WildAmerican Posted February 9 Posted February 9 why is this thread riling up certain fan bases Gaga's achievement here doesn't diminish anyone else's 13
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said: my mistake 4 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: That user is not a Swiftie and has never posted anything about Taylor Swift on the base. Check again. Two of the three are Swifties. Edited February 9 by BrandNewBrandon 1
CaptainMusic Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, BrandNewBrandon said: Dangerous was out in 1991 and that's less than a decade after Thriller and was outsold by Metallica and Nirvanna along with falling behind Celine Dion and Mariah Carey in the subsequent years. Oh, and Whitney. I meant that Michael was no longer THE #1 per era. Even someone like him experienced a decrease in popularity so Gaga's peak in 2009-11 - no matter how low she'd go - would've never continued. None of those artists are “regular” pop acts and the only one who had a big gap on Dangerous globally was The Bodyguard. Dangerous actually sold more outside the U.S than any Metallica, Nirvana and Mariah album. No one stays #1 forever, even Taylor fell behind for a few years and will again eventually but in no way is this comparable to Gaga getting destroyed by Beyoncé, Katy, Rihanna, Taylor, Adele, Bieber, Drake, etc in the mid-2010s 5 1 2
PMM Posted February 9 Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: The second biggest peak of the 21st century only behind Adele's 21 With Gaga it wasn't just hit after hit after hit. It was SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT after SMASH HIT. The way everyone and their grandmothers had heard of her was unlike anything in the 21st century. And even more impressive is that, unlike Adele, she went unknown -----> THE BIGGEST ARTIST IN THE WORLD in her debut era. Incredible debut. and it wasn't just music it was fashion. not many designers wanted to work with singers, they were wearing mall clothes - not that's it's bad but... people and gp and gays were turning to her to look and think "what she will wear" "what will she do" and before? "with who is she sleeping?" "why this and that" Also I think she open more eyes on diversity. i think that before her people were hating on people who were fat, ugly etc. and when she came in the game it become more acceptable? i daon't wanna say that she change the world but you could definitelly see the change lady gaga is truly an icon. life, fashion, music, actor make-up wannabe 4
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, PMM said: people and gp and gays were turning to her to look and think "what she will wear" "what will she do" and before? "with who is she sleeping?" "why this and that" I don't think there's ever been a popstar whose LOOKS and what she wore to the red carpet made so much noise and headlines as Gaga. It's pretty ironic because who she dated was so uninteresting even during Gaga's peak. She was basically Britney but with red carpets instead of personal life. 2
brenda-walsh Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: Katy Perry - Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection: 26m EAS Rihanna - Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded: 24m EAS released almost the same time from her peers alone those are called deluxe editions. GGGB Reloaded and TD Complete Confection each had three new songs, not a whole new 8 track album with a different theme and sonic direction lady gaga even called TFM a new album herself 8
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: No one stays #1 forever, even Taylor fell behind for a few years and will again eventually but in no way is this comparable to Gaga getting destroyed by Beyoncé, Katy, Rihanna, Taylor, Adele, Bieber, Drake, etc in the mid-2010s Everyone has different downfalls. Gaga's was because she became too out there and she was overexposed. Adele, for example, is more for being the same with nothing new to offer, Beyoncé's 4 era was considered a commercial underperformance but that was because of its sound. Everyone's downfall is different.
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, DoubleRainbow! said: Combining 2 different eras lol I'm pretty sure that one era would still be more than Katy's most successful one. 2 2
Cruel Summer Posted February 9 Posted February 9 LOVE this for Gaga and fully celebrating the monumental era that she had. One of the biggest peaks of the century and in pop music history. 5
BrandNewBrandon Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Ok, I'm cackling at the downvotes on my comment 99% being Taylor stans It's either their fave at #1 or else The definition of being arrogant. 2
Goaty Posted February 9 Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, brenda-walsh said: those are called deluxe editions. GGGB Reloaded and TD Complete Confection each had three new songs, not a whole new 8 track album with a different theme and sonic direction lady gaga even called TFM a new album herself I agree with you, but out of curiosity, do you remember which video / interview Gaga said this? For my own reference later.
Cruel Summer Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, Goaty said: I agree with you, but out of curiosity, do you remember which video / interview Gaga said this? For my own reference later. This is the source associated with that claim on Wikipedia: https://www.mtv.com/news/gi0dc7/lady-gaga-is-honoring-fans-with-cheaper-fame-monster I think she’s mentioned it another time at least, though. 1
brenda-walsh Posted February 9 Posted February 9 5 minutes ago, Goaty said: I agree with you, but out of curiosity, do you remember which video / interview Gaga said this? For my own reference later. this interview. its a really great interview! one of my favorites from gaga, i miss when she was still new 1
DoubleRainbow! Posted February 9 Posted February 9 20 minutes ago, BrandNewBrandon said: I'm pretty sure that one era would still be more than Katy's most successful one. Well two different eras can’t outstream Katy’s most successful one in daily streams so you tell me 2 4
Goaty Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Thanks. So if Gaga herself states in such plain terms that they’re two separate albums, why are we combining them into one era?
Cruel Summer Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Goaty said: Thanks. So if Gaga herself states in such plain terms that they’re two separate albums, why are we combining them into one era? It basically originates from the fact that in a lot of markets, they weren’t available separately for a long time. The US was one of the exception countries where the standalone EP was available, but even there a large portion of TFM’s sales were just absorbed by The Fame because the combined deluxe edition was more popular and more supported by her label (they initially wanted to just do that, no separate release). Notably, the deluxe edition charted as part of The Fame even in the US on the Billboard charts. I’ve always seen the combined sales/units as being a result of the fact that we basically have no clean, easy delineation between the two on charts and in sales reports without kind of screwing over one or the other. 4 1
byzantium Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, Goaty said: why are we combining them into one era? Because you can get a bigger number. 2 1 1 1
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