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8 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

What's sad is that MANY of them truly are here for the numbers, instead of the quality of the output.  You can literally read post after post like that in the album thread, it's really strange.

 

I like a few songs from the album, but I was pretty let down.  I most certainly am not a swiftie, but I have enjoyed several of her albums (folklore, reputation, midnights even), but this wasn't it for me. 

 

Of course this will be hugely successful, even as mediocre as it is, which really speaks to the disadvantage so many other very talented artists have comparatively.  I wouldn't even be surprised if she wins AOTY again for this, which would be very disappointing.

 

 

Literally everyone is gagging over lyrical moments or production choices in the album thread, some of you want her to decline for the kiis so bad you've broken reality 💀

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6 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

While some fanbases meltdown daily with their fave's last album's constant freefall

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Thankfully I dont need to determine an albums quality!

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7 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

The thread being about quality but the comments being about sales.

That's the swifties for you

 

9 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

You can even see it in this thread. "She sells gazillions, so don't you DARE have an opinion on her music!!1!" :hoetenks: Anyone who dislikes this HAS to be a hater, it can't possibly be that... maybe they just don't like the album?

What? No one in the thread says that people can't have opinions on it :hoetenks:

 

But if you claim that swifties hate it, people will talk about numbers which shows that... swifties actually like it, stream it and buy it :hoetenks:

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10 minutes ago, period sis said:

Thankfully I dont need to determine an albums quality!

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Well yes. Numbers don't determine people's interest on the album, people's interest determine numbers. 

People don't tune for albums they don't like hence the freefall... 

 

Looking at this thread, logic is really not #that specific fanbase's strongest suit huh

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Just now, WildHeart said:

 

What? No one in the thread says that people can't have opinions on it :hoetenks:

 

But if you claim that swifties hate it, people will talk about numbers which shows that... swifties actually like it, stream it and but it :hoetenks:

The album is not even out. And a lot of swifties already bought it. There shouldn't be any conversation about quality related to sales until a month from now. Debut numbers won't mean anything since people are going to check it out either way.

Also a lot people think lover is her worst in comparison to the others and it still doing numbers because it has hits. So no sales won't mean anything in this thread.

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It is derivative but i can't blame her since her persona is boring and the music too. She has nothing to say. She has talent with words but the content is lacking. Also the production is 0 innovative for her.

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1 minute ago, Redstreak said:

Literally everyone is gagging over lyrical moments or production choices in the album thread, some of you want her to decline for the kiis so bad you've broken reality 💀

I could give af less if she declines, my ears hardly cross paths with her songs, and I most certainly don't post up in threads talking about her, I don't typically find her interesting.  My life will be unchanged if she flops.  I'd still listen to her music, if I thought it was good.  I still play Folklore, and occasionally Reputation (Dress is one of the best pop songs IMO), but I'm a casual listener, and to me, this album wasn't good outside of Florida, loml, and Who's Afraid. 

 

There ARE some good lyrical moments, but the album is bland, and the production is a CHOICE, but I would hardly say there are many "choices" as it's almost like one long drawn out song.  If any other big artist put this album out, it would be RIPPED to shreds in an instant.  Y'all are too worried about sales, and numbers. 

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1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said:

I could give af less if she declines, my ears hardly cross paths with her songs, and I most certainly don't post up in threads talking about her, I don't typically find her interesting.  My life will be unchanged if she flops.  I'd still listen to her music, if I thought it was good.  I still play Folklore, and occasionally Reputation (Dress is one of the best pop songs IMO), but I'm a casual listener, and to me, this album wasn't good outside of Florida, loml, and Who's Afraid. 

 

There ARE some good lyrical moments, but the album is bland, and the production is a CHOICE, but I would hardly say there are many "choices" as it's almost like one long drawn out song.  If any other big artist put this album out, it would be RIPPED to shreds in an instant.  Y'all are too worried about sales, and numbers. 

Well then go listen to those non bland albums?

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I think it's an interesting album where it's kinda an amalgamation of elements from Folklore, 1989, and Midnights, but it doesn't necessarily excel in any of the areas the way Folklore/1989 did, nor is it as tiktokable as Midnights (on first listen).
 

