discussion bigger cultural reset: foldable phones or Apple Vision Pro?

[Asscatchem]

which "revolutionary tech" of the past few years is the bigger cultural reset?

 

 

 

 

[flower moon]

um neither reset anything but foldables will stick around

[punisher]

foldable phones are kinda useless and are just kinda a wow factor

a normal phone would be better to use

[Archetype]

7 minutes ago, punisher said:

foldable phones are kinda useless and are just kinda a wow factor

a normal phone would be better to use

That's not true at all, having a phone that easily fits in your pocket and can unfold into a larger tablet is a legit use case that people will want once the tech becomes cheaper.  It's just that the tech is not quite there yet (but will be within the next two years).

 

@OP Both sort of, but it's more of a slow, gradual reset because like I say above, these types of tech are released as the tech itself is still being developed and improved.  It's way too expensive at launch, but like with folding phones, everything eventually becomes more affordable and accessible.  For the Vision Pro, Apple will need to reach 2k (for upper middle class) in the US for this to be accessibly priced.  For folding phones, we already have the Galaxy Flip at $999, but we need full-scale foldables around $700 for mass adoption. 

 

But specifically regarding the Vision Pro, this is a revolutionary VR headset.  Not something most people will be able to afford, but in terms of the tech and capabilities, it has no competition and they have completely leapfrogged all other existing and soon to be released headsets by several years.

Edited February 4 by Archetype

[playwithme]

 

Foldable phones are extremely ugly and useless. They look like ugly monstrosities.  

 

Apple Vision Pro is a completely different device category that will probably replace smartphones in five-ten years. VR/VR/spatial computing are extremely cool technologies, but they are pretty niche so far. Apple is going to change it, and Meta will also make significant progress in this direction due to tougher competition.   

[NEX]

Both kinda useless, but foldables have a future once the tech improves. I can't see wearing a trash can on your head catching on. 

[Starshine]

After using both, Vision easily.

 

It’s even makes my phone and Mac feel dated.

[playwithme]

26 minutes ago, =NEX= said:

Both kinda useless, but foldables have a future once the tech improves. I can't see wearing a trash can on your head catching on. 

Imagine calling the most cutting-edge device ever a "trash can" 

[bliaz]

Not you looking for the smallest, ugliest picture of a foldable phone for your thread. When you search for "foldable phone" the first results are much nicer 

 

Smart glasses maybe popular in a decade, but not the replacement for phones, at least in the short term, probably an add-on, like the smart watch. When Google (revives) perfects their old announced glasses and other manufacturers enter the market, that's when they will become more accessible to the masses and they are likely to be popular.

Edited February 4 by bliaz
Typo

[Asscatchem]

39 minutes ago, playwithme said:

Imagine calling the most cutting-edge device ever a "trash can" 

they said the same about airpods and look where we are now 

 

23 minutes ago, bliaz said:

Not you looking for the smallest, ugliest picture of a foldable phone for your thread. When you search for "foldable phone" the first results are much nicer 

just postin the reality. 

[Windy Day]

apple vision pro is not available outside of the us so i can’t speak about it but after seeing and testing enough foldable phones i can say that they’re ugly asf. the way you can see the line is visually disgusting and distracting when you use the phone and especially when you watch a video so yea… not that

[Windy Day]

3 minutes ago, Asscatchem said:

they said the same about airpods and look where we are now 

 

just postin the reality. 

lbr. they said the same about every single main apple products lmao. even the mac is constantly getting dragged for no reasons but it’s becoming more and more popular and powerful

[theoghon]

DEFINITELY the vision pro, foldables are NOT as ambitious in terms of their inherent potential for future tech

[Bloo]

Apple Vision Pro could flop out of existence and it’s already more impactful because the precision of the eye tracking technology and the hand gesture control for VR/AR is pretty insane technology. That will make a major impact even if the Vision Pro fails completely at becoming mainstream. Foldable phones have been out for years and have had next to no impact. The technology is straightforward and nowhere near as innovative. 

