Digitalism Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 7 minutes ago, mike_int said: The obsession with charts is ridiculous. Are we acting like the album was critically acclaimed and we only care about the charts now? The least she could do is try to get her name out there with a single. Right now she has nothing other than Houdini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migs Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 minutes ago, mike_int said: The obsession with charts is ridiculous. How come when somebody's flopping you guys act like "chart obsession is ridiculous", but when they got a hit, everybody goes "YAAAAS QUEEN", "she never loses", "Gagged"?! Charts are a way to measure success and we all want our faves to have a successful era. Even Dua cares about charts since she's always reposting ChartData, UK Charts, Billboard, etc. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, Migs said: How come when somebody's flopping you guys act like "chart obsession is ridiculous", but when they got a hit, everybody goes "YAAAAS QUEEN", "she never loses", "Gagged"?! Charts are a way to measure success and we all want our faves to have a successful era. Even Dua cares about charts since she's always reposting ChartData, UK Charts, Billboard, etc. Not me, not me ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Digitalism said: Are we acting like the album was critically acclaimed and we only care about the charts now? The least she could do is try to get her name out there with a single. Right now she has nothing other than Houdini. "The least she could do is try to get her name out there with a single." Not you acting like nobody knows who Dua Lipa is, and not like she is about to release single no.4 LOL Some of you could make a Club Of Never-ending Whining Brats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudy Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 hours ago, Truth Teller said: This album is already locked down to be a major underperformance and any future single is doomed. These Walls is my personal favorite but it's very lowkey, it's the type of song that can only be a hit if the previous single was also a hit. Having zero momentum to ride on, it will do nothing Falling Forever is the worst song of her career but it stands out. It will bomb in the anglosphere but I can see it doing well in smaller european markets, which has its utility. I'd rather she ended the era and moved on but if there has to be another single, she might as well get a top 5 airplay hit in Croatia and Romania I totally get what you say about These Walls. Yasss get that european hit queen, next step Eurovision. Eleni better hold to her wig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDuaStan Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, mike_int said: The obsession with charts is ridiculous. The album is critically panned so what else should we care about then if not for charts 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, TayDuaStan said: The album is critically panned so what else should we care about then if not for charts I care about what I like, not what is critically or commercially acclaimed. I like the album, so I'm enjoying it. If you don't, coming here every day whining about it wont change a thing. I cannot imagine coming to threads of artists and albums I dont like just to complain there everyday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDuaStan Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 She needs to release "Radical Optimism and it's the same but all the songs have been replaced with much better Future Nostalgia outtakes so it's not" 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashe Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, Cloudy said: next step Eurovision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGALIPA Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I wonder if these people ranting here would have a different take when her 3 singles charted on Top 10 on billboard or at least have high position streams on spotify? I think its all psychological. Fans start complaining just because the songs are not charting as expected. We all want Dua to succeed but all you keep doing is complaining based on the current chart position of her singles. 😅 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, GAGALIPA said: I wonder if these people ranting here would have a different take when her 3 singles charted on Top 10 on billboard or at least have high position streams on spotify? I think its all psychological. Fans start complaining just because the songs are not charting as expected. We all want Dua to succeed but all you keep doing is complaining based on the current chart position of her singles. 😅 the songs didn't chart well for a reason or... multiple reasons... houdini while a great song is not a lead material and tanked the entire era combined with her fake descriptions training season's entire release was messy and sabotaged by her daddy like the video, the performance/delayed release alone... all should be showed to aspiring managers to teach them how not to handle a song release illusion was just so bland and felt like a reductive comeback on future nostalgia sound with the lyrics from dance the night with a cheap kylie copy video... so messy she should pretend this album and era never happened and record the next album and just sing houdini/TS on the next tours i guess 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 14 minutes ago, halcyonday said: she should pretend this album and era never happened and record the next album and just sing houdini/TS on the next tours i guess I wish people like you pretend this thread doesnt exist and stop complaining over the same thing over and over. You are really investing lot of time on something you dont like. Go and invest it into something you actually like. It will be win-win situation ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Good recording of Nimes show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiawithDua Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 So what songs from DL1 is she gonna perform for Glastonbury, considering it'll be 1 hr 45 mins long….