fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[Pluto6]

10 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Terrible argument seeing as Aespa has had 2 years and 10 months less than SKZ to get streams. SKZ also have 16 comebacks and 7 Japanese eras. Aespa have 7 comebacks and 1 Japanese era.

 

On top of that,

Spotify (9/7/24) - 2.738B

YouTube (6/24/24) - 2.6B

Melon (6/19/24) - 1B

 

Even with outdated numbers, that's over 6.3B+ streams. Explain to me how Genie, YouTube, VIBE, Apple Music, Melon, etc. add less than 400M streams to Aespa's total streams.  

SKZ's albums generally have more streams than aespa's, which is why their overall numbers are higher. It's as simple as that. 

 

17 minutes ago, Odette Violet said:

Also Stray Kids is still irrelevant no matter how their stans tries to shove them down in our throats 

 

aespa vs SKZ in different metrics:

 

Sales - SKZ

streaming - SKZ

touring - SKZ

Social Media (TikTok, Instagram, Twitter etc.) - SKZ

Japan - SKZ

Korea - aespa

But yeah let's go with the narrative that SKZ are irrelevant compared to aespa for some reason

 

 

[Sheep]

4 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

is it a conspiracy? no shade but you can't tell me that you think she doesn't look different these days

 

all of aespa's styling/hair/makeup has become enormously better over the past ~18 months

 

All the actual facial features are identical other than makeup and hair. Those are technically the same lips, nose, eyes, jaw, cheeks, etc, they're just actually trying to make her look her best now.

[youresotoxic]

 

how about we all take a break from the fighting and enjoy this SMASHA 

 

Edited September 8 by youresotoxic

[Pluto6]

Having discussions with SM Sheep are like having discussion with a wall. I'm resting my case I give up, cause some of you constantly go by made up scenarios, just keep TWICE and SKZ out of your funky mouths and we will be good

Edited September 8 by Pluto6

[Sheep]

not playing victim after a multi-day bender saying any and everything to keep it going 

[Odette Violet]

16 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

is it a conspiracy? no shade but you can't tell me that you think she doesn't look different these days

 

So you're implying she have surgeries? I see no problem she looks good. She's just as gorgeous as Lisa with her new nose, no shade btw 

Edited September 8 by Odette Violet

[ItsJustMe.]

5 minutes ago, Sheep said:

all of aespa's styling/hair/makeup has become enormously better over the past ~18 months

 

All the actual facial features are identical other than makeup and hair. Those are technically the same lips, nose, eyes, jaw, cheeks, etc, they're just actually trying to make her look her best now.

her styling has definitely become better but you don't see the new smaller, up turned nose and the relatively huge lips? 

 

[ItsJustMe.]

1 minute ago, Odette Violet said:

So you're implying she have surgeries? I see no problem she looks good. She's just as gorgeous as Lisa with her new nose, no shade btw 

yes lisa's new nose looks good, we can just be honest about it

getting PS/filler in korea is like going to the dentist in the west 

[hallucinate]

 

Edited September 8 by hallucinate

[ItsJustMe.]

Just now, hallucinate said:

finally 

[Sheep]

6 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

her styling has definitely become better but you don't see the new smaller, up turned nose and the relatively huge lips? 

 

oh she's definitely had work done since debut, but that face has been locked in since at least 2022

 

idc about surgery, its her body, I'm annoyed that Giselle has always been beautiful and now that SM isn't actively working against that, its widely credited only to the work she's had done.

Edited September 8 by Sheep

[ItsJustMe.]

talking about lisa I really hope she's going all out for the VMAs coz the lack of promo is killing me 

[Odette Violet]

1 minute ago, ItsJustMe. said:

yes lisa's new nose looks good, we can just be honest about it

getting PS/filler in korea is like going to the dentist in the west 

 the dentist in question = / = botox, fillers, buccal fat surgeries etc. 

 

[thirdward]

6 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said:

talking about lisa I really hope she's going all out for the VMAs coz the lack of promo is killing me 

I think she's filming white lotus 

[Pluto6]

20 minutes ago, Sheep said:

not playing victim after a multi-day bender saying any and everything to keep it going 

You're constantly trying to paint me as this person who constantly start fights with people in here and it's not working sweetie. It's obvious that you and your minion love to have discussions with me in here, which I don't mind as long as we are being respectful towards each other and the Kpop groups we are discussing.

