OnikaSlays Posted May 20 Posted May 20 4 hours ago, HarajukuPrincess said: Imma just say this… The man is THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!! Please get out and vote come November… Also, if you think Biden is pro-genocide… Trump will probably drop bombs like M.O.A.Bs on Palestine and not give two ***** about it. The only opinion that matters. 3
Jotham Posted May 20 Posted May 20 It's weird how Biden "stans" are the ones accused of "doing too much" on this website when I see threads weekly on this site of anti-Biden tweets and I hardly ever see any positive thread about him. 5 2
Communion Posted May 20 Posted May 20 29 minutes ago, Ryan said: and the decades of regression our country faces It would genuinely be easier to take these concerns as made in good faith - and not seen as a backdoor to defending right wing policy - if those who are Biden's most ardent supporters knew how to hold his administration accountable for when his policy objectively becomes materially no different than Trump's and were as actively critical of him as progressives have been over their own progressive candidates in the past. It becomes impossible to believe people are genuinely concerned with the immense regression that could happen due to Trump's push for fascism while either actively ignoring or defending the decades of regression Biden's admin is overseeing in the mistakes they have made in the last few months. Mistakes they have walked into making due to Biden's own personal vendettas and ideological constraints. There's no reality where one can be convinced that funding Israel is worth dismantling the pro-immigrant base of the party by proposing legislation that would go farther than Trump ever did, for example. 5 1
Earth Ripper Posted May 20 Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, Communion said: It would genuinely be easier to take these concerns as made in good faith - and not seen as a backdoor to defending right wing policy - if those who are Biden's most ardent supporters knew how to hold his administration accountable for when his policy objectively becomes materially no different than Trump's and were as actively critical of him as progressives have been over their own progressive candidates in the past. It becomes impossible to believe people are genuinely concerned with the immense regression that could happen due to Trump's push for fascism while either actively ignoring or defending the decades of regression Biden's admin is overseeing in the mistakes they have made in the last few months. 3 1
The7thStranger Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Biden actually has stans on here? I think some of those downvotes come from people who don't like "I'm not going to vote" and "Biden and Trump are the same" rhetoric. 3
Illuminati Posted May 20 Posted May 20 (edited) The OBH (pro Trump atrl) are doing too much and Israel is definitely counting on Trump getting elected From what I've seen nobody finds Biden that inspiring but anyone whose political involvement goes beyond wanting to see Biden take the L knows that Americans are mostly center-right and a leftie utopia at this point in time is impossible. A vote boycott won't change the fact that you will have to continue living with those people after the election and you're handing all of the power over to them The next democrat president, if there ever is one again, is gonna be even more useless after Trump puts even more of his people in permanent positions The celebration of seeing "genocide Joe" take his last tumble is gonna be short-lived Edited May 20 by Illuminati 4 1
Redstreak Posted May 20 Posted May 20 5 hours ago, Communion said: Sister, didn't you literally mock multiple users for being upset at Biden for attacking undocumented migrants in his state of the union a few weeks back and referring to them as "illegals"? You quite literally quoted multiple users who called out that moment as explicitly right wing and no different than Trumpian fascism and mocked people who were outraged. If people aren't allowed to be upset when Biden repeats rhetoric that is objectively right-wing, how is that not excusing his actions, whether it be his support for genocide or this weird hard right turn on immigration? It's genuinely insane that being upset over Biden using such hurtful slurs about groups of people like "illegals" is somehow met with gaslighting. I genuinely can't even remember Hillary using such harsh and demeaning language in 2016. Using such a slur is literally a ZTP violation on here yet users were defending the president of the United States for using it? Because he's a Dem? Where is the actual red line? At what point do people's humanity matter? Did I mock people? No. I might have said they were purposefully making a big deal out of a heated misspeak but I didn't mock people as if saying it just to say it isn't a big deal. Also for a group to say the democrats don't have any messaging besides haranguing over Trump, you guys… sure still love trying to litigate Clinton 💀 and I guess will get the answer to your last sentence over the next four years. Interesting time to really put our foot down over red lines given the alternative 1
Patient Zero Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Bu bu bu but Biden is funding Israel!!! As if another president wouldn't have done the same. How many past presidents were involved in a foreign wars where many innocent people got killed? Probably all of them. Biden is the lesser of two evils in this case. If I would live in USA I would definitely vote for him. Why would I vote for Trump and his MAGA movement? Have ya'll seen the majority of people who vote for Trump? My god. It's full of racists, misogynists, bigots and everything that's vile about humanity right now. And not voting is just as bad as voting for Trump. 6 1 1
Polgg48 Posted May 20 Posted May 20 i just know billie success got his skin crawl and throw tantrum / crying behind the desk. that's what happen when you dont have TALENT to back up ot: sometimes civic thread belongs to civic section, billie and sabrina smash atm who's need that puta in pop music board?
