are wrong. Aides and surrogates who are thinking of their careers tell him that the polls and base are wrong. Party leaders and members who fear retaliation tel him that the polls and base are wrong. His family who benefit from his continued political power tell him that the polls and base are wrong. How is this not Trumpian? Yikes. Not them blaming everyone and everything else except the person who is responsible. It's clear they're willing to watch the country go down in flames. I'm also curious what insider is leaking this information to the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 02:18 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:18 AM 38 minutes ago, Communion said: Most polls in 2016 were largely within the MoE except for Wisconsin. Probability =/= margin of win. Clinton was never meant to win in a landslide and no poll showed such. whatever you say he will not drop out…lol he will probably take cognitive test and have doctors speak on his cognitive health! mark my words plus trump will probably be in jail by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:24 AM 1 hour ago, mig123 said: people don't know how elections work… him dropping out will be a big mistake for democrats. he's the only person that can beat trump And what evidence do you have to support this claim, because right now it is looking like he might be the ONLY person who is capable of LOSING to trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM 5 minutes ago, mig123 said: whatever you say he will not drop out…lol he will probably take cognitive test and have doctors speak on his cognitive health! mark my words plus trump will probably be in jail by then On 2/29/2024 at 6:24 PM, mig123 said: You mean magas hate Biden ? Ordinary people in the center that don't care about politic, and most think that both President are old and unfit. Yes BOTH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 02:45 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 02:45 AM 50 minutes ago, nadiamendell said: Yikes. Not them blaming everyone and everything else except the person who is responsible. It's clear they're willing to watch the country go down in flames. I'm also curious what insider is leaking this information to the press. This Axios article @Espresso linked in the elections thread feels... damning: Apparently those in Team Biden are trying to throw Harris under the bus and claim her race makes her less electable to "moderate voters": Quote These allies privately think Harris would struggle to pull moderate and swing voters, and would enhance Trump's chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM 1 hour ago, Communion said: Most polls in 2016 were largely within the MoE except for Wisconsin. Probability =/= margin of win. Clinton was never meant to win in a landslide and no poll showed such. The polls in like 4 swing states right now are within the MOE as well. 🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted yesterday at 03:28 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 03:28 AM 22 minutes ago, GhostBox said: The polls in like 4 swing states right now are within the MOE as well. 🤷 I mean, literally yes, it's bad that Biden is doing as poorly as Clinton who ended up losing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM 1 hour ago, byzantium said: And what evidence do you have to support this claim, because right now it is looking like he might be the ONLY person who is capable of LOSING to trump. elections have never in the history of the usa been based on people opinions but instead about actions made by the incumbent president.. actions such as Economy growth economy failures military Action military failures social unrest and social issues right now the only action biden fail is military failure in israel. and this is where you have all the pro palestine people that won't vote for him ronald reagan was also heavily criticized for his old age and cognitive speeches where he wouldn't make any sense, he even said "hello washington DC" when he was in another city on a debate and he won by the biggest landslide in american history at the end of the day people are just voting because they hate trump…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teresaguidice Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM 2 hours ago, mig123 said: whatever you say he will not drop out…lol he will probably take cognitive test and have doctors speak on his cognitive health! mark my words plus trump will probably be in jail by then good luck booking that passing grade on a cognitive test that you speak of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted yesterday at 04:22 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:22 AM Just now, teresaguidice said: good luck booking that passing grade on a cognitive test that you speak of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:24 AM trump in the other hand had a failed economic scandals (impeachment) social unrest (black lives matter) bunch of woman right marches and military failures reason why he lost in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM 7 minutes ago, teresaguidice said: good luck booking that passing grade on a cognitive test that you speak of lol biden could end in a bed coma and if he's the nominee he will still win! his presidency hasn't had social unrest issues other that college kids protesting for 1 week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted yesterday at 04:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:58 AM 41 minutes ago, mig123 said: elections have never in the history of the usa been based on people opinions You might need to actually open up those history books and start reading before you make statement like this. Voters will often base who they vote for off opinions of that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mig123 Posted yesterday at 05:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:59 AM 59 minutes ago, byzantium said: You might need to actually open up those history books and start reading before you make statement like this. Voters will often base who they vote for off opinions of that person. give me an example ? elaborate please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo Posted yesterday at 10:16 PM Share Posted yesterday at 10:16 PM 21 hours ago, byzantium said: Play around with an electoral college map. Whitmer would win Michigan. I'm from Wisconsin and feel confident she would win my state give how Tammy Baldwin is polling and likely PA too. if she wins those three states, it's very unlikely for a republican to be able to win. If somehow Biden manages to survive and win this, I want her in 2028 hands down. She's made good strides in Michigan since the pandemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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