Tropez Posted January 4 Posted January 4 16 hours ago, Mr.X said: Typical brain dead and xenophobic response, calling others 'shithole country' when it is American power and influence, tourists and middle classes that are liyterally ******* up the country after we got empoverished because of an American-made 'economic crisis' in the first place. And we're the contemporary colonisers? You're not only stupid, have no knowlege of socio-politics of what you talking about, but you're also pretty ******* vile. But don't worry, an uprising will happen one day. And you'll all learn either way. This is rich coming from a Portuguese person. This issue was the fault of your own country. History has proven this. It’s especially funny as your country was the last to leave Africa and fought a deadly war to keep its colonies way into the 1970s! Which is recent. You even had a Chinese colony into the 1999. Much of this website was around when Portugal literally had a colony in China. All the issues in Portugal is the fault of your own government mismanagement. You’re even in the EU. To compare, Ireland was an actual colony of the British, suffered a genocide, was dirt poor for centuries. And it’s one of the wealthiest countries today. Portugal had a head start and look at it compared to Ireland. Same can be said for other EU countries that started worse than Portugal. 1
Mr.X Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tropez said: This is rich coming from a Portuguese person. This issue was the fault of your own country. History has proven this. It’s especially funny as your country was the last to leave Africa and fought a deadly war to keep its colonies way into the 1970s! Which is recent. You even had a Chinese colony into the 1999. Much of this website was around when Portugal literally had a colony in China. All the issues in Portugal is the fault of your own government mismanagement. You’re even in the EU. To compare, Ireland was an actual colony of the British, suffered a genocide, was dirt poor for centuries. And it’s one of the wealthiest countries today. Portugal had a head start and look at it compared to Ireland. Same can be said for other EU countries that started worse than Portugal. Whataboutism at its best. We're talking about gentrification and working class communiteis loosing their homes because of rich tourists and middle-class americans. The very communities from the old colonies residing in Portugal are being pushed out because of American, UK and French communities moving here and stealing our resources, and yes whilst the Portuguese Government is also at fault, this is an issue in most main cities in Europe, forced by the rich nations' contemporary colonisers. So yes, America and American white-middle class and elites need to get the **** out of Portugal, and most countries. End of. Edited January 4 by Mr.X
Mr.X Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, -brian said: Lol I was born in lisboa babe, ironic of you to be calling others idiots while making so many assumptions Blah blah, keep changing the topic to absolve yourself of xenophobia. I KNOW this is a problem. this convo started bc of your xenophobia at a few thousand American expats, and like I said, they are no different than white, privileged Portuguese expats in america. Some do the same **** ur complaining about, you do know that right? But the majority are just seeking a better life. Ur focusing on a few to warrant ur xenophobia.. classic How did I compare myself to those communities? lol ur literally doing that in your post, acting oppressed my point was xenophobia has always been a problem, but you think yours is justified. Like I asked, what happens after your dream of expelling all americans? What do you believe will change? What about the “elites” from China, brazil, Russia, investing in power grid, buying land, airbnbs and fueling the housing crisis? Which immigrants will u target next? The government started this, allowed it, and encouraged it. “I welcome migrants of all kinds, apart from the middle-class and wealthy ones stealing land and the resources .” like.. 'I was born in Lisboa babe' lol ok Brian. Spoken like a true gentrifier comparing wealthy white American gentrifiers to actual migrants looking to move for safety or a better life. Those communities are welcome. Gentrifiers are not and are a big part of why there are so many social issues against migration in Portugal. Only the extreme right-wing and the fascists are happy with the gentrification and American elites here. Everyone else ******* hates you. Should tell you everything you need to know. Get a life, and leave us the **** alone. Edited January 4 by Mr.X
Mr.X Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, -brian said: Lmao my username means I’m lying? 🥱 I promise u were born into more wealth than I was, clown. Why tf do u keep bringing that up as if it’s relevant to your xenophobia? And you wanna talk about “whataboutism” sowpdkd stop being a prick. “Actual migrants” lmao Portuguese ppl are also privileged and wealthy to emigrate by the millions—one of the biggest causes of this. Stop being xenophobic to a few thousand immigrants bc of decades of problems of a corrupt, incompetent government. If they all left tomorrow, their spots would be taken by brazilians, chinese, Russian, etc. get a grip LOL yes keep devoiding actual context when the vast vast majority of migrantion from Portugal happened in the 80s/90s due to financial hardship by the working classes, and yet again in post-2008 financial crash. Poor poor Americans, will anyone ever think of them and their stealing of other country's resources? LOL Please, stop comparing these assholes to actual working communities that migrante due to necessity such as the vast majority of migrants from the Global South in the country. Those are not the same thing and comparing them just shows how deranged you are. Plus, you keep saying 'it is your own fault and your Government schemes' etc. True, the Government opened the digital nomad schemes and consistantly capitulates to North American interests to detriment of our own people. But again, North Americans do take up those schemes as well, so yes they should get as much hate and to blame as those who created the schemes in teh first place. If you take up a tax evasion scheme that ensures you do not pay ANY TAXES whilst profiting and gentrifying the city, whilst everyone else has to - specifically those Global South migrants who dont benefit from such offerings, or the local people who don't either - then you're gonna get hate. You exploit, you get **** thrown at you. Go be butt hurt all you want, Brian. Really, a true Portuguese hero name lol... And no, I dont care what your background is since specially you're here licking USA boot and comparing 'digital nomads' and wealthy gentrifiers to actual migrants. Prick. Edited January 4 by Mr.X