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 30 minutes ago, NostalgiawithDua said: So what songs from DL1 is she gonna perform for Glastonbury, considering it'll be 1 hr 45 mins long….. The current show is 1hr 25mnts so there is enough time to add like 5-6 songs. Maybe she will do some surprise duet with some British artist, plus she will add Falling Forever and who knows. I would prefer if she added new songs, End Of An Era, Whatcha Doin, Falling Forever and Maria Edited June 14 by mike_int 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayDuaStan Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 17 minutes ago, NostalgiawithDua said: So what songs from DL1 is she gonna perform for Glastonbury, considering it'll be 1 hr 45 mins long….. Fingers crossed she sings Genesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crank_It_Up Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I knew we were doomed the second we tweeted about "seeing all the love for Falling Forever"… And now it's the next single. This era is comical at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 9 hours ago, mike_int said: Good recording of Nimes show She is a STAR this show is Im exited for Glastonbury show 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBeMe Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 16 hours ago, halcyonday said: houdini while a great song is not a lead material and tanked the entire era combined with her fake descriptions THANK YOU! So many ppl were against my take when Houdini first came out. At the time I got ppl were defensive because it's a genuine bop BUT it is NOT lead single material and that plain mv CERTIANLY is not the mv u do to introduce a new era. Houdini as a second single would have been out of this world just like Physical! But as a lead? NO. A lead single has to be a little daring imo and also fully fleshed out. Houdini is just a chorus repeated endlessly with pretty and addictive instrumentation. The lyrics do not stick or create an interesting visual in your mind imo. It's weird to say but even something sort of unconventional like End of An Era could have been more interesting as a lead and more in line with the "brit pop" vibes some of the record does have because it certainly DOES NOT have psychedelic pop vibes imo (apart for a few super short moments on some songs here and there). Ppl keep pointing at the Training Season mv as the starting point of this era going poorly etc but I'd argue the era started off poorly right from the start. It's not to say Houdini isn't a fantastic song! Again as a second or third single it would have been gobbled up but as a lead? It just totally fizzled out the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) It is scientifically proven starting your day with "End Of An Era" followed by "These Walls" and "Falling Forever" makes your day 99% better Edited June 15 by mike_int 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiawithDua Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Training Season live version screams Lead Single and the original mv would've been the cherry on the cake, probably the most US friendly song. The studio version is bland and monotonous. More than the singles, it's the mid-tempo album tracks. All the singles including FF feels out of place on the album… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 22 minutes ago, NostalgiawithDua said: Training Season live version screams Lead Single and the original mv would've been the cherry on the cake, probably the most US friendly song. The studio version is bland and monotonous. More than the singles, it's the mid-tempo album tracks. All the singles including FF feels out of place on the album… Would be great if original TS video leaked, at least in a version like Britney's Make Me video leaked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 Songs like Falling Forever and These Walls got me re-visited DL1 again. Really strong debut album. Love Dua's raw vocals on some songs, just like on FF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBeMe Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 minute ago, mike_int said: Really strong debut album. Love Dua's raw vocals on some songs, that's the thing that always gets me back to DL1. Her vocal delivery on it was way more raw and "sincere" if that makes sense? On FF she was clearly singing in a way to fit the track's production but on DL1 she was way more free form. On RO she's in a limbo state of a little rawness and a little overthinking things vocally speaking so it feels soulless imo but the tone and technical aspect are always perfect at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_int Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 5 minutes ago, IBeMe said: that's the thing that always gets me back to DL1. Her vocal delivery on it was way more raw and "sincere" if that makes sense? On FF she was clearly singing in a way to fit the track's production but on DL1 she was way more free form. On RO she's in a limbo state of a little rawness and a little overthinking things vocally speaking so it feels soulless imo but the tone and technical aspect are always perfect at least I think a lot depends also on final vocal productions. These days vocal engineers sometimes use unnecessary steps ion a vocal chain to achieve the most perfect, clean, tuned sound and it does lost part of the character. Also it depends on a song. You cannot have same vocal delivery on all songs. However I think Dua's tone is very unique so it is still fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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