Communion Posted February 22 Posted February 22 14 minutes ago, ontherocks said: No, the blame is on ppl like you 22 minutes ago, GhostBox said: Then they better not complain when this stuff happens after Trump wins 🤷 Just say you hate low income black Americans and move on, sisters! Quote “I don’t feel bad,” Mr. Fleming said, trimming a mustache. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They never do anything for us anyway.” As Democrats pick through the wreckage of the campaign, one lesson is clear: The election was notable as much for the people who did not show up, as for those who did. Nationally, about half of eligible voters did not cast ballots. The biggest drop was here in District 15, a stretch of fading wooden homes, sandwich shops and fast-food restaurants that is 84 percent black. In this district, voter turnout declined by 19.5 percent from 2012 figures, according to Neil Albrecht, executive director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission. It is home to some of Milwaukee’s poorest residents and, according to a 2016 documentary, “Milwaukee 53206,” has one of the nation’s highest per-capita incarceration rates. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html 5
byzantium Posted February 22 Posted February 22 15 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said: We already saw what happens when Trump won his first election, sis. It's pretty clear the whole system needs to be dismantled - I just wish americans could wrap their heads around dismantling it WHILE a democrat is in power That would require leadership. Something the democrats seem opposed to. 1
ontherocks Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, byzantium said: So why risk that? If trump is truly such a risk, then why run such a weak candidate. Y'all can argue with the wall or the entire south, midwest and cute states like Utah, Wyoming and both Dakotas. Go there and see what happens.
byzantium Posted February 23 Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, ontherocks said: Y'all can argue with the wall or the entire south, midwest and cute states like Utah, Wyoming and both Dakotas. Go there and see what happens. I’m literally from WI. You seriously want to have a conversation about politics in a state that can swing the election? 1
Communion Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 10 minutes ago, byzantium said: That would require leadership. Something the democrats seem opposed to. Genuinely insane that Biden's chances are so poor that the discourse has devolved into 2016-era "non-voters are privileged rich white dudes who deserve to die!!" rhetoric (cc: @Espresso ddd). The worst part being... the clear pivot is so obviously rooted in Biden's Zionism. He basically Is so ideologically committed to Israel that his admin seeing progressives upset over it has led the White House to a strategy of just lurching rightward and telling progressives to **** off. Cause in 20202 they at least did lip service to progressive causes. 6 minutes ago, ontherocks said: Y'all can argue with the wall or the entire south, midwest and cute states like Utah, Wyoming and both Dakotas. Go there and see what happens. ....do you think the US presidential election is determined by states like... Utah?? Edited February 23 by Communion 1
ontherocks Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, byzantium said: I’m literally from WI. You seriously want to have a conversation about politics in a state that can swing the election? Well, first of all, that's very of brave of you to admit that you are from there. Secondly, ppl are not so much against Biden as they are pro Trump. They want that type of leader and that's okay, you'll get him very soon. Thankfully in your case, Canada ain't far. 1 1
Bosque Posted February 23 Posted February 23 43 minutes ago, byzantium said: And what happens when enough people choose not? I guess they will live with the consequence 1 1
Vermillion Posted February 23 Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Communion said: Genuinely insane that Biden's chances are so poor that the discourse has devolved into 2016-era "non-voters are privileged rich white dudes who deserve to die!!" rhetoric (cc: @Espresso ddd). I knew it was coming, but I was hoping it wouldn’t be until after the conventions at least. I’m…..tired. 1
Gottasadae Posted February 23 Posted February 23 23 minutes ago, Communion said: Just say you hate low income black Americans and move on, sisters! https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html Low income black Americans like many other groups of ppl are depending on SS benefits that were significantly raised under Biden administration, such SNAP, medicaid, plus utilities and rent assistance benefit rates. Isn’t Trump was the one who cut SNAP rates and keep promising to continue his “achievements" to cut even more benefits if he returns into oval office. 1
Rep2000 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 "But- but- but- Biden" is gonna be the next "but her emails" I swear. 1
Communion Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Gottasadae said: Low income black Americans like many other groups of ppl are depending on SS benefits that were significantly raised under Biden administration, such SNAP, medicaid ?
xXavril Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) Didn’t we already know this was the plan? Project 25 has been known for like two years now. also not some users defending this and saying they’re ‘joking’. It’s not a joke. Just look at Alabama, said ivf is a baby and cite the wrath of god. We’ve been heading this direction for years it’s just been so slow and subtle that the average person isn’t noticing it Edited February 23 by xXavril 1
Gottasadae Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Communion said: ? "Procedural reasons" are more related to particular States and their rules, not Biden. Anyway, income eligibility limit for medicaid were significantly raised under Biden, so more ppl have a chance to get coverage, especially in such expensive state like NY for example. Trump did absolutely nada for low income ppl, only cut taxes for the rich, straight facts.
