charts discussion HDD: industry weighs in on Billie/Taylor

[Redstreak]

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Eilish has plenty of parti-hued LP offerings in her own online shop, though, in the words of one member of her camp, she doesn't "give two shits" about her first-frame chart standing. Eilish refused to drop a single ahead of the album release, emphasizing her focus on getting fans to listen to the whole work. The industry as a whole would very much like to see her bow in the top spot as a recognition of her artistry

Is this week about to be messy as hell? 
 

https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=341283&title=NEAR-TRUTHS%3A-VARIANTS

Edited May 17 by Redstreak

[byzantium]

May the best variants win. 

[YellowRibbon]

The industry hates Taylor, it's been known ever since the whole masters debacle 

 

It's not surprise that the only people in entertainment that aren't jealous of the DEMAND that she has are actors and actresses. Which are coincidentally the only ones to have attended The Eras Tour along with those musicians close to her 

[Squall]

I hope Billie gets it, she delivered

[selena_lavigne]

Just get Lunch to #1. 

[tost1]

@The Music Industry did you really say this?

[wish]

"The industry as a whole would very much like to see her bow in the top spot as a recognition of her artistry"

 

[Richie.Valdez]

15 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said:

The industry hates Taylor, it's been known ever since the whole masters debacle 

The eternal victim. 

 

[iamanearthling]

Taylor makes things so exciting doesn't she? 

She that *****!!!

[Feanor]

21 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said:

The industry hates Taylor

The same industry that gave her their most prestigious award for an unprecedented 4th time?

[YellowRibbon]

23 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said:

The eternal victim. 

 

Exactly! She's not perfect in the slightest but people up there are jealous af 

[The Music Industry]

49 minutes ago, tost1 said:

@The Music Industry did you really say this?

[LoveInStereo]

The way they're already planting seeds for "she doesn't care where she charts, music not the bling" bc they know this isn't gonna be the moment they want it to be so they have to spin a narrative that she's so alt & counterculture. Reminds me why I used to hate her. The way she tried so hard to look like she didn't care about her image but that was a contrived persona in itself. If you're trying that hard to control the story, you obviously care what people think, don't pretend you don't? Her brand is weird & makes no sense to me

[TheHanyo]

1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said:

The industry hates Taylor, it's been known ever since the whole masters debacle 

The industry loves her. It's her peers who don't like her because they don't respect her art.

[The Music Industry]

15 minutes ago, LoveInStereo said:

The way they're already planting seeds for "she doesn't care where she charts, music not the bling" bc they know this isn't gonna be the moment they want it to be so they have to spin a narrative that she's so alt & counterculture. Reminds me why I used to hate her. The way she tried so hard to look like she didn't care about her image but that was a contrived persona in itself. If you're trying that hard to control the story, you obviously care what people think, don't pretend you don't? Her brand is weird & makes no sense to me

"I don't care about numbers lolz" while still releasing 15 variants, merch bundles, luck-of-the-draw signed albums and paint-splashed CDs...

 

It's the hypocrisy and weird contradictions for me

 

 

Edited May 17 by The Music Industry

[JorgeM]

1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said:

The industry hates Taylor, it's been known ever since the whole masters debacle 

 

It's not surprise that the only people in entertainment that aren't jealous of the DEMAND that she has are actors and actresses. Which are coincidentally the only ones to have attended The Eras Tour along with those musicians close to her 

Well that's not true, you fall easily in beyhive propaganda. Many artists attend from older ones like Billy Joel, Shania Twain, Alannis Morriset, Alicia Keys, Paul Stanley (Kiss), Kevin Parker (Tame Impala), Keith Urban, Paula Abdul to more current ones like Shawn Mendes, Noah Kahan, Halsey, Lil Nas X, Camila Cabello, Jon Batiste, Machine Gun Kelly, St Vincent, members from Imagine Dragons…probably the ones who hate her are the ones who has tried to compete with her and fail like "mpg" or some big artists like Drake and some other jealous ******* 

Edited May 17 by JorgeM
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[wastedpotential]

4 minutes ago, JorgeM said:

Well that's not true, you fall easily in beyhive propaganda. Many artists attend from older ones like Billy Joel, Shania Twain, Alannis Morriset, Alicia Keys, Paul Stanley (Kiss), Kevin Parker (Tame Impala), Keith Urban, Paula Abdul to more current ones like Shawn Mendes, Noah Kahan, Halsey, Lil Nas X, Camila Cabello, Jon Batiste, Machine Gun Kelly, St Vincent, members from Imagine Dragons…probably the ones who hate her are the ones who has tried to compete with her and fail like "mpg" or some big artists like Drake and some other jealous ******* 

It's true that many artists like her, but there's not a record label or industry executive (aside from her own, and even then only because she makes them a lot of money) who like her, because she's too big and too much of a disruptor. The re-recordings were a big knock against standard practices a lot of people were perpetuating, making a lot of people look pretty bad. The fact that she sells more than basically every other pop star combined also doesn't help matters much. Taylor is generally on good terms with the talent side of the business, but she's burned a lot of bridges with those in management over the years. Hence why HDD can comfortably say "the industry wants Billie to win" because Billie isn't a gargantuan force they can't control like Taylor is. 

Edited May 17 by wastedpotential

[Vespertine]

The point of not dropping a lead single in the streaming era is to maximize first week streams of the album. She and her team care. 

[Maroonx]

lol so much drama over a #1

 

[Feanor]

1 hour ago, Redstreak said:

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in the words of one member of her camp, she doesn't "give two shits" about her first-frame chart standing.

 

It is obvious that she cares about it (and she has every right to).

 

[Cruel Summer]

All I can say is that I'm intrigued to see the first predictions for the week, presumably tomorrow. I can't remember a chart battle I've actually been interested in for ages.

[Lose My Breath]

1 hour ago, Richie.Valdez said:

The eternal victim. 

 

Right, it's exhausting

 

The industry that gives her AOTY over, and over, and over?  Yeah... sure

[JorgeM]

8 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

It's true that many artists like her, but there's not a record label or industry executive (aside from her own, and even then only because she makes them a lot of money) who like her, because she's too big and too much of a disruptor. The re-recordings were a big knock against standard practices a lot of people were perpetuating, making a lot of people look pretty bad. The fact that she sells more than basically every other pop star combined also doesn't help matters much. Taylor is generally on good terms with the talent side of the business, but she's burned a lot of bridges with those in management over the years. Hence why HDD can comfortably say "the industry wants Billie to win" because Billie isn't a gargantuan force they can't control like Taylor is. 

In that part I agree, even Republic and UMG who take advantage of her success fear her power 

[fridayteenage]

31 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

The point of not dropping a lead single in the streaming era is to maximize first week streams of the album. She and her team care. 

Yeah Taylor herself done the same for several albums so by their logic she doesn't care about charts

[Raspberries]

The obvious PR article