-brian Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Poor poor Americans, will anyone ever think of them and their stealing of other country's resources? LOL Tropez already explained this irony to you lmao. brazilian gold rush, privileged, mass emigration, etc. 46 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Please, stop comparing these assholes to actual working communities that migrante due to necessity such as the vast majority of migrants from the Global South in the country. Those are not the same thing and comparing them just shows how deranged you are. Wow, your literacy is def a bigger problem for you. Lmao. There are “wealthy elites” investing and buying citizenship from all around the world. The problem would exist with or without the 7,000 regular immigrants you’re using as a scapegoat. Thats my point, clown. 46 minutes ago, Mr.X said: Go be butt hurt all you want, Brian. Really, a true Portuguese hero name lol... And no, I dont care what your background is since specially you're here licking USA boot and comparing them to actual migrants. Prick. Spoken like a true xenophobe. Ok, Mr. X, a true Portuguese hero name! Lol i’m defending the regular immigrants I have met who moved for a better life, just like portuguese emigrants continue to do, while u target them and call them disgusting pricks who should be exiled. And bc I’m tired of Portuguese ppl blaming immigrants for problems. Regardless of ethnicity Quote Plus, you keep saying 'it is your own fault and your Government schemes' etc. True There we go! Glad we agree Edited January 4 by -brian
Mr.X Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 49 minutes ago, -brian said: Tropez already explained this irony to you lmao. brazilian gold rush, privileged, mass emigration, etc. Wow, your literacy is def a bigger problem for you. Lmao. There are “wealthy elites” investing and buying citizenship from all around the world. The problem would exist with or without the 7,000 immigrants you’re using as a scapegoat. Thats my point, clown. Spoken like a true xenophobe. Ok, Mr. X, a true Portuguese hero name! Lol i’m defending the regular american immigrants I have met who moved for a better life, just like portuguese emigrants continue to do, while u target them and call them disgusting pricks who should be exiled. There we go! Glad we agree LOL the levels of gaslighting and deflecting here, incredible. I was talking about the American/Global North expacts exploitation of resources, you brought up and compared it to migration from the Global South. And yet you have the gal to tell me that I am wrong and should direct my anger at only my Gov instead of my Gov and all those who use it to exploit me and other migrants in the country? Get some ******* perspective. And read a book. Grow a brain and **** off out of Portugal (if you're in here). Yes, immigrants are being blamed and harassed by a lot of Portuguese people from the far right, the same people who then go on to protect American elites and digital nomads. WHy is that? Don't you have any sense of socio-political contextualisation? Again, I welcome all immigrants. I will never welcome exploitative assholes looking to further enrich themselves whilst gentrifying and stealing resources, though. ALSO, 'expacts' are exactly what USA/UK people who move elsewhere to exploit tax evasion opportunities like to call themselves, precisely because they like to think of themselves as being 'expatiated' to take over an area/own it. Those are the ******* assholes I am talking about. Truly derranged behaviour. Imagine comparing the absolute harrassment and vile xenophobia that migrants from the Global South go through on a daily, with white wealthy Americans exploiting the very people you are trying to compare them to? **** off with that gaslighting you *******. This is the last time I reply to you. Go be a ***** to someone else. Edited January 4 by Mr.X
-brian Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr.X said: LOL the levels of gaslighting and deflecting here, incredible. I was talking about the American/Global North expacts exploitation of resources, you brought up and compared it to migration from the Global South. And yet you have the gal to tell me that I am wrong and should direct my anger at only my Gov instead of my Gov and all those who use it to exploit me and other migrants in the country? Get some ******* perspective. And read a book. Grow a brain and **** off out of Portugal (if you're in here). This is the last time I reply to you. Go be a ***** to someone else. Lmaoo 19 hours ago, -brian said: Who’s deflecting? Look at this psychotic post again. You weren’t talking about all that in depth when I replied to you, you were targeting, being xenophobic, and said *all* american immigrants should **** off. (While pretending portuguese emigrants are saints). I called out your misdirected anger. These issues started before 2020. It’s our government enabling it. And many people from other countries are benefitting from these tax breaks—my point was why are u singling out 1 specific group of immigrants, most of which are regular people that sought a better life, like the portuguese always do? Keep crying and name calling, baby. U kept deflecting, writing paragraphs trying to pretend you know who I am, bc that’s how ur mind works. Should the Portuguese emigrants in mozambique, angola, usa etc **** off too? Quote Grow a brain and **** off out of Portugal (if you're in here) you first Edited January 4 by -brian
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