movie Scream 7 | Neve Campbell | Kevin Williamson to direct

[Shelter]

16 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

I agree, she got better near the end but she was easily one of the weakest links. I wish she didn't sign on if she was gonna give us that. 

I think her role sucked too though, and the wig.  I think Scream 6 is one of the weakest, it's just above Scream 3. 

[Big Bad Wolf]

They had to tank their franchise into the ground before they brought Neve back on? Pitiful. 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

3 minutes ago, Shelter said:

I think her role sucked too though, and the wig.  I think Scream 6 is one of the weakest, it's just above Scream 3. 

3 at least has solid direction, a fun tone, Sidney's best arc, PARKER POSEY, and is devoid of glaring plot-holes. 6 is cheaply directed and filled to the brim with logistical errors and a grating style over substance vibe that showcases Radio Silence had no respect for what Wes and Kevin built. It's actually quite disgusting to see how they rushed this franchise. Thank god they're no longer directing   

[GraceRandolph]

1 hour ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

3 at least has solid direction, a fun tone, Sidney's best arc, PARKER POSEY, and is devoid of glaring plot-holes. 6 is cheaply directed and filled to the brim with logistical errors and a grating style over substance vibe that showcases Radio Silence had no respect for what Wes and Kevin built. It's actually quite disgusting to see how they rushed this franchise. Thank god they're no longer directing  

VI is definitely not without its flaws, but at least they tried something different and moved beyond Sidney and Woodsboro finally. Radio Silence aren't great directors, but I'd trust them any day of the week over the Teaching Ms. Tingle director. Really this franchise needs a Ti West or someone like that at the helm, as well as some fresh younger actors.

[bad guy]

The only one who destroyed the franchise is Spyglass by scrapping Sam/Tara's arc over a ceasefire post

 

Scream 6 revitalized the franchise and not only was the most successful sequel but also grew the franchise's popularity and was a pop culture moment in ways no sequel after 2 was able to be. They completely shot themselves in the foot and booking Neve back is because they're scrambling at the PR nightmare they created. Everyone has moved on from her story because it literally ended with 5. I'm sure the fans who are stuck in nostalgia will love another Sidney movie where she fights off another killer with nothing happening to her, but the generation introduced to the franchise with 5-6 will not and the box office will reflect that. And if they discard 5-6 as "fan fiction" then that's even more disrespectful to the franchise because Wes made it clear that Scream was always story driven and would never go into the Halloween/F13 route of discarding past films. That would ruin the validity of the franchise, but clearly Spyglass doesn't care much.

Edited August 27 by bad guy

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

55 minutes ago, bad guy said:

Scream 6 revitalized the franchise and not only was the most successful sequel but also grew the franchise's popularity and was a pop culture moment in ways no sequel after 2 was able to be.

And it also:

 

1. had absolutely zero stakes for any of the characters, going as far to have five fake-out deaths in a row which was outrageous. Only one substantial person died (Anika) and the rest of the kills were extras and characters we knew nothing about like this was a Friday The 13th sequel, showcasing that the writers don't know what makes this franchise Scream. 

 

2. proved that the writers are the dumbest people to ever be given the privilege of writing a script. How on earth are we supposed to believe that no one knew who Richie's family was? They would've been doxxed after his murder spree. How was Bailey take the case of a Ghostface spree being Richie's father? How did Quinn find Sam and Tara on an anonymous roommate ad? How did Bailey expect to replace Quinn's body with a "fresh one" and expect her to be able to move on with her life given that she's "dead"? 

 

3. showed that the writers don't understand how wounds work. Tara can roam around the city after getting stabbed in the back and having a knife impale her stomach, but a simple stab to the shoulder has Mindy put on a stretcher in the previous film?

 

4. went against the possibility to do something actually new and interesting. The opening was promising knowing that they teased a potential plot line where we'd be following a Ghostface whose identity we know throughout the film or a vigilante Ghostface who goes after members of the Stab cult who prey on the innocent, but instead chickened out and gave us an overtly long Scream 2 rehash. They pussied out of doing "something different" like the trailer promised and that might be the biggest flaw of them all.

