fan base K-Pop Thread: Taeyeon Sick of SM, Blasts Their Mismanagement

[Veiko]

9 minutes ago, TheCal said:

 

Hyein ateeeeee

 

 

Best solo for now while she was recovering she was also really training those vocals. She sounds so confident 

[Comedor]

3 hours ago, Veiko said:

Ok I'm digging into Taeyeon's discography and this are some incredible songs for me! Her music is nothing like snsd it feels way more mature and western somehow? 
 

yeah some songs are even better in live 

 

Im thinking in watching more begin again videos after watching Adele's cover and four seasons I love live bands but I still need to listen her first album and all the minis 

 

Taste jumped out. Siren and Gravity are pop perfection. One Day is another career highlight. 
 

 

[hétérosexuelle]

LISA is giving us the MPG global IDOL we deserve

 

 

oh the TEASER 

[Pluto6]

11 hours ago, MonsterNavy said:

also, its funny when twice stans and blonks are fighting oncez never use sales or streams but they are using it with red velvet stans   

 

 

Why do you constantly bring random Twitter beefs in here?  And all of this is not unprovoked when Reveluvs have been constantly attacking TWICE on Twitter. 
 

And we get it, BP are the biggest Kpop gg of all time, nobody is denying that?? 
 

However let's not act like TWICE aren't the best selling Kpop gg of all time and arguably the Kpop gg with the most hits in Korea and Japan 
 

10 hours ago, OrgVisual said:

At least RV is charting somewhere (Melon)

Sit this one out

 

 

8 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

I can post a dozen receipts to prove this but I'm at work. Obviously WG & Psy contributed to Hallyu. Snsd did more with thier Madision Sauare garden performance for Hallyu then WG and thier English flop albums and collabs with Akon and the Jonas Brothers

Girl we are talking about the first breakthrough, which was when Wonder girls was the first Korean act that managed to chart on Hot 100 and promote in the US back in 2008, which was 3 years before SNSD decided to promote in the US. PSY was the next Kpop act to chart, which was 4 years later.
It literally took 10 years for the next gg to chart on Hot 100 after Wonder Girls, which was BP in 2018. There's nothing that SNSD did in the US that can compete with that.
You're also acting like SNSD performed at Madison Square Garden alone, when it was literally a SMTOWM concert  And you're gagging over talk show performances when Wonder Girls did it before SNSD as well 

 

But PSY eclipsed them both and deserves to be credited more. 

 

7 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

In 5 years BlackPink and twice will be having thier legacy diminished by younger fans that will say thier impact and legacy is inflated and overhyped. It's already happening on twitter. The Boys Era was way more impactful for Kpop globally then Nobody or 2 Diffrent tears era. This shouldn't even be a debate. 

We don't know what the future holds, however I feel like The big 3 (BP, TWICE and BTS) legacy will be untouched for a very long time. 

 

6 hours ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Also about the Psy thing. SNSD & Smtown literally sold out Madison Square garden & LA concerts a year before Gangnam style existed  I'm not taking away what Wonder girls did. I was literally a fan of theirs as well during the time. But if we compare the actual impact and repercussions of what they did, it's night and day. Nobody is talking about thier Nickelodeon interviews compared to SNSD iconic letterman night show performance. Nobody even remembers Like Money but I Got a Boy YouTube VMA award is Remember by thousands hardcore Belibers and Directioners from that time. Gee & I got a Boy Music videos were the biggest Music videos of the time behind Gangnam style and 2Ne1 videos globally. Especially in the west. Only big bang was bigger in Europe than SNSD pre-2014. SNSD was breaking barriers. WG wishes. It's not just about who is first, cuz then we can go back to Boa and her stamp on Japan and America. SM was literally known for breaking out of Korea even before JYP with DBSK & BoA dominating SEA & Japan. SM just started to suck at thier expansion in 3rd Gen when they fumbled EXO 

Again, Wonder Girls charted on Hot 100 literally 4 years before Gangnam Style in an era where people barely knew what Kpop was. It took 10 years for the next Kpop gg to chart on Hot 100 which was Blackpink with D4
 

When it comes to the US:

In short, Wonder Girls were the first to have their little US breakthrough and break down barriers, but PSY was the first to official breakthrough with bigger impact

[Pluto6]

2 hours ago, Pluto6 said:

Imma let you slide this time and pretend that I can't read today

I know this post aged badly, but forgive me @Gorjesspazze9, since I suddenly got my reading skills back and saw the things y'all wrote, and I had to end some of you

Edited June 26 by Pluto6

[Veiko]

Even Minji is singing in her solo 

 

 

[Veiko]

9 minutes ago, Comedor said:

Taste jumped out. Siren and Gravity are pop perfection. One Day is another career highlight. 
 

