Eternium Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Madonna never had to thrive off payola to push her career. No offense to Beyonce, but her career isn’t half the size of Madonna’s even with two payola scandals.
Eternium Posted February 23 Posted February 23 7 hours ago, unclefloprry said: now put her latest real releases, her latest albums and singles, not just a meme song that revives for a month. “Meme song” Spotify AIWFCIY - 1,802,121,852 Halo - 1,486,009,951 Dark Horse - 1,359,262,337 Popular - 606,608,703 Imagine trying to downplay AIWFCIY like it’s not about to become the best-charting song of all-time. No other song even comes close globally. 7 hours ago, suneclipse121 said: I get this to an extent but the huge difference is that Beyonce is doing it with her NEW material. Mariah’s new stuff is not bringing in numbers nowadays at all and she's mostly relying on her older catalog. Which is not a bad thing, she has a legendary catalog. But context is important because what Beyonce is accomplishing is different. But Beyonce is also living in a different world where streams have made the market significantly easier. Tertiary radio plays have been turned into album sales that just didn’t exist - hence Beyonce bombing massively with projects like Everything Is Love and The Gift but rebounding when streaming grew and recovering with Renaissance. It’s also important to note that Beyoncé and her husband have been caught manipulating streams. And Beyoncé’s label was caught manipulating airplay. That helped with her longevity greatly. 1
toxicgenie Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) What sets Madonna apart is that she did it by herself. That's what sets Madonna apart. Madonna didn't need a girl group as a safety net. Madonna didn't need to marry a man to further her career. Edited February 23 by toxicgenie
LanaDelRey Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Madonna's longevity is kinda overrated, she was really only relevant for like 21 years of her career. Beyonce surpassed her long ago
Godontop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 16 hours ago, Alongoria13 said: Please take Madonna’s name out of your UNWASHED mouths Madge still going
Eternium Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, LanaDelRey said: Madonna's longevity is kinda overrated, she was really only relevant for like 21 years of her career. Beyonce surpassed her long ago In CSPC: Madonna after 21 years COADF - 13,557,000 Hard Candy - 6,190,000 MDNA - 2,584,000 Rebel Heart - 1,450,000 Madame X - 295,000 Beyonce Everything Is Love (15 years in) - 1,006,000 The Gift (16 years in) - 1,151,000 Beyonce has done incredibly well so to say Madonna’s numbers are anything less than spectacular is pure delusion.
Soda Pop Queen Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) She's joining their league, the first pop girl in this century to do it tbh. But let it be known that if Texas, Hold 'Em sails to #1 like it's being predicted then Beyoncé will be the first woman to ever have multiple #1 hits on Billboard in her middle-age (40s and up). There was only 5 women before her to begin with pre-Break My Soul. She is easing the path for the younger women after her and that shouldn't be taken lightly. Edited February 23 by Soda Pop Queen
Soda Pop Queen Posted February 23 Posted February 23 3 hours ago, toxicgenie said: What sets Madonna apart is that she did it by herself. That's what sets Madonna apart. Madonna didn't need a girl group as a safety net. Madonna didn't need to marry a man to further her career. y'all love casting aspersions on her starting in a girl group like that's something to be shameful of, like she didn't literally grow up in a homegrown group with her childhood friends. Y'all also love handing all her hard work and success to a man that has never even managed her career, been the head of her label, etc. I don't know what all that's about but y'all always sound mad goofy when you try to make it a thing.
BnPac Posted February 23 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, toxicgenie said: What sets Madonna apart is that she did it by herself. That's what sets Madonna apart. Madonna didn't need a girl group as a safety net. Madonna didn't need to marry a man to further her career. Married a man to further her career? You people just say anything. And DC is a safety net? Then why are so few women for girl groups making it solo?
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