I found it pleasant though. 

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7 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

 

What? No one in the thread says that people can't have opinions on it :hoetenks:

 

But if you claim that swifties hate it, people will talk about numbers which shows that... swifties actually like it, stream it and buy it :hoetenks:

well according to my calculations…

 

regardless of the quality, swifties would engage in bot behvaior buying & streaming the project even if they know its mid. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Well then go listen to those non bland albums?

oh- 

 

dont talk to my brother like that? every artist declines (artistically or commercially). this just might be taylors moment bc the album is very plain jane.

 

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4 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

The album is not even out. And a lot of swifties already bought it. There shouldn't be any conversation about quality related to sales until a month from now. Debut numbers won't mean anything since people are going to check it out either way.

Also a lot people think lover is her worst in comparison to the others and it still doing numbers because it has hits. So no sales won't mean anything in this thread.

Well then it is safe to say that this won't chart more than 10 weeks in the top 10 since it will debut high thanks to curiosity sales/streams and swifties are panning it en masse

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this is NOT true. Maybe it was bad received by atrl swifties, but the majority of people I know loved this album. 

I didn't love it, but it's a good old taylor sound. She will be okay. 

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This album has re-confirmed to me that I will simply never understand the appeal of Taylor.

Halfway through I started completely zoning out. No melodies, no hooks... no interest. :rip:

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3 minutes ago, Devin said:

well according to my calculations…

 

regardless of the quality, swifties would engage in bot behvaior buying & streaming the project even if they know its mid. 

 

:hoetenks:

Thankfully calculations/math and hive don't have any correlation in the real world

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Just now, Strawberry Bubble said:

this is NOT true. Maybe it was bad received by atrl swifties, but the majority of people I know loved this album. 

I didn't love it, but it's a good old taylor sound. She will be okay. 

In fact, this leak has been WAY better received than midnights

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Are you crazy omg

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She needs to go back to the Folklore/Evermore quality but she is too obsessed with money and fame

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1 minute ago, Strawberry Bubble said:

In fact, this leak has been WAY better received than midnights

Agreed - I don't think people remember just how much the Midnights leak pulled early listeners apart. This is absolutely not on that level.

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I did just see a Swiftie saying they only liked 4 songs and Jack needs to go already. 

We'll see tomorrow 

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6 minutes ago, Devin said:

oh- 

 

dont talk to my brother like that? every artist declines (artistically or commercially). this just might be taylors moment bc the album is very plain jane.

 

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Yall been saying this since rep

 

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2 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

Well yes. Numbers don't determine people's interest on the album, people's interest determine numbers. 

People don't tune for albums they don't like hence the freefall... 

 

Looking at this thread, logic is really not #that specific fanbases' strongest suit huh

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Freefall being #2 weeks at #1 and predicted to do close to 100k third week, with another single perched in the top 10 since release, and that's all with that negligence and silence from said artist! 

 

Again, idgaf about numbers and what other people think as much as y'all clearly do. 

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Not surprised you're once again trying to derail the topic about Taylor by bringing up another artist when the topic isn't in Taylor's favor!!!!!

 

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6 minutes ago, WildHeart said:

Thankfully calculations/math and hive don't have any correlation in the real world

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what's that supposed to mean ? :doc:

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31 minutes ago, Virgos Groove said:

Anyone who dislikes this HAS to be a hater, it can't possibly be that... maybe they just don't like the album?

Exactly what the Beyhive told me when I stated that I didn't enjoy CC btw. :psyduck: All fanbases are trash!

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4 minutes ago, period sis said:

Freefall being #2 weeks at #1 and predicted to do close to 100k third week, with another single perched in the top 10 since release, and that's all with that negligence and silence from said artist! 

 

Again, idgaf about numbers and what other people think as much as y'all clearly do. 

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Not surprised you're once again trying to derail the topic about Taylor by bringing up another artist when the topic isn't in Taylor's favor!!!!!

 

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Didn't mention any album or artist but not surprised to see where your mind goes when you hear the word freefall. Can anyone blame you after the last 10 years 

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