ontherocks Posted February 18 Posted February 18 "global smash", "we shouldn't care about US or UK". Welp babes, those are the markets where the money is and that matter the most for western artists. No1 curry about a good Spotify ranking in Saudi Arabia, Slovenia, The Philippines or Lithuania. 5 1 1 5
Kyoto Posted February 18 Posted February 18 We need to wait 12 months before dragging Dua's songs as flop. In 2025 you can make this thread and drag it. Until that we have to wait the songs accumulate 500m audience on radio and 1B playlist reach. 9
♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ Posted February 18 Posted February 18 TS is very mid im surprised her label allowed her to release it 1 1
LittleStarmen Posted February 18 Posted February 18 32 minutes ago, stupidjock said: These songs are still kinda FN/disco but are trying too hard to be something different and ending up sounding like nothing This. The songs are not bad but they dont have a HIT factor in them.
Bloodflowers. Posted February 18 Posted February 18 The themes for these songs aren't relatable for GP Imagine Kelly Clarkson singing lyrics of Training Season in accustic version 20 years from now to soccer moms on KC show. It doesn't work. Dua needs timeless, relatable and likeable lyrics. Even the song title "Training Season" is weird for a pop song, doesn't sound appealing. Dua needs her "Flowers"! 1
JBYRD Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I think one thing that also is doing her a disservice is that Dance the Night was so recent and did pretty well and it doesn’t feel like she’s been gone from music. 2
enchanted0 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Let's wait until September. Dua's music is like Kimchi, her music needs some time to be fermented for the GP.
Squall Posted February 18 Posted February 18 She is faceless, she was meant to fade at some point 1 2
TayDuaStan Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek . This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song).
torturedpoet Posted February 18 Posted February 18 she was always gonna fall off despite serving bops purely because she is not interesting at all. 1 1
torturedpoet Posted February 18 Posted February 18 17 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said: This era is clearly for the arts. are the arts in the room with us? 11 1
HANZ94 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Nothing her fans were delusional for getting cocky and thinking she was gonna last she was always going to be the new Katy Perry without the #1s Dua Lipa is one of those popstars who is easily replaceable 1
Bloodflowers. Posted February 18 Posted February 18 25 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said: I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek . This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song). Wait, really?? Dua sis....
DawnAnti Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: Aren’t her songs always slow to pick up and then atrl ends up looking dumb Well houdini pulled a houdini on the charts 1
Bosque Posted February 18 Posted February 18 (edited) 31 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said: I mean did you really expect this era to perform better or even the same as Future Nostalgia with the producers at the helm? Like, be serious. Look at their track record. Kevin Parker did Perfect Illusion (Tame Impala has like 1 song above 1b streams and the rest under 500M) & Danny L Harle mostly did hyperpop & niche music - and worked with artists like Charli XCX, Carly Rae Jepsen & Caroline Polachek . This era is clearly for the arts. If she wanted this era to perform better than FN, she would’ve released the music she worked on with Koz, Jason Evigan & Ian Kirkpatrick (they did most of her big hits: Levitating, DSN, New Rules, IDGAF, Physical, Love Again). But she scrapped almost all of those sessions (she probably only kept like 1 Ian Kirkpatrick song). While you are correct, the label is treating this release like a big mainstream pop record with music videos (TS reshoot was low budget but still…), promo slots on late night and an expensive performance at the Grammys, TTH placements etc. so if she wanted an arts not charts release, the budget should have been adjusted accordingly. People at her label are clearly expecting the same success as Future Nostalgia, which isn’t good for her from a pure business standpoint Edited February 18 by Dephira 1
Into The Void Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, suburbannature said: Aren’t her songs always slow to pick up and then atrl ends up looking dumb Yes And shes doing fine anyway a Saturday drop is expected lol
False God Posted February 18 Posted February 18 She is suffering the SOUR-GUTS syndrome without the no. 1 of course
Peak Now Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Honestly? Focus back on Houdini, it's held up better (and will probably hold up better) than Training Season. They really bungled this by not dropping Training Season on Feb 2nd before the Grammys-- she could've definitely gotten more GP interest that way I don't get why if her team was so keen on replicating the FN rollout, how did they forget that to replicate the Levitating Grammy boost the song had to be available to stream...
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