Sun Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 minute ago, Anthropocene said: I don't support Russia, but I also don't support encouraging a terror attack on anyone who does support Russia. You seem unable to say you don't endorse encouraging a terror attack on Jewish students which is troubling - you should probably have a sit down with yourself and take a step back away from ATRL! The fact he and those 4 other users are saying all of this with such an open chest and with no repercussions is truly disgusting. But then again - they refer to photos and videos of hundreds/thousands calling for the massacre of Jews as an argument and say "wELl thE MajOrITy thInK sO ToO". But god forbid you counter their arguments - you are a genocide supporter, mentally ill monster who shall be banned off this forum I used to wonder why ATRL was overwhelmingly filled with open antisemites when I used to lurk as a guest post 10/07 and only realized after joining that you will be warned and banned for saying anything otherwise. Which now makes sense why there's 120492 of these posts everyday with nothing being done to the same users - talk about propaganda and the elimination of free speech! 2 4
Headlock Posted April 22 Posted April 22 15 minutes ago, Communion said: You know, if you wanted to troll, you can't make the instances so closely between the very few posts you have. Showing up to a protest condemning Israel's killing of 30,000 Palestinians and calling for more Palestinians to be murdered by waving Israel's flag is only okay to people like you who view European society as inherently superior and advocate for the racial subjugation of others, as seen below. Again, you are a white supremacist. You advocate for an ethno-state and the eradication of the Palestinian people. People who support genocide should be made to feel afraid to express those views so openly. Every time. Every. single. time. The post histories of these users gives them away 4 1
Archetype Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) Hi I'm just going to post the actual quote from the WH in full: Quote "While every American has the right to peaceful protect, calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community are blatantly Antisemitic, unconscionable, and dangerous – they have absolutely no place on any college campus, or anywhere in the United States of America. And echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations, especially in the wake of the worst massacre committed against the Jewish people since the Holocaust, is despicable. We condemn these statements in the strongest terms." Okay so let's break this down without pissing our pants... Quote ...calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community are blatantly Antisemitic, unconscionable, and dangerous - they have absolutely no place on any college campus, or anywhere in the United States of America. I don't think anyone on this forum would disagree with that. To continue... Quote And echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations, especially in the wake of the worst massacre committed against the Jewish people since the Holocaust, is despicable. If anyone is echoing Hamas rhetoric, specifically in relation to: Quote calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students and the Jewish community Then... Quote We condemn these statements in the strongest terms." I do not see why this would be controversial. Just looking at the quote for what it is, it's fine. No matter how dumb, annoying, and attention-seeking some of the pro-Israel protesters may be, no one should be threatening anyone with violence. That goes for pro-Israel supporters and for pro-Palestine supporters. Real people are dying and we can not undo that. The constant off-topicness, theatrics by certain users, grand emotionally written essays, b*tchy short or dismissive retorts, ya'll are annoying as hell. Go on a walk and shut up for an hour. Edited April 22 by Archetype 3 2 1
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Anthropocene said: This reach. An ethno-state? You think everyone in Israel is white? Interesting. Again, I am not sure what kind of people attend a protest asking a college to stop investments in a nation currently committing a genocide and do so in support of the nation committing genocide. Edited April 22 by Communion
teresaguidice Posted April 22 Posted April 22 7 minutes ago, Archetype said: Hi I'm just going to post the actual quote from the WH in full: Okay so let's break this down without pissing our pants... I don't think anyone on this forum would disagree with that. To continue... If anyone is echoing Hamas rhetoric, specifically in relation to: Then... I do not see why this would be controversial. Just looking at the quote for what it is, it's fine. No matter how dumb, annoying, and attention-seeking some of the pro-Israel protesters may be, no one should be threatening anyone with violence. That goes for pro-Israel supporters and for pro-Palestine supporters. Real people are dying and we can not undo that. The constant off-topicness, theatrics by certain users, grand emotionally written essays, b*tchy short or dismissive retorts, ya'll are annoying as hell. Go on a walk and shut up for an hour. you obviously must realize it's not the literal quote in a vacuum, it's the context. it (intentionally, or at very best, incidentally) stokes the media-driven hysteria that jewish students and faculty are under attack and in immense danger at columbia and other college campuses by RaDicALizeD "hamasnik" terrorists taking over. it delegitimizes any pro-palestine protest anywhere as extremism. and it gives the colleges more cover to punish the protestors. of course, all without any acknowledgment about what is being protested of course. 6
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Archetype said: I do not see why this would be controversial. Because the White House's sources that there is a threat to the safety of Jewish students on the ground are clearly coming from Zionist agitators and forces who are quite literally lying about what is happening. Here is one of the main sources of the claims of violence occurring being accused of lying by head Jewish staff at Columbia's Jewish Life Center. This is why people "won't just condemn" actions when there is an open refusal to show evidence of what is alleged to occur. Of course "random Jewish students" shouldn't be harassed. It is objectively a lie to claim such happened though. Of course "stabbng someone in the eye" is horrific and wrong. Yet despite getting a WSJ Opinion piece out of it, the video evidence provided shows that such quite literally did not happen. Of course people are not going to be moved by alleged crimes like "Jewish students being told to go back to Poland" when actual video shows said students were pro-Israel counter protestors who show up and dance and sing songs about how they have a divine religious birth right to cleanse Israel of Paleatinians. Edited April 22 by Communion 4
SmittenCake Posted April 22 Posted April 22 2 hours ago, Sun said: Good to know the leftie ATRL expectation is for our home countries/governments to do nothing if we or our families get killed/kidnapped by terrorists and promised it will be done so over and over again until an entire religion of humanity is wiped out. Are you aware that the IDF killed Israeli hostages? 5