Communion Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, Gottasadae said: "Procedural reasons" are more related to particular States and their rules, not Biden. No, "procedural reasons" mean Biden's decision to end the public health emergency declaration that required state Medicaid programs to ensure qualified and eligible people received continuous Medicaid coverage and that state governments weren't allowed to arbitrarily kick people off for procedural reasons like paperwork missing. Meaning that these protections and expanded benefits from COVID lifting causes 17M people to lose their access to Medicaid. If Republicans can take away Medicaid - a federal program - from millions people under Biden.. what's the point of voting for Biden to protect Medicaid?
Gottasadae Posted February 23 Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, Communion said: No, "procedural reasons" mean Biden's decision to end the public health emergency declaration that required state Medicaid programs to ensure qualified and eligible people received continuous Medicaid coverage and that state governments weren't allowed to arbitrarily kick people off for procedural reasons like paperwork missing. Meaning that these protections and expanded benefits from COVID lifting causes 17M people to lose their access to Medicaid. If Republicans can take away Medicaid - a federal program - from millions people under Biden.. what's the point of voting for Biden to protect Medicaid? So according this tweet - Texas has disenrolled the most Medicaid members, another proof that GOP controlled states are doing whatever they want to harm their own ppl, but but but Biden, I guess, right?
Communion Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Gottasadae said: Texas has disenrolled the most Medicaid members After being given the green light by the Biden admin that everyone needed "to accept COVID is over" and end all the social safety nets that were put in place under the COVID-19 public health emergency, yes, thank you for showing how they work in tandem.
XAMJ Posted February 23 Posted February 23 You guys can keep debating about polls and saying Biden that Biden this but literally the other option is this bullshit 3
GhostBox Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Communion said: Just say you hate low income black Americans and move on, sisters! https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html Says the user who is always trashing older black dem voters 😂
GhostBox Posted February 23 Posted February 23 28 minutes ago, XAMJ said: You guys can keep debating about polls and saying Biden that Biden this but literally the other option is this bullshit Exactly.
ClashAndBurn Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Espresso said: I knew it was coming, but I was hoping it wouldn’t be until after the conventions at least. I’m…..tired. It's genuinely all the democrats have to lean on. Reverting back to the same playbooks that lost them election 8 years ago. They genuinely have nothing else, because Joe Biden now has four years of not much other than unprecedented levels of skyrocketing inflation and roads and bridges under his record. 2
Rep2000 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 3 hours ago, xXavril said: Didn’t we already know this was the plan? Project 25 has been known for like two years now. also not some users defending this and saying they’re ‘joking’. It’s not a joke. Just look at Alabama, said ivf is a baby and cite the wrath of god. We’ve been heading this direction for years it’s just been so slow and subtle that the average person isn’t noticing it Some would still swear to you that this is just Project Fear propagandas, that Trump is just "nonsense" nothingburger. They really learned nothing out of 2016. 2
GhostBox Posted February 23 Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: Some would still swear to you that this is just Project Fear propagandas, that Trump is just "nonsense" nothingburger. They really learned nothing out of 2016. Yup just fear mongering trump would never do any of the things people are sayi……..oh wait
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted February 23 ATRL Moderator Posted February 23 19 hours ago, GhostBox said: Then they better not complain when this stuff happens after Trump wins 🤷 I hope you hold yourself to the same standard and that you don't complain if Trump wins—because you chose to quadruple-down on a blatantly weak candidate and refused to even consider alternatives for the good of the country. 1
GhostBox Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 hours ago, Bloo said: I hope you hold yourself to the same standard and that you don't complain if Trump wins—because you chose to quadruple-down on a blatantly weak candidate and refused to even consider alternatives for the good of the country. Show me one polled candidate doing better than biden against Trump and I might support them. I’ll wait. I’ll complain all I want knowing I voted for the only other person in the ballot who can win other than Trump. Same can’t be said For others 🤷 1
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