 

5. failed to develop any of the returning characters or make them any interesting. Sam barely grew between films and only got dumber (why would she leave Bailey with his gun after he got knocked out and refuse to help a bleeding out Kirby while deeming her Ghostface fetish to be more important?), Mindy got more annoying with that unbearable rules scene and lack of tact and sensitivity for her friends, Chad stayed the same, and after spending two movies with Tara the only thing I can tell you is that she's Sam's asthmatic sister and the two butt heard at points. Not to mention they ruined Kirby by making her incompetent at her job (re: telling Sam and Tara they couldn't leave the city after the bodega attack and not making sure who Richie's family was) and went all Groundhog Day with Gale by squashing all the growth she showed in five and reverting her back to the Gale from the first film.

 

VI also wasn't the franchise's most successful sequel. Adjust for inflation and both 2 and 3 decimate VI at the box office. VI may have done well but all the flaws have gotten even more apparent since release and it will age like milk. It is the franchise's equivalent of Halloween: Resurrection and Freddy's Dead. 

Edited August 27 by YourFavoriteWeapon

[GraceRandolph]

2 hours ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

It is the franchise's equivalent of Halloween: Resurrection and Freddy's Dead. 

This is so hyperbolic and ridiculous. Scream VI has a positive CinemaScore, positive audience scores, a higher box office than 4 or 5, and is well regarded compared to the vast majority of sixth entries in horror movies. Yes, it had writing problems, but so did all of the previous sequels. The idea that the characters needed to be killed off is also so contradictory considering the trio survived Scream 1, 2, 3, and 4. Scream 3 and 4 had zero important characters killed off. Radio Silence already killed off Dewey in 5 so they probably didn't want to get rid of any other long-running characters in 6. Please quickly tell me how Scream 7 is doing something "new and different" by focusing on Ghostface vs. Sidney for the fifth time?

[ctlp27]

5 and 6 are a fun ride to watch as Ghostface is indeed a menacing and violent presence. But I don't see a lot of replay value like the OGs because the plotholes are crazy and nonsensical (and we're talking about Scream franchise so that says a lot). Also JO and MB are not great leads (or to put it simply, not strong enough characters to have been positioned as franchise lead like Sidney and Gale).

[okgo]

5 and 6 had some fun moments but honestly have 0 replay value for me as well, my least faves of the franchise indeed I fear (which is a shame bcuz I do like the casts they put together for both)

 

[ccfan007]

22 hours ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

And it also:

 

VI also wasn't the franchise's most successful sequel. Adjust for inflation and both 2 and 3 decimate VI at the box office. VI may have done well but all the flaws have gotten even more apparent since release and it will age like milk. It is the franchise's equivalent of Halloween: Resurrection and Freddy's Dead. 

This

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

The amount of antisemitism and ageism Melissa stans have been hurling towards Neve's way on Twitter is really ****** up. I hope she hires security around 7's release because there is truly nothing stopping a Melissa stan from trying to hurt her or her family. 

[Sexyzinger]

12 hours ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

The amount of antisemitism and ageism Melissa stans have been hurling towards Neve's way on Twitter is really ****** up. I hope she hires security around 7's release because there is truly nothing stopping a Melissa stan from trying to hurt her or her family. 

Yeah, good thing that Neve has a good head on her shoulders and isn't chronically online like some actresses, so I think any kind of hate train that targets Neve during her promotion of Scream 7 will largely bypass Neve's radar.

 

We all must make a concerted effort to support actresses in their mid-life careers. Very few still receive opportunities like Neve is getting, and we need to show our appreciation to her and the studio for supporting our powerful girlie that has a proven box office record with Scream.

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

5 minutes ago, Sexyzinger said:

Yeah, good thing that Neve has a good head on her shoulders and isn't chronically online like some actresses, so I think any kind of hate train that targets Neve during her promotion of Scream 7 will largely bypass Neve's radar.

 

We all must make a concerted effort to support actresses in their mid-life careers. Very few still receive opportunities like Neve is getting, and we need to show our appreciation to her and the studio for supporting our powerful girlie that has a proven box office record with Scream.

