Sheep Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Britney never had her critical darling moment because the people who stole control of her career had no concern for her public image and were happy to keep the 3/10 reviews coming in for projects she had barely any input on as long cash was flowing. The albums she was directly in charge of are now considered to be classics by pop listeners. Jennifer Lopez never had her critical darling moment because she isn't that good of a music artist. Edited February 24 by Sheep 4 2
Big Bad Wolf Posted February 24 Posted February 24 The difference between the two is that Britney was way more consistent in her career, though J.Lo has attempted to become a jack of all trades, she does not have the core fanbase that Britney has garnered through her music. Where are the J.Lo stans going up for her 2000s work or acting roles? N/A + Britney is cited as an influence from nearly all of the fellow pop girls...J.Lo is respected as an entertainer but that's it. She doesn't have Britney's iconic style, sound, or personality. Also, Britney at least has 1 deserved Grammy, and J.Lo rightfully has none. 3 1 1
Tropez Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, kexin said: I mean so many publications upon artists have been outspoken for her impqct in pop music, I fail to see how she is not respected. On top of that, an overwhelming majority supported her to be removed of her conservatorship. I mean Katy also was popular at one point in the early 10s. In fact you cant even talk about that period in pop culture without mentioning Katy. But artists like Adele and Gaga debuted that same year. Yet Gaga and Adele who are Oscar winners are seen as far more legitimate in their craft than Katy. That’s where I am getting at. Britney is more known for her personal tribulations than her vocals, musicality, songwriting, and overall talent.
XDNA Posted February 24 Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, Disconnect said: I think JLO should never be respected as an artist. She has literally stolen other people's vocals and songs and she became famous thanks to Selena so... Actually the public were very critical of JLo portraying Selena because she was not of Mexican descent. But, she won the fans and public over because she did a great job acting in that movie. Now that movie is a classic. Jennifer I would say has gotten respect for her acting, such as in Selena, Out of Sight and Hustlers. I think now that she will focus more on acting we may see her be taken more seriously in Hollywood. TBH Hollywood has a bias against musicians that are actors too. 8
jomarr Posted February 24 Posted February 24 I din’t understand how people think Britney isn’t respected as an artist when critics and artists acknowledge Britney’s impact in the music industry. You can’t tell that Britney isn’t taken seriously when a significant amount of artists cling on to her as an inspiration for their music. You have to revise the title to “Why isn’t JLo and Britney taken seriously by ATRL?” 9 3
Twixters Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Britney is respected as an artist I think. BLACKOUT stays with raving reviews. Same with the song toxic. Jlo never had those moments. 1 1
gimmelaugh Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Unfortunately I have to agree even though I like both artists. But I think Katy Perry is the least respected among all the pop girls. Britney still has a strong fanbase and even though people seem not to care about JLo's music, she did receive some acclaim for her movies such as Hustlers. Katy was very popular with her mindless fun bops and then just kinda dipped and people just remembered her as that not-so-serious pop singer. 4
americanshameless Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Who the **** cares about a Grammy Britney is WAY more respected by her peers in the industry and seen as an inspiration for all pop acts. Crying bout it on ATRL on a Friday night is a choice Edited February 24 by americanshameless 3 5
Rev8 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) Tropez Always has something negative to say about Britney 23 minutes ago, jomarr said: I din’t understand how people think Britney isn’t respected as an artist when critics and artists acknowledge Britney’s impact in the music industry. You can’t tell that Britney isn’t taken seriously when a significant amount of artists cling on to her as an inspiration for their music. You have to revise the title to “Why isn’t JLo and Britney taken seriously by ATRL?” Also THIS Big acclaimed artists have shown how much they Love Britney's work. Covered , tributed her etc. viral tweets are making rounds about how the new pop girls cant touch her and how they even copy her .. Not to mention publications are CONSTANTLY coming out to talk about Britney's influence on music and current artists HOW are u going to say that she isn't taken seriously Only on ATRL Edited February 24 by Rev8 3
wigglytuffer Posted February 24 Posted February 24 28 minutes ago, Tropez said: I think this is a better way of saying it than I am. Yours still very much stands tho! Especially the stuff about 2000s pop girls not getting flowers, all relevant! I completely agree about Pop getting it's moment now, as Pop's always been 'Pop' - aka 'Popular Music' and therefore not artistic. Trend chasing, radio-friendly, made ONLY to be popular and not to be 'good.' Other genres carry prestige due to not being labelled Pop, but finally the Pop 'craft' is being recognised
Popboi. Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eternium said: Beyonce will never be forward-thinking with an album and that’s what holds her back compared to an artist like Britney. You can buy Grammys and you can buy magazine reviews, but you can’t buy genuine impact. Britney’s formula is still closely followed today and she has some of the most impactful eras ever. Beyoncé’s a great artist and incredibly talented, but she doesn’t have the same impact and is always chasing trends instead of setting them (running to Spanglish in 2007, getting on the house/gay lingo trend in 2022, etc.). You did NOT say Britney is forward thinking and Beyoncé is not. One just released an album embracing ball and house culture and reclaim some light to it as it’s often not seen as a genre originated by people of color - the same she is intending with country on act ii and possibly rock with act iii. The other released 9 writing camp’d albums that tackle relationships and sex pretty much all the way through, in a row. Her albums can be fun, often great, but let’s not act like there’s even one glimpse of forward thinking on a Britney album. Edited February 24 by Popboi. 9 1 3 3
