charts discussion HDD: 'TORTURED POETS' to debut at #1 with 2.60M units | 1.92M pure sales & 671k SEA

[anti-bitch]

6 hours ago, Strawberry Bubble said:

Why is it that everyone becomes an Adele fan as soon as Taylor releases something new?

It's not about being her fan but trying to be objective. Some of the more hawkish swifties could also help by not trying to mock Adele like they have ever since 2021

[Raspberries]

6 hours ago, Strawberry Bubble said:

Why is it that everyone becomes an Adele fan as soon as Taylor releases something new?

Because it's ATRL hiding behind the only female artist who can even hold a candle to Taylor the last 15 years

[anti-bitch]

one more argument against the "itunes sales because of no streaming" theory

by @Kitboga @enchanted0 

is that 30 sold 205k downloads first week in 2021 while being available on all streaming services. so it's not a stretch to think that 25 could have sold 1M+ itunes sales in 2015 first week even if it was on spotify right away considering itunes had lot more activity back then and spotify had lot less. And Hello sold 1M stand alone downloads in first week while being on spotify and youtube etc.

 

and someone said something about "gross," and yeah, vinyls deffo win in that regard. But if you think about profit only, it's possible to make nice amount of it from $10.99 digital album sales because there's no production or shipping costs involved

 

here's more details about 25's first week. It was 51% physical and 49% digital sales actually https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/adele-25-bonkers-facts-25s-mindblowing-first-week/

 

and one more time, 25 sold 7.13 million in pure sales by December 24, 2015 (in one month after release!!!) That's the biggest story https://www.billboard.com/pro/adele-25-billboard-200-fifth-week-sells-another-million/

[Asscatchem]

1million behind Adele. guess she doesnt have the biggest peak of all time

[FailSafe]

4 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

one more argument against the "itunes sales because of no streaming" theory

by @Kitboga @enchanted0 

is that 30 sold 205k downloads first week in 2021 while being available on all streaming services. so it's not a stretch to think that 25 could have sold 1M+ itunes sales in 2015 first week even if it was on spotify right away considering itunes had lot more activity back then and spotify had lot less. And Hello sold 1M stand alone downloads in first week while being on spotify and youtube etc.

 

and someone said something about "gross," and yeah, vinyls deffo win in that regard. But if you think about profit only, it's possible to make nice amount of it from $10.99 digital album sales because there's no production or shipping costs involved

 

here's more details about 25's first week. It was 51% physical and 49% digital sales actually https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/adele-25-bonkers-facts-25s-mindblowing-first-week/

 

and one more time, 25 sold 7.13 million in pure sales by December 24, 2015 (in one month after release!!!) That's the biggest story https://www.billboard.com/pro/adele-25-billboard-200-fifth-week-sells-another-million/

Didn't 25 sell like another 1 million copies with its second week? Adele was gargantuan. 21+25 remains the biggest 1-2 punch of the 21st century. Of course what Taylor is doing right now is amazing as well.

Edited April 23 by FailSafe

[Khal]

Funny that there's a user that I don't think I see around the forum, but they show up like some activated sleeper cell agent anytime Adele's sales relative to Taylor is being discussed

Edited April 23 by Khal

[anti-bitch]

17 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

Because it's ATRL hiding behind the only female artist who can even hold a candle to Taylor the last 15 years

Or some people actually like Adele, and not everything is some conspiracy against Taylor??

 

it's just that some swifties came in here all boastful about breaking the record, but now that it looks like it's not happening they are trying to invalidate the record

[anti-bitch]

3 minutes ago, FailSafe said:

Didn't 25 sell like another 1 million copies with its second week? Adele was gargantuan. 21+25 remains the biggest 1-2 punch of the 21st century. Of course what Taylor is doing right now is amazing as well.

Yeah, 1M+ in three seperate weeks actually, as you see in the last link of my post you quoted. Probably only Thriller also sold more than 1M in several weeks back in the day

[Mr. Duff]

Can we kindly stop with the Adele discussion? 25 was a behemoth, and will probably not be done again, ever. CLOSE THE DISCUSSION.

 

Now let's discuss TTPD and how it's massive debut week is amazing, and how Taylor's doing this so impressively with a streak of albums.

[Squall]

You all are so annoying with 25  it won't beat it and it's FINE

[Raspberries]

36 minutes ago, anti-***** said:

Or some people actually like Adele, and not everything is some conspiracy against Taylor??

 

it's just that some swifties came in here all boastful about breaking the record, but now that it looks like it's not happening they are trying to invalidate the record

No, a majority is other fan bases hiding. We saw it during Red TV/30 release  Then they were silent about Adele when Taylor managed to debut with 1.5M+ twice in a year. And now that she's likely not going to do 3.5M+ they're back to hiding behind Adele

[tshwark]

That's the problem with propaganda, you get all hyped up, talk about The Beatles and stuff and then the hard cold truth comes, damm Adele is definitely THE PEAK.

Edited April 23 by tshwark

[Negiiiii]

Taylor it truly truly a monster.

 

Her career and the team's work behind her has truly been out of this world! Congratulations! 

[SMGOwnsTheNight]

1 minute ago, tshwark said:

That's the problem with propaganda, you get all hyped up, talk about The Beatles and stuff and then the hard cold truth, damm Adele is definitely THE PEAK.

No modern artist will ever touch this Taylor peak, first week numbers record for one album or not 

[so_fetch]

40 minutes ago, SMGOwnsTheNight said:

No modern artist will ever touch this Taylor peak, first week numbers record for one album or not 

What a troll. You can declare this as an amazing achievement for Taylor but she is not even close to Adele's peak. 

