ClashAndBurn Posted February 8 Posted February 8 7 minutes ago, Espresso said: I haven’t done my research on Jill loathing Kamala that much. Links? The clearest reporting on it has been in the wake of a book detailing the campaign. It's highly likely that there's more, but Jill is pretty private and keeps her thoughts to herself most of the time. The fact that she'd have even said this at all is pretty damning. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/22/jill-biden-kamala-harris-runing-mate-vice-president-book Quote The first lady, Jill Biden, complained about her husband’s choice of Kamala Harris as running mate and now vice-president, according to a new book, asking: “There are millions of people in the United States. Why … do we have to choose the one who attacked Joe?”
Vermillion Posted February 8 Posted February 8 8 minutes ago, DONTYELLATME said: Gretchen Whitmer maybe? Oh wait you mention her. Well she’s a governor not senator I feel a Whitmer/Warnock ticket could do numbers Whitmer and Warnock are more valuable in their current positions than attempting to run. Particularly because of the Michigan GOP being so unhinged and Jon Ossoff likely losing his next race (which he only won initially entirely on Warnock’s coattails). 4 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: The clearest reporting on it has been in the wake of a book detailing the campaign. It's highly likely that there's more, but Jill is pretty private and keeps her thoughts to herself most of the time. The fact that she'd have even said this at all is pretty damning. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/22/jill-biden-kamala-harris-runing-mate-vice-president-book I’d forgotten about this, of course.
DONTYELLATME Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 1 minute ago, Espresso said: Whitmer and Warnock are more valuable in their current positions than attempting to run. Particularly because of the Michigan GOP being so unhinged and Jon Ossoff likely losing his next race (which he only won initially entirely on Warnock’s coattails). I’d forgotten about this, of course. Well a lot of them have poor name recognition so they just have to campaign more. Ehh I would feel like it would be alright if they left their current positions.
Velvet Night Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Reading the report paints a picture that is really not a good look for Biden. Republicans are going to go wild with the report.
If U Seek Amy Posted February 8 Posted February 8 It is wild this exists and the Democrats are just fine with it. I mean yeah still picking his corpse over Trump any day. But wild 1
XAMJ Posted February 8 Posted February 8 this special counsel was lead by republicans FYI...... all a smear campaign lets talk about THAT 3 1 2
beautiful player Posted February 8 Posted February 8 This is essentially a political hit piece. And even if it were true, that shouldn’t be a big deal. The presidency should be a largely ceremonial position. Americans need to stop looking for their hero figure. No one person needs to be running the country. 2 10
ClashAndBurn Posted February 8 Posted February 8 13 minutes ago, DONTYELLATME said: Well a lot of them have poor name recognition so they just have to campaign more. Ehh I would feel like it would be alright if they left their current positions. Whitmer, maybe. Warnock? Absolutely not. His Senate seat is living on borrowed time and he'd need to focus entirely on campaigning to keep it in 2028. The Democrats have an extremely low ceiling on viable Senate seats they can ever hold at once.
DONTYELLATME Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: Whitmer, maybe. Warnock? Absolutely not. His Senate seat is living on borrowed time and he'd need to focus entirely on campaigning to keep it in 2028. The Democrats have an extremely low ceiling on viable Senate seats they can ever hold at once. True, Cory Booker it’s your time to shine! Edited February 8 by DONTYELLATME
Communion Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, beautiful player said: The presidency should be a largely ceremonial position. We've come a long way from "this is the most important election of our lifetime," I see. "The president has no power to do good but ultimate power to do bad so Biden not being good is not relevant to Trump being bad" is horrific politicking. Edited February 9 by Communion
Communion Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) Also I'm not one to admit eating my own words, but @shelven and I were going back and forth over this. I was adamant that Biden's problem was more-so dispassionate Democrat voters, but this very much feels like the final nail in the coffin. Biden is ultimately becoming toxic as a political brand to independent voters in very much the same way Clinton was, for which any policy changes or pivots back to the left after upsetting the base may ultimately have come too late to stop Trump. Progressive policy at a certain point can't undo being widely viewed as having dementia. Edited February 9 by Communion 1
GraceRandolph Posted February 9 Posted February 9 19 minutes ago, Communion said: We've come a long way from "this is the most important election of our lifetime," I see. "The president has no power to do good but ultimate power to do bad so Biden not being good is not relevant to Trump being bad" is horrific politicking. Don’t use too much logic for that user. 2 1
ZeroSuitBritney Posted February 9 Posted February 9 The debates between him and Trump are going to be amazingly hilarious to watch. I can't wait.
shelven Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Communion said: Also I'm not one to admit eating my own words, but @shelven and I were going back and forth over this. I was adamant that Biden's problem was more-so dispassionate Democrat voters, but this very much feels like the final nail in the coffin. Biden is ultimately becoming toxic as a political brand to independent voters in very much the same way Clinton was, for which any policy changes or pivots back to the left after upsetting the base may ultimately have come too late to stop Trump. Progressive policy at a certain point can't undo being widely viewed as having dementia. Yup. It's not that I think his policy choices wouldn't theoretically be a problem for him in a slightly different universe. It's just that his current mental state looks so viscerally awful that it's going to outweigh everything else that otherwise may have been relevant. A lot of Americans will not want to vote for someone who comes across like he has no idea what's going on at any given moment, and frankly, it's hard to blame them The only reason he still has a somewhat decent chance at re-election is because his opponent also consistently comes across like he has no idea what's going on, just in a different way
BrokenMachine Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) 'Conversations are often painfully slow' Edited February 9 by BrokenMachine
GhostBox Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Sounds and reads like republican taking points. Not suprised he said that 🤷 1
shyboi Posted February 9 Posted February 9 5 hours ago, nostalgic said: Not @Espresso replying right after you 1
Sannie Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) Republicans and leftists (same thing at this point) latching onto this lifelong Republican using his position as special counsel to personally attack a president and use his son’s death as a “got’cha” is so ******* gross. Hundreds of people who have met him have come forward to refute this ridiculous claim and there are thousands of videos showing he has a pretty sharp memory and the ability to recall things. Now, that is not to say he does not have memory issues at times as he is 80, but this is nothing more than a hit piece. It is very telling the only thing Republicans/leftists have on Biden is flat-out lies. Also, he literally sat down with this counsel for over five hours in one day to go over everything saying back forty years. Someone with cognitive issues simply cannot do that and would not be allowed to do that by their handlers. Edited February 9 by Sannie 1 2
GhostBox Posted February 9 Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, Sannie said: Republicans and leftists (same thing at this point) latching onto this lifelong Republican using his position as special counsel to personally attack a president and use his son’s death as a “got’cha” is so ******* gross. Hundreds of people who have met him have come forward to refute this ridiculous claim and there are thousands of videos showing he has a pretty sharp memory and the ability to recall things. Now, that is not to say he does not have memory issues at times as he is 80, but this is nothing more than a hit piece. It is very telling the only thing Republicans/leftists have on Biden is flat-out lies. Also, he literally sat down with this counsel for over five hours in one day to go over everything saying back forty years. Someone with cognitive issues simply cannot do that and would not be allowed to do that by their handlers. Literally all of this 👏🏼👏🏼 1
Specter Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 hours ago, DAP said: Feeble or not, it’s time for him to die. Ddd Did you lie. Bad memory can be helpful
GhostBox Posted February 9 Posted February 9 35 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: 'Conversations are often painfully slow' Have you watched Biden any from the past 20 or so years? He loves to tell stories and talk as long as he can 💀 1
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