ClashAndBurn Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, SmittenCake said: Are you aware that the IDF killed Israeli hostages? Whenever you point out that the IDF adheres to the Hannibal Protocol, the Zionists' response is always to stick their fingers in their ears and go "LALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALA" Edited April 22 by ClashAndBurn
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 hours ago, Communion said: You mean *checks video again* counter-protestors who showed up to an anti-genocide protest with the literal flag of the nation accused of doing genocide? Why are Zionists trying to attend anti-genocide rallies with the flag and in support of the nation doing genocide? "Innocent students just walking through campus"...with a 10 foot Israeli flag? What would be the response to showing up to a pro-Ukraine protest with a Russian flag? Oh, look, the more video evidence emerges, the more the narratives of people being threatened fade away due to a lack of evidence. So the "random group of Jewish students yelled at to go back to Poland" becomes "the group of pro-Israel protestors waving the Israeli flag" which then becomes "the active group of pro-Israel counter-protestors who actively agitated Palestinian activists and who tried to get police to go after the pro-Palestine activists and who then only left because NYPD did nothing after finding their claims of being assaulted as baseless". 1
ClashAndBurn Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Jake Tapper's irresponsible reporting may result in people getting killed. Any corrections won't have as many views and won't be acknowledged by the President who leapt at the opportunity to denounce anti-war students whose support he is currently hemorrhaging as a result
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 22 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Jake Tapper's irresponsible reporting may result in people getting killed. Any corrections won't have as many views and won't be acknowledged by the President who leapt at the opportunity to denounce anti-war students whose support he is currently hemorrhaging as a result Zionists are already making faulty kill lists:
ClashAndBurn Posted April 22 Posted April 22 27 minutes ago, Communion said: Zionists are already making faulty kill lists: "As long as it intimidates them into not attacking MY PRESIDENT AND MVP anymore, I don't care 👏👏👏" -Biden supporters and the KHive, probably 📦
Karla Cabello Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) palestinians are semitic people too, is bombing them and killing them not antisemitic? Edited April 22 by Karla Cabello
Cyanide Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Does anyone else feel like they've gone insane? The constant gaslighting, lies, DARVO tactics? What is going on; what is this world we live in. Are we already in hell? 1
Aethereal Posted April 22 Posted April 22 10 hours ago, Sun said: Calling it for exactly what it is wonder how the ATRL girls will do backflips in their essays to say otherwise I am not demanding the total annihilation of the state of Israel just because the process of it will bring more problems than solve anything. But Israel should remove all the settlements/colonists from West Bank and East Jerusalem. However if I had a magical click to remove Israel and the Jewish state to be created in a more appropriate location, I would click it.
Sannie Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) They are half right, half wrong. Many of these far-left virtue signalers have decided that anyone who is Jewish is bad. They no longer segregate zionists from Jewish people. All who are Jews are Zionists to them. This is anti-semitism. And no matter how you try to spin it, calling for the murder and/or abolition of the entirety of Israel is anti-semitic. Just admit it if that is how you feel. Stop trying to hide behind self-righteousness. And unfortunately they are the loudest of the bunch so the ones who genuinely care about Palestinians and are not just there for social media points are being lumped in with these losers because the goods ones are afraid to stand up to the bad ones. 4 hours ago, Aethereal said: I am not demanding the total annihilation of the state of Israel just because the process of it will bring more problems than solve anything. But Israel should remove all the settlements/colonists from West Bank and East Jerusalem. However if I had a magical click to remove Israel and the Jewish state to be created in a more appropriate location, I would click it. This is a reasonable demand, but unfortunately a lot on the left would call you a Zionist for having this nuanced opinion. Edited April 22 by Sannie 1 1 1
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sannie said: This is a reasonable demand, but unfortunately a lot on the left would call you a Zionist for having this nuanced opinion. 80% of this thread's back and forth has been pro-Biden supporters and Zionists calling that very user's opinion - as expressed by the very protestors you're demeaning - as antisemitic. Edited April 22 by Communion 2 1
Daddy Posted April 22 Posted April 22 On 4/19/2024 at 5:24 PM, playboi said: i'll never understand the logic of protesting for or against a conflict that's happening on the opposite side of the globe do they go home at night feeling like they're changing things? because I feel like they're just bored and looking for things to pass the time but like... make an atrl account and stop bothering people/endangering yourself Girl it's about support and visibility. Those news and pictures and videos go around the globe. The alternative is to just... do nothing?
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 Zionists actively planning to harm Jewish students on campus.
Sannie Posted April 22 Posted April 22 So... they are just flat-out blocking people for being Jewish. How will the leftists spin this as anything other than anti-semitic? It is not even about Israel or Bibi's corruption anymore, it is hatred for Jews. 1 2
Gui Blackout Posted April 22 Posted April 22 18 hours ago, Moloko Plus said: this is antisemitic LOSER behavior no matter which way you try to twist it I'm sorry but how is this not a comedy sketch
Communion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 19 minutes ago, Sannie said: So... they are just flat-out blocking people for being Jewish. How will the leftists spin this as anything other than anti-semitic? It is not even about Israel or Bibi's corruption anymore, it is hatred for Jews. This is why leftists lose more and more sympathy for Joe Biden and his supporters, and why more and more become indifferent to the reality of him losing. Because his current failures - like framing Zionist counter-protestors as victims with legitimate greivanxes - causes his blind partisan supporters to recalibrate any views they claim to have any now hold any view that justifies Biden's actions. Which is how you have a user like this one, who claims leftists and Republicans are the same, now posting videos from literally a Republican operative whose precious tweets were debunked and who claims Pro-Israel counter-protestors being denied access to pro-Palestine protestors is "the targeting of Jewish students". Liberals co-signing Republicans because "Joe Biden needs to be right" sounds like an argument for why Biden isn't a lesser evil than Trump. 3 1 1
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