Raphy23 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 She's been replaced by Sabrina. I almost made the discussion thread yesterday but I got too busy. 2 1
Digitalism Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Pandora30012 said: You can only release the same song this many times before people get tired if it This comment is dumb because actually if she had released levitating part 2 it would be a hit.
Raphy23 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Dante Silva said: I accept that in being so close to the origins of Rn'B, America is way more sonically aligned to that genre and simply cannot relate to genre's that are more European in DNA. As a European (where Dua's sound is prevalent and mainstream), it is hard to read how disconnected and "Weird" the U.S. finds Dua's new music (as a European her sound is what works here and is exactly what I want to hear). I've come to the conclusion she is taking her influences as a European and trying to globalise them but America relentlessly gives pushback and simply cannot relate due to its own geographic closeness to the origins of contemporary Rn'B. America either wants Doja type pop, or Olivia's singer-songwriter Alt sound. Dance is OUT especially Edm.
Ms. Togekiss Posted April 18 Posted April 18 She'll be fine, but it just shows that her "hits" were manufactured by her label by shoving it down the GP's throat for months until it stuck (Stockholm syndrome). She's still very much faceless, especially to the American GP
mike_int Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Everyday same thread from some trolls here ... And yeah keep the thumbs down coming 1 2
Dialamba Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Why do I have to defend artists I don't even stan. Houdini is SOTY. Illusion is a summer bop, I know it will smash in the UK like one kiss 1
Dante Silva Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Raphy23 said: America either wants Doja type pop, or Olivia's singer-songwriter Alt sound. Dance is OUT especially Edm. Someone made this ⬇️ comment on another thread in response to my suggestion that a Doja feature on any RO era single would push the era to its maximum potential in the U.S. and whilst I don't follow Doja closely if these statistics are correct then is it not fair to say Doja is no longer considered to be as hot an artist as she once was? Which would suggest even her brand of pop music is on the way out. On 4/17/2024 at 1:42 PM, Nefertiti0 said: Doja's verse wouldn't do anything, she just had a song on the cover on TTH, it peaked at #113 on US Spotify, didn't chart on the Hot 100. Conversely, The U.S. appears to love the current Madison Beer single (more so than her previous direction). The current Madison Beer single "Make you Mine" is EDM, therefore it appears there is no clear pattern to explain why the U.S. is responding warmly to EDM from Madison Beer (yet not Dua). Edited April 18 by Dante Silva
shyboi Posted April 18 Posted April 18 in danger of becoming this decades defining popstars? yes, she is 3
shyboi Posted April 18 Posted April 18 30 minutes ago, Raphy23 said: She's been replaced by Sabrina. by WHEW??? 1 5
jomarr Posted April 18 Posted April 18 40 minutes ago, Robyn. said: Why are Dua's fans struggling so much to admit she's underperforming? The amount of gaslighting is crazy. Praising a top 50 position on Spotify as if she's not supposed to be one of the biggest streaming artists of the decade is a kii. No one's struggling to admit she's underperforming. Yes she IS underperforming. Is she flopping? No, not really. Her three recent singles are so far her biggest 24-hour day streams and that's just a testament of her star power growth in the past few years. And no one's praising the Top 50 placement of her new song. Have you been to the Illusion thread ? Her fans obviously are aware that the song is underperforming. With that said, making a hundred threads about Dua being "over" is just tired. Especially when people are questioning whether she was a MPG in the first place. Like what you said, she's one of the biggest streaming acts of all time. How can you be a B-Lister when you are one of the most consumed artists of the streaming era. And, you can't be faceless when you are one of the pioneering artists of Disco revival this decade, duly acknowledged by the industry and her peers. Future Nostalgia alone solidified her legacy venturing in the new decade. Whether or not she could sustain it is the question. But she is far from being in danger when her songs are still consumed at the millions daily. 3
Dolce Vita Posted April 18 Posted April 18 55 minutes ago, Robyn. said: Why are Dua's fans struggling so much to admit she's underperforming? The amount of gaslighting is crazy. Praising a top 50 position on Spotify as if she's not supposed to be one of the biggest streaming artists of the decade is a kii. like
wish Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I genuinely like every song released from Radical Optimism so far. The issue is they're a specific type of dance-pop that feels kinda dated, especially here in the US. Songs like Illusion could easily fit in the 2010s pop landscape, but not as much in 2024. Pop-rock, country, synthpop, and alt-pop are reigning supreme right now. Disco and house had a nice moment, but they seem to be on their way out. We needed something more fresh from Dua for her big follow-up to Future Nostalgia. 1
Abracadabra Posted April 18 Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Ethereal said: Outside of Europe, Dua Lipa isn't widely recognised as an artist and lacks a distinct identity. To become a mainstream pop figure, she needs to differentiate herself from artists like Bebe Rexha, Rita Ora, and Ava Max. Many people in the US wouldn't be able to identify her if asked. So, yes, she's in danger. So the GP members who bought tickets to her sold out US arena tour thought they were attending an Ava Max show? 1 1
blueberries Posted April 18 Posted April 18 yes, stan world desperately wants her to be a main pop girl but that wont happen no more
Orsay Posted April 18 Posted April 18 This era might be a flop for her but she kinda feels like the type of artist that won't worry too much about it and could bounce back with a later project easily. She'll probably never have another FN sized era but that's ok. And at least she got a solid global hit with Houdini even if it didn't make much noise in the US
Robyn. Posted April 19 Posted April 19 17 hours ago, jomarr said: No one's struggling to admit she's underperforming. Yes she IS underperforming. Is she flopping? No, not really. Her three recent singles are so far her biggest 24-hour day streams and that's just a testament of her star power growth in the past few years. And no one's praising the Top 50 placement of her new song. Have you been to the Illusion thread ? Her fans obviously are aware that the song is underperforming. With that said, making a hundred threads about Dua being "over" is just tired. Especially when people are questioning whether she was a MPG in the first place. Like what you said, she's one of the biggest streaming acts of all time. How can you be a B-Lister when you are one of the most consumed artists of the streaming era. And, you can't be faceless when you are one of the pioneering artists of Disco revival this decade, duly acknowledged by the industry and her peers. Future Nostalgia alone solidified her legacy venturing in the new decade. Whether or not she could sustain it is the question. But she is far from being in danger when her songs are still consumed at the millions daily. There's literally two persons in this very thread praising a top 50 placement on Spotify. Did you read the thread before quoting me? You said a bunch of stuff irrelevant to the thread, talking about Future Nostalgia's impact as if anyone has ever denied it. Future Nostalgia's success is exactly why this new era falls flat for Dua's standards, and everyone is calling it a flop. Like you said, Future Nostalgia was supposed to solidify her legacy, hence why it's even more surprising that this era is not matching the expectations after such success. You guys are acting like it's not likely to expect success after coming off a smash era, instead you're settling for lower placements and small victories as if this girl wasn't everywhere at some point. And since the creation of this board artists have been brought up when they underperform. It's not a new concept so it's normal that these things are being discussed.
futuresuperstar2023 Posted April 19 Posted April 19 (edited) Dua is not doing good single wise. This is an under-performance and Y'all all know it. I like Dua but come on! Dua needs to switch sounds and these singles are not delic like Edited April 19 by futuresuperstar2023
BloodLuster Posted April 21 Posted April 21 16 minutes ago, Iceland said: Some of the people here wish their fave had illusion numbers if you stan Bebe Rexha, Zara Larsson or Hailee Steinfeld maybe
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