PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Wonderland said: So she’s mad at her own fans? The “Gaylors” are the delusional ones making all of this happen. Yes? She has tried to nudge that part of the fandom into sanity for awhile now but they just never learn. The 1989 TV prologue was her most recent attempt to get those fans to stop speculating her sexuality but it, yet again, didn’t quell them. 2
prézli Posted January 6 Posted January 6 She's a Trump supporter, doesn't care about gays. NEXT. 2 1 1 1 1
family.guy123 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 It’s seriously disgusting to drag Shawn into this. Whoever made that decision should be publicly outed and shamed. 1 1
Wonderland Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said: Yes? She has tried to nudge that part of the fandom into sanity for awhile now but they just never learn. The 1989 TV prologue was her most recent attempt to get those fans to stop speculating her sexuality but it, yet again, didn’t quell them. Sounds like her history of making uncontrollable, delusional hate trains against her ex boyfriends has finally come back to roost. Funny how when her fans have a delusion centred around her she starts to be bothered and can’t handle it. She didn’t say anything when her fans took it too far with Jake or any of her other exes. 5 1 1 1
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Wonderland said: Sounds like her history of making uncontrollable, delusional hate trains against her ex boyfriends has finally come back to roost. Funny how when her fans have a delusion centred around her she starts to be bothered and can’t handle it. She didn’t say anything when her fans took it too far with Jake or any of her other exes. Except she DOES call those things out. More than you’d know as a non-fan. Most recently pleading with the fans to not send John Mayer hate last summer just because of Dear John TV Y’all speak on things so confidently despite your ignorance sometimes. 7
DemDam92 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Can the gays finally understand that not every straight person is a gay in a closet. And no, ur not gonna be the one gay who will get the straight person to fall in love with. 5
James_Dean Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I'll feel sorry for Taylor once the world apologizes to Shawn #JusticeForMendussy 2
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 22 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: She has addressed it through her prologues and her poetry stating that you can’t assign one individual muse to every single song as if it’s some sort of paternity test. She takes mosaics of her experiences and her emotions and the stories she sees in movies or reads in literature and meshes it all into what we are then peddled as songs about her life. It’s not homophobic to ask people to stop running public think pieces claiming you are lying about your sexuality. Has she slammed her fans as invasive and inappropriate for doing this? Has she issued a press release to f-ing CNN about it? 2 6
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Whoever made that decision should be publicly outed and shamed. That would be Taylor 7
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, awesomepossum said: Has she slammed her fans as invasive and inappropriate for doing this? Has she issued a press release to f-ing CNN about it? Yes, she formally condemned scavenging through her lyrics and trying to deduce the subjects of her song as if it is some kind of paternity test. No she has not issued a press release to CNN, but there is also no indication this is a formal press release from her regarding -this- situation either. We don’t actually know. As of right now this article merely cites an unnamed source and I’m not about to speculate on if that is Tree or if it’s someone closer to Taylor or if it’s Taylor herself or if it’s someone just trying to make a quick buck. I’m not one to speculate but have your way with it! 1
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 "This article wouldn’t have been allowed to be written about Shawn Mendes or any male artist whose sexuality has been questioned by fans." Lmao what a shady b!^@#
Communion Posted January 6 Posted January 6 This is literally the Streisand effect. There is a reason why Harry Styles never addressed Larries. She's making an oddly miscalculated move in addressing Gaylors. 2 2
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Yes, she formally condemned scavenging through her lyrics and trying to deduce the subjects of her song as if it is some kind of paternity test. No she has not issued a press release to CNN, but there is also no indication this is a formal press release from her regarding -this- situation either. We don’t actually know. As of right now this article merely cites an unnamed source and I’m not about to speculate on if that is Tree or if it’s someone closer to Taylor or if it’s Taylor herself or if it’s someone just trying to make a quick buck. I’m not one to speculate but have your way with it! Yeah, you're right. CNN is just running an unverified story that didn't come from her or her associates saying that she's angry about a NYT article. Why the f would they do that? It doesn't matter whether it's a press release or a phone call or a text message. Why would that be of any consequence? Also, no, she has not formally condemned scavenging through her lyrics. And she has not called her fans 'invasive' or 'inappropriate' for doing so. She has said in the past that she purposely puts details in the songs so that people will know who it's about without her actually saying who it is about. Edited January 6 by awesomepossum 4
Mandalore Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Communion said: This is literally the Streisand effect. There is a reason why Harry Styles never addressed Larries. She's making an oddly miscalculated move in addressing Gaylors. It's not like she's trying to hide the fact that she's a straight woman. Styles refuses to label himself, Taylor has repeatedly said she is straight and not a part of the LGBT community. They didn't care when it was just delusional fan garbage but when the New York Times feels emboldened to run a piece based on that. An article calling her a closeted woman and calling for her to come out save the gays because they need heroes. You have to set the record straight through a publication of equal weight. Not People or ET but CNN. Edited January 6 by Mandalore 2