Not you being a Scream 7 supporter and a Neve stan. I'm willing to set aside my Katy hatred when it comes to you if it means we can form a truce 

 

But yeah it's genuinely really depressing seeing Meliesa stans attack Neve when they don't know that she's one of the main reasons this franchise is as successful as it is whereas, with all due respect, the majority of people don't give a **** about Melissa or Sam Carpenter's generic Riverdale ass character. Seeing them resort to ageism and the "Greedy Jew" stereotype is just disheartening and repulsive, especially when Melissa stans should know what it's like to see their fave be on the receiving end of so much vitriol yet they're hurling more hate towards Neve than Melissa ever got post-Scream 5.

 

Also kinda ironic that Neve is getting hit with these "Zionist!!11" allegations when Melissa is a Clinique ambassador and their parent company donates to the IDF. Not to mention Abigail is distributed by Universal which donated to Israel so like…both her and her fans are major hypocrites. Lowkey scared to see 7 in theatres bc there's nothing stopping some low-IQ Melissa stan from shooting up the cinema dd  All that for a Khia who doesn't even possess half the acting chops Neve does, there's a reason why an entire subplot in 6 was symbolism for how much people (rightfully) hated her in 5, giving Rooney Mara in Elm Street reboot teas but the difference being that Rooney knew she was **** whereas Melissa STILL thinks she did something with that comatose line delivery. Stupid  

[Jay07]

My main gripe is people demanding Neve support Melissa. I agree with Melissa's point of view but Neve is a middle aged actress and this is her franchise. Was she expected to step aside from one of the few professional opportunities available to her when no one of the new cast supported her when Spyglass lowballed her and she made the franchise what it is? It's sad to see a hate train from certain terminally online individuals but maybe they should focus on supporting Melissa's other efforts so her career can thrive. 

[YourFavoriteWeapon]

8 hours ago, Jay07 said:

My main gripe is people demanding Neve support Melissa. I agree with Melissa's point of view but Neve is a middle aged actress and this is her franchise. Was she expected to step aside from one of the few professional opportunities available to her when no one of the new cast supported her when Spyglass lowballed her and she made the franchise what it is? It's sad to see a hate train from certain terminally online individuals but maybe they should focus on supporting Melissa's other efforts so her career can thrive. 

It's so stupid expecting Neve to defend Melissa when:

 

1. This is Neve's franchise and she wanted to save it from being ruined. She's very protective of what Kevin and Wes built and knew that she had to make sure they didn't go the Scream Season 3 route by giving us a full-fledged reboot no one wanted. 
2. Melissa didn't ask for a pay cut for 6 in exchange for Neve to get a fair salary. 
3. Melissa isn't defending Neve from the onslaught of ageism, antisemitism, death threats, and harassment that she's received. 
4. Neve is a 50 year old C-List actress who will most likely never see a million dollar check ever again in her career. I don't blame her for taking the check at all when it's Hard Out Here.mp3, especially when her only income is going to horror conventions and royalties/residuals from Scream airing during the Halloween season.
5. Neve is not Melissa's friend and doesn't owe her ****.

[dman4life]

S6 was good but definitely had it's wtf moments many of which have already been mentioned here. That scene with Sam and Ritchie's dad running toward each other at the end was definitely cringe. Not to mention Chad getting stabbed a gazillion and 1 times and still surviving 

[okgo]

 

there's a report that filming's postponed to early 2025 cuz of Kevin's Netflix series still being in production although DanielRPK seemingly denied it.. I guess we'll see, doesn't really make a lot of diff if Dec or Jan tbh in fact wouldnt it be better to just start after the holidays are over with?

 

Edited September 6 by okgo

[monologueNacafe]

With or without Neve, I'm not even sure what they can do to keep this franchise interesting. The last one, which everyone on here praised ad nauseum, was just ok…

[monologueNacafe]

On 8/26/2024 at 7:52 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said:

And it also:

 

1. had absolutely zero stakes for any of the characters, going as far to have five fake-out deaths in a row which was outrageous. Only one substantial person died (Anika) and the rest of the kills were extras and characters we knew nothing about like this was a Friday The 13th sequel, showcasing that the writers don't know what makes this franchise Scream. 