 

This whole aespa vs SKZ started because of your minion coming for SKZ for no reason by using aespa, and I just responded to him. The first thing I did was pointing out how he was trying to start a fanwar for no reason:

 

13 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

Not you randomly trying to start a SKZ vs aespa fanwar 

 

 

Edited September 8 by Pluto6

[CherieMoon]

Tzuyu is so gorgeous but so boring... Run Away is so forgettable and uneventful, couldn't they give us something different? 

I swear they've been giving the best singles to Nayonce and the production of those mvs like wow the difference of effort. 

[Odette Violet]

 

 

everyone are perched for their 20th anniversary. 2027 can't come soon enough  @Gorjesspazze9

 

 

 

[Sheep]

9 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

You're constantly trying to paint me as this person who constantly start fights with people in here and it's not working sweetie. It's obvious that you and your minion love to have discussions with me in here, which I don't mind as long as we are being respectful towards each other and the Kpop groups we are discussing.

This whole aespa vs SKZ started because of your minion coming for SKZ for no reason by using aespa, and I just responded to him. I even pointed how he was trying to start a fight fanwar for no reason as the first thing:

 

 

 

"you and your minion" "we are being respectful"

 

Notice how you quoted your response and not the original post, because the original post was just posting the(then barely published) Billboard chart and making a comment about how certain users constantly downplay aespa, not their fault or anybody else's that it struck a nerve and you started a 2nd jihad against this imaginary group of users before even finishing the other one you had going on. I'm not painting you as anything, your actions are painting you in a certain way and have since you registered this account.

 

When I don't come in to clock you, you do this for days on end to the point that it kills all other thread activity until somebody shuts you up, because you make browsing and posting in this thread miserable for everybody except some 35 year old burnout losers who are still butthurt about losing fanwars on OH a decade ago. Be realistic.

Edited September 8 by Sheep

[BlackAura]

18 minutes ago, hallucinate said:

 

Ahh, the OG blueprint is coming.....

[Pluto6]

1 minute ago, Sheep said:

"you and your minion" "we are being respectful"

 

Notice how you quoted your response and not the original post, because the original post was just posting the(then barely published) Billboard chart and making a comment about how certain users constantly downplay aespa, not their fault or anybody else's that it struck a nerve and you started a 2nd jihad against this imaginary group of users before even finishing the other one you had going on. I'm not painting you as anything, your actions are painting you in a certain way and have since you registered this account.

The gaslighting yikes 

Uhm didn't you see how your minion specifically separated and pointed out SKZ in that post? 

[JO1s]

Saying someone's playing the victim then someone saying they're going on a Jihad... It's not that serious... 

[Pluto6]

Anyways shout out to @Sheep, like the amount of minions he is always able to summon in here and gang up on users, like even I can't hate on that, since those minions have to listen to what their boss says right? 

[Sheep]

3 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

The gaslighting yikes 

Uhm didn't you see how your minion specifically separated and pointed out SKZ in that post? 

would you like to quote the post you're talking about instead of trying to massage the facts in your favor(but I'm the gaslighter here ) or would you like to shut up? Only an idiot would be sensitive enough to go on a day-long rampage over the post in question. You do downplay aespa constantly, and they are charting higher with a months old song, even outside of Korea, where you claim groups you don't like are only relevant.

 

Calling somebody a minion is rude as **** btw since you didn't take the hint last time, you seem very challenged at picking up on some things.

[Mattheo]

Over fuckass kpop and shitposting on a music forum mind you

[Sheep]

6 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Anyways shout out to @Sheep, like the amount of minions he is always able to summon in here and gang up on users, like even I can't hate on that, since those minions have to listen to what their boss says right? 

mind you this is the user who always manages to have the same 3 discord users pop up in the thread to echo the exact same arguments(look above this post) when he's losing. Every attempted drag you come up with is projection, if there were any "minions" involved I would have immediately wacked you for coming for legend Choi Sooyoung and wacked you again once you started going at it with my friend, instead of stepping in hours later when I was just normally reading the thread.

Edited September 8 by Sheep