NEX Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just read the whole article. At best it was reaching in places concerning Taylor's lyrics and imagery. At worst it was just a bunch of unrelated baloney. And she also called her a liar - tf??
Communion Posted January 6 Posted January 6 58 minutes ago, Communion said: This is literally the Streisand effect. There is a reason why Harry Styles never addressed Larries. She's making an oddly miscalculated move in addressing Gaylors. oh jk, thought this would be some meta-analysis over Gaylors and she'd look silly reacting negatively to a niche columnist writing about the cultural implications of this cohort existing, but the author is actually one herself. Nurse! 1 3
queenoftheclouds Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Cleanromantic said: She said that she's straight a thousand times yet the Gaylors keep going . Apparently they also advocated for her to be put in a conservatorship because she won't come out... The 1989 TV Booklet dragged them Already. Imagine what Rep TV Booklet will have to say about that.
campelo Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I wanna have straight sex At the gay pride parade Just normal sex, nothing too weird A regular hunk with a beard 2
Popular Post Lille Posted January 6 Popular Post Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, queenoftheclouds said: The 1989 TV Booklet dragged them Already. Imagine what Rep TV Booklet will have to say about that. 1 23
readytowind Posted January 6 Posted January 6 She's never been a real LGBT ally. Or a fake one. Get over it. I don't understand why some queer people stan her. To me it's the dumbest thing 1 3
Saintlor Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) I’m totally against people speculating other people’s sexuality, but she can only really be offended by this she thinks there’s something wrong with being gay I doubt a gay person would be bothered or would be offended if people mistook them for being straight, even if it happened often Eg: I can’t imagine Ellen DeGeneres being hurt /offended or even care if someone thought she was straight Only a straight person would hate this because they view LGBT as beneath them, even if it’s in a subconscious way. Edited January 6 by Saintlor 4 3 14
Fama Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Let Miss Swift live her own life in peace. The NYT writer can sit on a cactus.
ATRL Moderator Popular Post Bloo Posted January 6 ATRL Moderator Popular Post Posted January 6 13 minutes ago, Saintlor said: I’m totally against people speculating other people’s sexuality, but she can only really be offended by this she thinks there’s something wrong with being gay I doubt a gay person would be bothered or would be offended if people mistook them for being straight, even if it happened often People often mistake me for being straight. I’ll correct them. And that’s usually how that goes. If these people continued to insist that I was straight and spread rumors about how my hanging out with my female friends is actually me maintaining romantic relationships with them and that I only say I’m gay to get with women sexually, I would be very offended. Similarly, I’m mixed race (Black and White). I’ve had people ask me about my race and it’s a pretty clumsy conversation starter to begin with. But, I’ve had people challenge my race after I tell them what it is. “Are you sure you’re not just middle eastern? What about Brazilian?” Denying and questioning a person’s identity after they’ve told you the answer is always offensive. Taylor has stated her sexual orientation. She openly dates men. There is no reason to write conspiracies that her public relationships are just PR stunts to maintain the mirage that she’s a secret lesbian. Let’s be serious. These aren’t the same thing. 18 5
Erreur2 La Nature Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Gelato said: I am her biggest hater but writing an essay speculating on her sexuality is a bit weird Agreed with this. I don't enjoy Swift but speculating on this subject isn't right no matter about who it is. Whoever wrote this and whoever approved it should be fired. 1
Shimenawa Posted January 6 Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, Saintlor said: I’m totally against people speculating other people’s sexuality, but she can only really be offended by this she thinks there’s something wrong with being gay I doubt a gay person would be bothered or would be offended if people mistook them for being straight, even if it happened often Eg: I can’t imagine Ellen DeGeneres being hurt /offended or even care if someone thought she was straight Only a straight person would hate this because they view LGBT as beneath them, even if it’s in a subconscious way. Does she think being gay is degrading? Or maybe just bad for business?
Maroonx Posted January 6 Posted January 6 must be slow news day and lack of creativity right... smh a mess
Arrows Posted January 6 Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, Saintlor said: Eg: I can’t imagine Ellen DeGeneres being hurt /offended or even care if someone thought she was straight Only a straight person would hate this because they view LGBT as beneath them, even if it’s in a subconscious way. Nah. You don’t think Ellen would be mad if there were tens of thousands who bonded in communities for a decade over conspiracies that Ellen pretended to be gay to sell an image, exploited her wife to hide her real identity and was tragically in love with Jimmy Fallon? And then massive NYT pieces pushing this? It’s completely insane behavior, and I’m gay myself. 5
loveisdead9582 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I’d be a little irritated too if a massive publication of published an article speculating on my sexuality after I’ve publicly spoken on it and have only ever dated the opposite sex. If it wasn’t her, I doubt they’d publish it about any other celeb.