 

2. proved that the writers are the dumbest people to ever be given the privilege of writing a script. How on earth are we supposed to believe that no one knew who Richie's family was? They would've been doxxed after his murder spree. How was Bailey take the case of a Ghostface spree being Richie's father? How did Quinn find Sam and Tara on an anonymous roommate ad? How did Bailey expect to replace Quinn's body with a "fresh one" and expect her to be able to move on with her life given that she's "dead"? 

 

3. showed that the writers don't understand how wounds work. Tara can roam around the city after getting stabbed in the back and having a knife impale her stomach, but a simple stab to the shoulder has Mindy put on a stretcher in the previous film?

 

4. went against the possibility to do something actually new and interesting. The opening was promising knowing that they teased a potential plot line where we'd be following a Ghostface whose identity we know throughout the film or a vigilante Ghostface who goes after members of the Stab cult who prey on the innocent, but instead chickened out and gave us an overtly long Scream 2 rehash. They pussied out of doing "something different" like the trailer promised and that might be the biggest flaw of them all.

 

5. failed to develop any of the returning characters or make them any interesting. Sam barely grew between films and only got dumber (why would she leave Bailey with his gun after he got knocked out and refuse to help a bleeding out Kirby while deeming her Ghostface fetish to be more important?), Mindy got more annoying with that unbearable rules scene and lack of tact and sensitivity for her friends, Chad stayed the same, and after spending two movies with Tara the only thing I can tell you is that she's Sam's asthmatic sister and the two butt heard at points. Not to mention they ruined Kirby by making her incompetent at her job (re: telling Sam and Tara they couldn't leave the city after the bodega attack and not making sure who Richie's family was) and went all Groundhog Day with Gale by squashing all the growth she showed in five and reverting her back to the Gale from the first film.

 

VI also wasn't the franchise's most successful sequel. Adjust for inflation and both 2 and 3 decimate VI at the box office. VI may have done well but all the flaws have gotten even more apparent since release and it will age like milk. It is the franchise's equivalent of Halloween: Resurrection and Freddy's Dead. 

💀 

[stjosephprey4us]

Why does this thread have 199 pages? Is it the master thread or did the script leak or something? 
 

OT: I really liked the arc they were building w 5 and 6, and those were the two that actually got me into the franchise. However, going back and rewatching the og 4, I think it's actually good the focus is getting back on Sidney. Interested to see where this goes (politics involved with the studio aside ) but I feel like they definitely have to bring something fresh to the table bc a lot of the angles have been tackled before up to this point. 

[Chris]

Do you guys think the long gaps between Scream 3, 4, and 5 somehow ruined any momentum this franchise had as a whole?

 

All are 11 years apart.

 

Edited September 9 by Chris

[GraceRandolph]

 

[paddii_]

On 9/9/2024 at 3:39 AM, Chris said:

Do you guys think the long gaps between Scream 3, 4, and 5 somehow ruined any momentum this franchise had as a whole?

 

All are 11 years apart.

 

Scream was dead after 3 the reception wasn't really good and also the time was not good for horror films because violence was blamed on movies

 

4 was the first try of revitalizing the franchise but it didn't go as planned, also because during that time there was no thirst for killer films as people got sick of torture porn and ghost movie became pretty trendy. 
 

5 was the second try at revitalizing and they were using the success of Halloween and introduced new characters. I feel like a lot of people are underestimating the impact of the new characters on recent success. A lot of people maybe don't like it but you can see based on the success that people like it. 
 

to answer your question shortly: the long gaps were due to the franchise being kind of dead in between 

[okgo]

with Hayden starring?? :o

 

[stjosephprey4us]

On 9/8/2024 at 9:39 PM, Chris said:

Do you guys think the long gaps between Scream 3, 4, and 5 somehow ruined any momentum this franchise had as a whole?

 

All are 11 years apart.

 

I routinely see Scream topping lists of best Horror franchises so I think the gaps actually did right by it, bc it prevented a million needless sequels (like Halloween, Saw, etc. are tainted by). Scream 5 was the revitalization 4 wished for (although 4 was a good way to leave a mark for the in between generation). I think 7 will really decide how impactful Scream's legacy will be…