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Mandalore said: It's not like she's trying to hide the fact that she's a straight woman. They didn't care when it was just delusional fan garbage but when the New York Times feels emboldened to run a piece based on that. An article calling her a closeted woman and calling for her to come out save the gays because they need heroes. You have to set the record straight through a publication of equal weight. Not People or ET but CNN. That's not what the article was saying. Also, it's not an article. It's an opinion essay. The byline says, "Whether she is conscious of it or not, Ms. Swift signals to queer people - in our language - that she has some affinity for queer identity." Also, the article starts off talking about how Chely Wright almost killed herself because of the backlash she experienced when she came out. It talks about a country singer who had to cancel a performance at a festival in his home town due to homophobic backlash. And all she got from that was, "Well what about Shawn Mendes?!?!?!" I f-ing can't. 1 4
Mandalore Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 1 minute ago, awesomepossum said: That's not what the article was saying. Also, it's not an article. It's an opinion essay. The byline says, "Whether she is conscious of it or not, Ms. Swift signals to queer people - in our language - that she has some affinity for queer identity." Also, the article starts off talking about how Chely Wright almost killed herself because of the backlash she experienced when she came out. It talks about a country singer who had to cancel a performance at a festival in his home town due to homophobic backlash. And all she got from that was, "Well what about Shawn Mendes?!?!?!" I f-ing can't. No interest in what you have to say about this bud. Go waste someone else's time with your cherry-picking and flat-out lies. Edited January 6 by Mandalore 1
awesomepossum Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Mandalore said: No interest in what you have to say about this bud. Go waste someone else's time with your cherry-picking and flat-out lies. Lol then why did you reply? Sure seems like you're taking an interest 1 1
Wonderland Posted January 6 Posted January 6 41 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Except she DOES call those things out. More than you’d know as a non-fan. Most recently pleading with the fans to not send John Mayer hate last summer just because of Dear John TV Y’all speak on things so confidently despite your ignorance sometimes. Did she stop the fans bringing Jake cutouts to the show to abuse? 1 1
Ryusei Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) I'd be mad too if my relationships were constantly invalidated by strangers who are somehow convinced by made up **** that I once dated former friends. And if she was closeted, which have you ever seen a more hetero woman than taylor swift except that her nails are short so she can play guitar, then it's nobody's business. And for some reason this subset of gay Taylor fans feels the need still to justify stanning her by somehow convincing themselves that she is one of us, which she is not, which is fine. But some people's brains can't seem to handle that and they need a half-assed "I'm bi" coming out. AND to add to that IF she came out it would never be accepted and it would be this whole thing about her just needing publicity or something. Edited January 6 by Ryusei 1
Arrows Posted January 6 Posted January 6 One anonymous comment and the hordes are in here, just waiting to once again drag her for something they assume she said or did Anyway, someone needs to look after the author of that article cause they are clearly not very well 2
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 25 minutes ago, awesomepossum said: ? It doesn't matter whether it's a press release or a phone call or a text message. Why would that be of any consequence? Also, no, she has not formally condemned scavenging through her lyrics. And she has not called her fans 'invasive' or 'inappropriate' for doing so. She has said in the past that she purposely puts details in the songs so that people will know who it's about without her actually saying who it is about. It isn’t of any consequence to me. I’m responding to the person who specifically stated she should put out a press release asking her fans not to bully the men she’s dated (?) as some sort of false equivalency to this CNN report. Reputation era she said something essentially denouncing the practice of assuming we truly know the subjects of her songs. She does leave hints and clues that allude to educated guesses of the origins of some songs but shes always been transparent about the blending of fictional storytelling with her personal experiences. Love Story is Shakespeare rewritten. Fifteen is about her best friend. Speak Now is the fantasy wedding crashing POV of Hayley Williams of Paramore. This all dates back to her first few albums and continues on all the way up to her latest releases. She doesn’t need to directly state “this is invasive and inappropriate” for it to be a formal condemnation. She can request her fans to be kind and not send hate to presumed subjects of her songs upon the release of Speak Now TV and have that count as a form of condemnation. 1 1
PoisonedIvy Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Wonderland said: Did she stop the fans bringing Jake cutouts to the show to abuse? Ah yes, you got me. I forgot Taylor Swift is personally responsible for monitoring the 300 million or so people that casually, regularly, or obsessively consume her music and preventing any immature actions they may carry out on her behalf. Edited January 6 by PoisonedIvy
Arrows Posted January 6 Posted January 6 26 minutes ago, awesomepossum said: "Whether she is conscious of it or not, Ms. Swift signals to queer people - in our language - that she has some affinity for queer identity." Well she’s just not. Thinking otherwise is as completely delusional as believing the earth is flat. 1
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