Saintlor Posted January 6 Posted January 6 7 minutes ago, Arrows said: Nah. You don’t think Ellen would be mad if there were tens of thousands who bonded in communities for a decade over conspiracies that Ellen pretended to be gay to sell an image, exploited her wife to hide her real identity and was tragically in love with Jimmy Fallon? And then massive NYT pieces pushing this? It’s completely insane behavior, and I’m gay myself. I really don’t think she would be offended IRL straight people hate it if someone thinks they’re gay/lesbian Gay people are much less offended (if at all) the other way around 1
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 25 minutes ago, readytowind said: She's never been a real LGBT ally. Or a fake one. Get over it. I don't understand why some queer people stan her. To me it's the dumbest thing She has been an ally, as far back as the mid 2010s when she was donating to relief centers for homeless LGBTQ people in her home state of Tennessee at the time. She’s nowhere near as outspoken or provocative in her allyship as Madonna or Gaga have been for example, but that’s fine. She’s a musician not an activist. Her views and beliefs clearly align with equal rights regardless of race, gender, or sexuality (she has EXPLICITLY made this clear) so at that point her music and any corresponding events are safe spaces where queer people don’t have to feel unwelcome. I don’t really get what’s dumb about queer people stanning a female musician, we don’t only need to be fans of people who are setting the city on fire in our honor?? We can be fans of artists who just create art that connects with us. Taylor makes music about unrequited love, I’d say that’s the foundation of her catalogue since her debut album (alongside finding your place in this world and being bold and proud enough to be who you are in spite of the naysayers) and both of those themes, ESPECIALLY unrequited love, connect heavily to the LGBTQ experience. 5
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just now, Saintlor said: I really don’t think she would be offended IRL straight people hate it if someone thinks they’re gay/lesbian Gay people are much less offended (if at all) the other way around The nuance here is that we live in a heteronormative society. Ergo, the de facto assumption most people make is that the majority of people they encounter are heterosexual. Gay people do not take offense to being mistaken for straight because we understand the world we live in is a predominately straight one.
Saintlor Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said: The nuance here is that we live in a heteronormative society. Ergo, the de facto assumption most people make is that the majority of people they encounter are heterosexual. Gay people do not take offense to being mistaken for straight because we understand the world we live in is a predominately straight one. Regardless if there’s nothing wrong with being gay, then there’s no reason for someone to be offended if someone thinks you are 1
Arrows Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Saintlor said: I really don’t think she would be offended IRL straight people hate it if someone thinks they’re gay/lesbian Gay people are much less offended (if at all) the other way around I’m gay. I would be extremely offended if the things I mentioned happened to me. It’s not that people think you’re gay or straight. It’s the theories involving every aquantaince you have, the accusations of being a manipulative liar just for telling the truth. 4 1 1
Arrows Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 minutes ago, Saintlor said: Regardless if there’s nothing wrong with being gay, then there’s no reason for someone to be offended if someone thinks you are 4
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Saintlor said: Regardless if there’s nothing wrong with being gay, then there’s no reason for someone to be offended if someone thinks you are The offense being taken here isn’t with being gay it’s with being made out to be a “cowardly liar” for “hiding her true sexuality”. She has established her sexuality many times, both directly and indirectly, and yet this rumor persists. It’s quite literally calling her integrity into question and blatantly disregarding the sexuality she identifies herself as. Like Bloo mentioned to you, a misidentification is fine. A repetitive neglect to correct your misidentification is not fine. and you most certainly can be offended at being identified incorrectly after identifying yourself. It’s why most transgender people understand being accidentally misgendered at first, but denounce being misgendered intentionally thereafter. There is nothing “wrong” with being another gender in that hypothetical, but it sure is offensive as hell to impose your interpretation of someone else’s identity onto their reality. 4
Strawberry Bubble Posted January 6 Posted January 6 She has the right to be angry, this speculation about her life is getting weird.
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