[Kayseri Mantisi]

Apple Vision Pro is an instant overrated trash tanked flop. Real life reviews are disastrous. Foldable phones are the real cultural reset and it's actually loved by the GP and getting more popular than ever especially in Asian countries. So far, Apple doesn't have any foldable tech and if they do we know who will they copy as always.

 

Real life Apple Vision Pro reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/s/mk5tNwFUAG

 

Also you have the worst picture possible to use for a foldable phone. We know why you did it though, please delete your account.

 

 

[Asscatchem]

Just now, Kayseri Mantisi said:

Apple Vision Pro is an instant overrated trash tanked flop. Real life reviews are disastrous. Foldable phones are the real cultural reset and it's actually loved by the GP and getting more popular than ever especially in Asian countries. So far, Apple doesn't have any foldable tech and if they do we know who will they copy as always.

 

Real life Apple Vision Pro reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/s/mk5tNwFUAG

 

Also you have the worst picture possible to use for a foldable phone. We know why you did it though, please delete your account.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

Apple Vision Pro is an instant overrated trash tanked flop. Real life reviews are disastrous. Foldable phones are the real cultural reset and it's actually loved by the GP and getting more popular than ever especially in Asian countries. So far, Apple doesn't have any foldable tech and if they do we know who will they copy as always.

 

Real life Apple Vision Pro reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/s/mk5tNwFUAG

why did you double post babe?

those gifs are false advertising. where's the wrinkly ass crease?

 

[Kayseri Mantisi]

Just now, Asscatchem said:

why did you double post babe?

wanted you to read it two times so your thick mind can understand 

[EtherealCat]

vision pro, maybe when apple do foldables it will feel like a bigger deal but for now samsungs creased remotes arent it

[Asscatchem]

a cultural reset

 

[playwithme]

12 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

Apple Vision Pro is an instant overrated trash tanked flop. Real life reviews are disastrous. Foldable phones are the real cultural reset and it's actually loved by the GP and getting more popular than ever especially in Asian countries. So far, Apple doesn't have any foldable tech and if they do we know who will they copy as always.

 

Real life Apple Vision Pro reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/s/mk5tNwFUAG

 

Also you have the worst picture possible to use for a foldable phone. We know why you did it though, please delete your account.

 

 

These foldable phones are the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. BlackBerry Bold 9000 from 2008 looks more stylish that this absolute garbage.

 

The reviews are mostly good, and Vision Pro is already a pretty big hit. It will become a major product for Apple in a few years just like AirPods. The price is the main point in all critical reviews because it is not dramatically better than Quest 3 (which costs just $600), but I'm pretty sure that Apple will come up with a less expensive model soon. Anyway, I'm extremely excited about the future of VR and spatial computing now that we have major players like Meta and Apple competing with each other. Do not ever compare VR and AR to some foldable garbage.         

 

Edited February 4 by playwithme

[Kayseri Mantisi]

the ones that are talking about the "crease" are easily either iSheeps or not following technology closely enough outside of Apple. that "crease" is almost impossible to see irl on the latest gen, and it's only getting even better from here. y'all probably tried the first Z Fold at a store years ago and still acting like it's the same and nothing improved. that crease is GONE and you don't notice it. the beyond ******** asscatchem user is posting the worst pictures possible with combining them with the older models that also has a black wallpaper. 

 

 

 

 

 

if you name "crease" the only big issue of foldables (which is a non existent issue) then for Apple Vision Pro we can say:

 

1. Pass through is no where near as good as Apple and some reviews made it out to be, motion blur and grain is always there

 

2. Text/UI elements don’t look sharp

 

3. Everything seems dimmer, colors are washed out and HDR is non-existent

 

4. Looking at high contrast things comes with reflections and pass through also can't process it well

 

5. Eye tracking is frustrating and not developed well enough

 

6. BEYOND uncomfortable

 

7. Less than an hour of battery 

 

8. FOV is terrible and you have to keep moving your head to see things

 

9. "Personas" was a complete lie, you can't see the users eyes outside 95% of the time and when you do, they look crooked, one-eyed, etc etc.

 

10. Nothing is as buttery as they showed.

 

and more. 

