Blade Posted January 19 Posted January 19 4 minutes ago, Shelter said: GP not here for solo Gaga anymore Considering she released a 1.15B streamed solo song just 2 years after this would say otherwise Not to mention the single right after Perfect Illusion being a solo song with nearly 800M Spotify streams without TTH playlisting 2 4
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) The song is almost great but her vocals are a little over the top. Diamond Heart or Dancin' in Circles should have been the lead. They probably would have flopped too but We wouldn't be having this conversation every 6 months. Edited January 19 by CoolNebraskaGuy
Blade Posted January 19 Posted January 19 44 minutes ago, TensionThingz said: Terrible lead singles, you name it: Applause Perfect illusion Stupid love Lmao If she'd have released these the story could've been different: Manicure A-Yo Free Woman Applause spent 14 weeks in the Billboard Top 10. Her 4th longest stay behind PF, JD, and BR. 1
Blade Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stunnah said: It's a Lady Gaga song released after 2009. Shallow 2.3B - 2018, Top 30 most streamed song of all time ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 ROM 1B - 2020 MR 784M - 2016 BTW 568M - 2011 Applause 501M - 2013 I think she's fine post 2009. Edited January 19 by Blade 4
Stunnah Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Blade said: Shallow 2.3B - 2018, Top 30 most streamed song of all time ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 ROM 1B - 2020 MR 784M - 2016 BTW 568M - 2011 Applause 501M - 2013 I think she's fine post 2009. Shallow 2.3B - 2018 Fluke ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 Afterglow ROM 1B - 2020 Ariana song MR 784M - 2016 Payola'd BTW 568M - 2011 Fair enough Applause 501M - 2013 Roar did better Edited January 19 by Stunnah 9 12
Kimi Posted January 19 Posted January 19 It doesn’t sound like a single also that kind of music was not popular back then
Jay07 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 Not a great song (but decent compared to some of the stuff on Joanne), really loud, grating vocals and not a package people expected or wanted from Gaga. It's fine to reinvent but who wants Gaga in cutoff jeans and a cowboy hat?
blackoutbritney Posted January 19 Posted January 19 It’s one of her weakest singles to date. She had John Wayne sitting right there! 2
CoolNebraskaGuy Posted January 19 Posted January 19 9 minutes ago, Stunnah said: Shallow 2.3B - 2018 Fluke ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 Afterglow ROM 1B - 2020 Ariana song MR 784M - 2016 Payola'd BTW 568M - 2011 Fair enough Applause 501M - 2013 Roar did better This is reach + reeks of saltiness. You okay? 2
Strawberry Bubble Posted January 19 Posted January 19 It's not a good song, I'm sorry. She can do better
Blade Posted January 19 Posted January 19 17 minutes ago, Stunnah said: Shallow 2.3B - 2018 Fluke ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 Afterglow ROM 1B - 2020 Ariana song MR 784M - 2016 Payola'd BTW 568M - 2011 Fair enough Applause 501M - 2013 Roar did better MR payola where? On streaming? Where it never spent a single second on TTH? Or radio where it didnt go Top 15? 2
Shimenawa Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) I don't get why she recorded that song... She shortened the song so much on the Joanne tour and never performed it again after. As for the floppage, i think the loud vocals turned the GP off and she was coming from Artpop so her image was bad Edited January 19 by Shimenawa
Zefierce Posted January 19 Posted January 19 It just wasn't a good song. Just repetitive screaming with nothing particularly interesting to it besides a key change. I remember the disappointment hearing it for the first time after all the hype, thinking "I guess that was it?"
shookspeare Posted January 19 Posted January 19 no one can convince me that tacky key change is good. sounds like something from a flop eurovision moldova entry 1
JennyWayne Posted January 19 Posted January 19 27 minutes ago, Stunnah said: Shallow 2.3B - 2018 Fluke ARUTW 1.15B - 2018 Afterglow ROM 1B - 2020 Ariana song MR 784M - 2016 Payola'd BTW 568M - 2011 Fair enough Applause 501M - 2013 Roar did better I love how you either 1. Admitted that they were hits after all and that your first statement was wrong 2. Told something that blatantly false (MR hardly had any payola) 3. Told something that no one cares about (literally who cares that Roar was bigger when Applause was a hit in and of itself ) On all of them except ROM The horrors of collabbing with an artist that's currently more popular than you once since 2008 Yet you refuse to double down on your actual opinion 2 1 1
Enzo Posted January 19 Posted January 19 She was lowkey done at that time, it was only after PI that she started to rebuild her career so yeah
Stunnah Posted January 19 Posted January 19 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Blade said: MR payola where? On streaming? Where it never spent a single second on TTH? Or radio where it didnt go Top 15? I didn't say it worked well! But that song limped along for an excessive amount of time on radio. It is her 6th-longest-charting song on the US Mainstream Top 40 and and her 3rd-longest on the US Adult Top 40. Edited January 19 by Stunnah
Ibrahim Posted January 20 Posted January 20 Really, really, really, really, really, really think that "reductive" is more apt for this song than any other of hers. It's soulless, uninspired, and repetitive. Had generative AI existed back then, I wouldn't have been surprised if a fan had generated this song. It's just that generic.
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted January 20 Posted January 20 (edited) It's nothing like the sound that was trendy at the time, back then everyone was into The Chainsmokers-esque music and annoying tropical EDM music, and her vocals in the song are probably too harsh for the basic GP. Edited January 20 by G.U.Y_Del_Rey
JoeAg Posted January 20 Posted January 20 it’s such an undercooked song like as a songwriter, from my perspective, it just feels like it was written in a rush before it could’ve been fully fleshed out. the modulation in the end feels unearned, and the bridge is kind of the worst part so it doesn’t lead in well. I personally love her vocals and the production, but the energy for all that could’ve been allocated to a better song. Joanne has sooo many other songs which would’ve been better as leads. A-Yo, Diamond Heart, John Wayne… all would’ve fared better by far. even Million Reasons (which I also think is honestly a bit undercooked, particularly when compared to the vastly superior piano classic Always Remember Us This Way) would’ve been a better lead. the instagram promo also didn’t fit the track at ALL. like it was rainbow from what i remember and I was expecting a straight banger! but yeah, Joanne was certainly a passion project for Miss Ga and she definitely had to get it out of her system. it’s definitely her era I return to the least, but I understand its significance. I feel like it mostly underperformed because it lacked that Gaga spark of her previous leads. Stupid Love lacks it too, but the rest of Chromatica has it in spades soooo that’s why it’s far more fondly remembered than Joanne
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