Triton Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Britney isn’t really involved plus she’s the utter definition of label puppet. Her recent posts don’t do anything to help command respect. JLo just accepts ANY shitty project and throws it out hoping something will stick, there’s no conviction. 5 4
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted February 24 ATRL Moderator Posted February 24 Blackout is on Rolling Stone’s 500 greatest albums list. Ranked higher than Born This Way, too. You all really need to come to grips with how the public perception of Britney has changed. 14
Triton Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Honestly the title is so wrong, it should be “the last to be taken seriously” 1
shyboi Posted February 24 Posted February 24 this is so random and unhinged lmaoo we have no choice but to smile politely i fear
kexin Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Popboi. said: You did NOT say Britney is forward thinking and Beyoncé is not. One just released an album embracing ball and house culture and reclaim some light to it as it’s often not seen as a genre originated by people of color - the same she is intending with country on act ii and possibly rock with act iii. The other released 9 writing camp’d albums that tackle relationships and sex pretty much all the way through, in a row. Her albums can be fun, often great, but let’s not act like there’s even one glimpse of forward thinking on a Britney album. Femme Fatale is more forward thinking than RENAISSANCE 2 2
Both Sides Now Posted February 24 Posted February 24 I disagree about Britney. Her impact on the industry has been broadly celebrated over the last few years. The dominant narrative is that she was unfairly scrutinised by a misogynistic industry and that we didn’t appreciate her contributions when we had them. While it might be a little overstated by her stans, I think Blackout and Toxic are two works that have clearly been revised by poptism. Jennifer is a much different place in the zeitgeist than Britney. She is sort of famous for being famous which isn’t what the ~culture~ is interested in now. Add onto that, poptism is tied up with social justice issues there are some iffy cultural appropriation moments in JLo’s music with and yeah… I don’t think people will really be sending up for JLo currently. 8 1
ericcartman Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Jlo is more of an actress who found some success in music. She shouldn't be expected to be taken that seriously. Katy and Britney are the two pop girls who are not taken seriously.
Johnnyboi Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Britney has been reappraised for years now. She’s on both Rolling Stones 500 albums and songs for years now. 1
Happylittlepunk Posted February 24 Posted February 24 You should’ve removed Britney and add in Katy instead. All these girls have created fun music but it’s clear that JLO along with Katy are probably the least respected pop girls in the last 20 years. Both have no impact or influence. Both have had a lot commercial success but nobody d running to cite them as inspiration. 1 1
Trent W Posted February 24 Posted February 24 These takes one Britney are soo sooo outdated, like stuck back 20 years In the general conscious of 2024 Britney’s career is respected and seen as a blueprint of her generation. She defined pop culture in the 00s. 8 2
BraveNewSeth Posted February 24 Posted February 24 This isn’t fair to say about Britney. She was just beginning to find her musical identity with ITZ and Blackout when the conservatorship happened and completely dried up her creative juices. She was never given a proper chance to show the world who she was as an artist because the only thing her handlers cared about was making as much money as possible. Jlo… yeah. Nothing against her but it was always clear that music was just a vanity project for her. I guess TIMT is a good example of her artistic identity, but it’s too saccharine to really be taken seriously imo. 4 1 1
dirrtydiana Posted February 24 Posted February 24 The joke here is people still taking the scammies seriously. You think hundreds of years from now people will look back and remember Beyoncé or Britney for the amount of meaningless trophies they collected or lack there of? they’re an invented contest. The art is what is valuable 1
Ivan_brit Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Jlo Maybe Britney literally keeps giving us basically nothing just by her Instagram keep her relevant 1
knewbetterpt2 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 JLo has been consistent at giving us bare minimum when it comes to the music aspect of this conversation. It’s also obvious Britney is being tacked onto this post because of the dominant narrative on social media right now that she’s “a crazy person again” for simply twirling in her living room.. RCA has writers and producers lining up to work with Britney since post-conservatorship, if she wanted to play the game her comeback numbers would be huge. Britney is extremely respected within the industry and amongst her peers (speaking of Beyonce, who tried getting her in a video just a year or two ago and incorporated Brits music in her tour set). Just because she ditched the music and chooses to troll us all via socials does not erase her extremely large impact even in today’s music scene. JLo is not taken seriously because she’s inherently negative towards all of her peers and half asses her own music career. Not a bad actress though! 1 1
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