[SMGOwnsTheNight]

Just now, so_fetch said:

What a troll. You can declare this as an amazing achievement for Taylor but she is not even close to Adele's peak. 

I think Adele's achievement is colossal and will never be touched but what I meant by Taylor's "peak" is her huge numbers the last 4 years despite consistent releases. Taylor won't touch Adele's one week record

[Ichinaru19]

2 hours ago, anti-***** said:

one more argument against the "itunes sales because of no streaming" theory

by @Kitboga @enchanted0 

is that 30 sold 205k downloads first week in 2021 while being available on all streaming services. so it's not a stretch to think that 25 could have sold 1M+ itunes sales in 2015 first week even if it was on spotify right away considering itunes had lot more activity back then and spotify had lot less. And Hello sold 1M stand alone downloads in first week while being on spotify and youtube etc.

 

and someone said something about "gross," and yeah, vinyls deffo win in that regard. But if you think about profit only, it's possible to make nice amount of it from $10.99 digital album sales because there's no production or shipping costs involved

 

here's more details about 25's first week. It was 51% physical and 49% digital sales actually https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/adele-25-bonkers-facts-25s-mindblowing-first-week/

 

and one more time, 25 sold 7.13 million in pure sales by December 24, 2015 (in one month after release!!!) That's the biggest story https://www.billboard.com/pro/adele-25-billboard-200-fifth-week-sells-another-million/

Coming with the tea The fact that digital albums were 10 dollars and you have people here trying to discredit that is ridiculous. Digital albums sales are close to the equivalent of a physical CD sale

[Squall]

1 hour ago, tshwark said:

That's the problem with propaganda, you get all hyped up, talk about The Beatles and stuff and then the hard cold truth comes, damm Adele is definitely THE PEAK.

So it's either selling 3.5M first week to be able to be compared to The Beatles or nothing? What a stupid take  

Edited April 23 by Squall

[family.guy123]

Adele really does something to y'all huh. What other album are we supposed to discuss? No strings attached? She's already surpassed that one. There's literally no other album that belongs in the conversation except for 25. 

Me: Taylor Swift is a mastermind and will do whatever it takes to break the record. Just wait and see for Monday.

 

Y'all: STOP HIDING BEHIND ADELE

 

 

[ForgottenSoul]

2 hours ago, tshwark said:

That's the problem with propaganda, you get all hyped up, talk about The Beatles and stuff and then the hard cold truth comes, damm Adele is definitely THE PEAK.

First week sales are not everything love. 

 

I love Adele but can you guys stop using her its ******* cringe. 

Edited April 23 by ForgottenSoul

[FolkLover1989]

The 25 stans are here omg

Only that were left 

[Gaia]

23 minutes ago, Squall said:

So it's either selling 3.5M first week to be able to be compared to The Beatles or nothing? What a stupid take  

No but if you're going to act like she has the biggest peak ever just because Taylor Nations pays publications to say so, she should easily be able to have the biggest peak of album sales of all time especially considering Adele has no hardcore fanbase and depends on the GP/casual listeners. 
 

You can tell how much it bothers Swifties who calls her "the music industry" and now parading around about having the biggest peak of all time or at least since the Beatles, that she doesn't have this record despite the gimmicks she pulls. Otherwise there is 0 reason to belittle Adele like her fans constantly do.

 

and if you know everyone is just "hiding behind Adele" then you wouldn't attack Adele. But nope, every thread about album sales I've been in I've see. Swifties belittling Adele

Edited April 23 by Gaia

[family.guy123]

My prediction is that TP will open up with 43.000x the amount of ABBA's Voyage debut. Better?

Edited April 23 by family.guy123

[Squall]

7 minutes ago, Gaia said:

No but if you're going to act like she has the biggest peak ever just because Taylor Nations pays publications to say so, she should easily be able to have the biggest peak of album sales of all time especially considering Adele has no hardcore fanbase and depends on the GP/casual listeners. 
 

You can tell how much it bothers Swifties who calls her "the music industry" and now parading around about having the biggest peak of all time or at least since the Beatles, that she doesn't have this record despite the gimmicks she pulls. Otherwise there is 0 reason to belittle Adele like her fans constantly do

First of all, Adele doesn't even have the biggest peak of all-time as it's only the Nielsen era that's being discussed here. Second, no one is talking about first week numbers when talking about The Beatles, they are (commercially) mentioned for their gigantic numbers and longevity, I am not sure how this parallel is not compatible with Taylor's career just because a first week number. Now, call me when a current artist is able to pull 1M+ at least once and take off your OTH glasses for once.

 

NB: Funny how you mention TN paying publications… if so, did they run out of money when they could have avoided bad reviews? Make it make sense  

Edited April 23 by Squall

[ForgottenSoul]

16 minutes ago, Gaia said:

No but if you're going to act like she has the biggest peak ever just because Taylor Nations pays publications to say so, she should easily be able to have the biggest peak of album sales of all time especially considering Adele has no hardcore fanbase and depends on the GP/casual listeners. 
 

You can tell how much it bothers Swifties who calls her "the music industry" and now parading around about having the biggest peak of all time or at least since the Beatles, that she doesn't have this record despite the gimmicks she pulls. Otherwise there is 0 reason to belittle Adele like her fans constantly do.

 

and if you know everyone is just "hiding behind Adele" then you wouldn't attack Adele. But nope, every thread about album sales I've been in I've see. Swifties belittling Adele

Based on that stupid argument is 25 the biggest ever? Clearly not

 

Also, The beatles are discussed due to longevity and big numbers among other things.. 

 

 

 

Edited April 23 by ForgottenSoul