Onyxmage Posted May 20 Posted May 20 9 hours ago, Fleahive said: Because we are tired of you people acting like not voting is a better choice. There's a lot more at stake than the damn Palestine and Isarael war. Ive literally asked far left anti Biden voters about so many issues facing Americans and they LITERALLY word for word tell me that none of that matters. They are telling me that my needs and literal existence doesnt matter at all. How am I supposed to respond? 1
GraceRandolph Posted May 20 Posted May 20 58 minutes ago, Patient Zero said: Bu bu bu but Biden is funding Israel!!! As if another president wouldn't have done the same. How many past presidents were involved in a foreign wars where many innocent people got killed? Probably all of them. Biden is the lesser of two evils in this case. If I would live in USA I would definitely vote for him. Why would I vote for Trump and his MAGA movement? Have ya'll seen the majority of people who vote for Trump? My god. It's full of racists, misogynists, bigots and everything that's vile about humanity right now. And not voting is just as bad as voting for Trump. All this "but lesser of two evils!" talk only appeals to a very small number of people. Every president may have been supportive of Israel to varying degrees, but Biden is the face of the most unpopular foreign policy disaster in years. You have to build enthusiasm around a candidate, not just chide voters. 1
Armani? Posted May 20 Posted May 20 6 hours ago, Jotham said: It's weird how Biden "stans" are the ones accused of "doing too much" on this website when I see threads weekly on this site of anti-Biden tweets and I hardly ever see any positive thread about him. How many positive threads are there supposed to be really?
Earth Ripper Posted May 20 Posted May 20 As pointed out by some here, what is missing from this "lesser of two evils" discussion is the general political effect on the public. Does voting for Biden as the lesser evil include an after-effect of public and media complacency? Then it's worth at least considering that this evens out the scale of evil. The plan can't just be "vote for the lesser evil". That plan, to be viable, needs to include a powerful strategy and willingness to combat the corrupt two party system during Biden's continued presidency also. And we never ever hear anything about that plan. The time where your vote represented your political sensibility is truly ******* over. The focus should be wayyy more on what you'll do after you've voted. And that's where most people immediately lose interest. That's a problem. And it completely smashes the moral superiority game of the pro-Biden fam to embarrassing bits. Their "moral vote" is as superficial and careless as the people they pretend to oppose. 3
aesthetic bih Posted May 20 Posted May 20 He has STANS? That's crazy! But I can't judge 'em cuz I stan pop girls
GardenPanty Posted May 20 Posted May 20 I don't think anyone should be stanning politicians There is a lot at stake in the next election and Biden is clearly the lesser of the two evils. It's going to be Biden vs. Trump (vs. third party) again and there's nothing we can do about it
Batsy Armada Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Biden has my vote, without the slightest doubt, but that doesn't mean that he's free of critique. It's important to examine and critique politicians; they should never be blindly followed. The only way change will come about is if things are discussed and challenged, typically. 1 1
UnderratedVocalist Posted May 20 Posted May 20 19 hours ago, slimfem said: I hate Biden and have never supported him, but I don't want Project 2025 to happen, I can't live in a theocratic dictatorship. I don't think people understand what is at stake here, democracy and our lives, literally. This is literally what y'all said back in 2016. Fast forward to 2020-2024 and you still think Democracy and your life is at stake from Trump winning so you're voting Biden again? And I don't even like Trump. OT: How does Biden even have stans? Like, I get voting for him because you hate Trump. But stan... THAT? 1
Solarie Posted May 21 Posted May 21 lol let's be real no one stans politicians they are just trying to talk some reason to braindead liberals wanting to throw their vote We can all acknowledge that Biden is a poc, but the reality in which Trump becomes a president will be much much harsher and not just for the Americans, for the entire world.
UnderratedVocalist Posted May 21 Posted May 21 7 hours ago, Solarie said: lol let's be real no one stans politicians they are just trying to talk some reason to braindead liberals wanting to throw their vote We can all acknowledge that Biden is a poc, but the reality in which Trump becomes a president will be much much harsher and not just for the Americans, for the entire world. Name world events that happened during Trump's term compared to world events that have happened during Biden's term. Y'all either brainwashed to death or you have an obvious agenda to push, regardless of the consequences. It's very obvious
TrymeB Posted May 21 Posted May 21 (edited) You either stan democracy (the most successful one) or you stan Trump (the most corrupt self serving narcissist to ever be POTUS). No one stans Biden. We stan USA, a functioning democracy. Edited May 21 by TrymeB
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