Edited February 4 by Kayseri Mantisi

[Starshine]

Foldables are a big flop that has only occupied 1.6%  of the total smartphone marketshare in 2023. After 5+ years with Samsung and Chinese companies efforts, it has gone absolutely no where. It’s been self proclaimed  revolutionary or whatever, but Samsung fell off the #1 spot globally and Apple overtook them in 2023 despite only selling a couple of high end flagships. And with Gen Z preferring iPhones, it’ll get even worse for them. It’s already bad enough that younger South Koreans are choosing Apple and think the company that drives their economy is uncool.  And as the middle class grows globally, we’ll see even more of a shift.

[Windy Day]

32 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

Apple Vision Pro is an instant overrated trash tanked flop. Real life reviews are disastrous. Foldable phones are the real cultural reset and it's actually loved by the GP and getting more popular than ever especially in Asian countries. So far, Apple doesn't have any foldable tech and if they do we know who will they copy as always.

 

Real life Apple Vision Pro reviews: https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/s/mk5tNwFUAG

 

Also you have the worst picture possible to use for a foldable phone. We know why you did it though, please delete your account.

 

 

i live in asia and for young people here you’re basically a loser if you don’t have an iphone lmaooo

 

foldable phones are popular with people above 40 i guess

Edited February 4 by Windy Day

[playwithme]

5 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said:

the ones that are talking about the "crease" are easily either iSheeps or not following technology closely enough outside of Apple. that "crease" is almost impossible to see irl on the latest gen, and it's only getting even better from here. y'all probably tried the first Z Fold at a store years ago and still acting like it's the same and nothing improved. that crease is GONE and you don't notice it. the beyond ******** asscatchem user is posting the worst pictures possible with combining them with the older models that also has a black wallpaper. 

 

 

 

 

 

if you name "crease" the only big issue of foldables (which is a non existent issue) then for Apple Vision Pro we can say:

 

1. Pass through is no where near as good as Apple and some reviews made it out to be, motion blur and grain is always there

 

2. Text/UI elements don’t look sharp

 

3. Everything seems dimmer, colors are washed out and HDR is non-existent

 

4. Looking at high contrast things comes with reflections and pass through also can't process it well

 

5. Eye tracking is frustrating and not developed well enough

 

6. BEYOND uncomfortable

 

7. Less than an hour of battery 

 

8. FOV is terrible and you have to keep moving your head to see things

 

9. Nothing is as buttery as they showed.

 

and more. 

No one cares about these ugly monstrosities. Apple would never release anything as tacky as this, which is why it keeps stomping on Samsung.   

 

1. It is extremely good and almost indistinguishable from reality. Of course, you are going to see some motion blur, but it is a very minor issue. I haven't tried Vision Pro yet, but Quest 3's passthrough looks decent with studio lighting, and Vision Pro's passthrough is miles ahead of Quest 3 based on every review I've read.   

2. Who told you that? Text looks pretty sharp even on my $600 Quest 3.

3. Keep telling yourself that. 

4. You are just lying. 

5. Have you even tried it? 

6. It's very comfortable based on what I've read, and the headset itself looks amazing since it is built of magnesium and carbon fiber in an aluminum enclosure. 

7. More than two hours of battery life. 

8. It's ok-ish, but I was surprised that it was worse than on Quest 3. 

The bottom line is that Vision Pro is not perfect (which is exactly what you would expect from the initial iteration), but it's definitely Apple's new iPhone moment and a big step for VR/AR.     

  

  

[playwithme]

13 minutes ago, Starshine said:

Foldables are a big flop that has only occupied 1.6%  of the total smartphone marketshare in 2023. After 5+ years with Samsung and Chinese companies efforts, it has gone absolutely no where. It’s been self proclaimed  revolutionary or whatever, but Samsung fell off the #1 spot globally and Apple overtook them in 2023 despite only selling a couple of high end flagships. And with Gen Z preferring iPhones, it’ll get even worse for them. It’s already bad enough that younger South Koreans are choosing Apple and think the company that drives their economy is uncool.  And as the middle class grows globally, we’ll see even more of a shift.

I haven't owned a Samsung device in more than a decade. Are these ugly foldables the best thing that they can offer?