 

That's a good one but Circus and All Night Long are the highlights for me. I think I like more the b sides of her minis and the tittle tracks of the albums 

[Dialamba]

Lisa the thai legend that you are

[Kety]

3 hours ago, Veiko said:

Ok I'm digging into Taeyeon's discography and this are some incredible songs for me! Her music is nothing like snsd it feels way more mature and western somehow? 
 

yeah some songs are even better in live 

 

Im thinking in watching more begin again videos after watching Adele's cover and four seasons I love live bands but I still need to listen her first album and all the minis 

 

How lucky you're to discover her at this stage of her career she's the best korean soloist for me and her lives usually better than recorded version especially those performances from 2017-2020

[Spears_Stan]

People are complaining online about how little solo screen time joy, wendy and yeri had compared to irene and seulgi, i wonder if this is related to contract renewal negotiation still on going or they decided to leave and SM minimized their visibility, SM is an evil company

[newaespa]

suddenly reminded that certain person using newjeans to attack aespa not long ago

 

and now saying BUT BUT BUT RED VELVET STANS STARTED THE ARGUMENT!!!!!!! 

 

very very weird and suspicious 

[Pluto6]

Truly the prettiest group ever 

[Antunes]

good music always prevails 

 

[MonsterNavy]

28 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

Why do you constantly bring random Twitter beefs in here?  And all of this is not unprovoked when Reveluvs have been constantly attacking TWICE on Twitter. 
 

And we get it, BP are the biggest Kpop gg of all time, nobody is denying that?? 
 

However let's not act like TWICE aren't the best selling Kpop gg of all time and arguably the Kpop gg with the most hits in Korea and Japan 

what is this hunty? I never said anything about that in my posts earlier  

[hallucinate]

the mv is going to be a collapse 

[MusicFan98]

@Veiko

 

 

[Darkling]

14 hours ago, 1qazx said:

wakeone has been promoting produce group in japan since 2018. their whole purpose since izone was to sell in japan. 

Girl all this mental gymnastics, as if every wakeone group was the same and had the same public and appeal   The way some of you defend certain groups I hope their company gives you a check or something because I swear I cannot understand putting so much effort into this

 

Edited June 26 by Darkling

[MonsterNavy]

2 days until her real debut

 

EDIT: looking at the teasers side by side look how she ate her YG solo 

 

 

 

Edited June 26 by MonsterNavy

[MusicFan98]

Kinda triggered, are the RV girlies renewing or did SM got rid of them? I highkey need them to stay together and comeback yearly with full albums, while Aespa sees the last days of full promotion for their group before SMNGG kicks in, can we get rid of NCT though. Just a thought.

[Pluto6]

10 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said:

what is this hunty? I never said anything about that in my posts earlier  

You're literally brought BP into a discussion that had nothing to do with them in a tweet that was between Onces and Reveluvs?

 

You randomly claiming that that Onces never bring up numbers when it comes to fanwars with Blinks, is literally you circlejerking and want to bring up how BP are bigger than TWICE etc. like you constantly do. I see right through you 

Edited June 26 by Pluto6

[MonsterNavy]

2 minutes ago, Pluto6 said:

You're literally brought BP into a discussion that had nothing to do with them in a tweet that was between Onces and Reveluvs?

 

You randomly claiming that that Onces never bring up numbers when it comes to fanwars with Blinks, is literally you circlejerking and want to bring up how BP are bigger than TWICE etc. like you constantly do
 

babes I just find it funny that oncez never uses the streams and sales argument when they're fighting with blonks but uses it nonstop with red velvet stans. that's it

[Pluto6]

6 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

Can we get rid of NCT though. Just a thought.

Help, weren't you one of the main NCT stans in here ? 
 

[MonsterNavy]

7 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

Kinda triggered, are the RV girlies renewing or did SM got rid of them? I highkey need them to stay together and comeback yearly with full albums, while Aespa sees the last days of full promotion for their group before SMNGG kicks in, can we get rid of NCT though. Just a thought.

never

[newaespa]

 

 

Considering some of these girl's debut stream, Cosmic isn't that bad

 

mess at that Wonyoung-carried group only doing 767k  

IT girl they said, but where?

 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Certified Street Classic Diss Record  @Pluto6 @elevate @youresotoxic

lyrics aka the Receipts 

Spoiler

What is with these Western Validation Stan's?

They want to be accepted by Koreans so bad

but don't check the facts

and just start saying ****.

As if Boa didn't sell a Million

in Japan before thier was even dance practice rooms to film them in.

Like Boa wasn't the first Kpop artist to chart an album on Billboard 200.

In 2002 SM was the Top Exported Kpop Company for tourist. GD was still a Trainee, before JYP had rain to sell.

He was flopping with Noel and YG was becoming a shell of his former self.

Ironic how Seven was thier first help onto american shelves. But let's be real, BET said no and he had to high tail out of SoHo.

That Ninja Movie didn't do so well, and by the time he came home Big Bang stole the show. Now let's get to the truth. Since no one else blew, or had impact to make a movement. SM filled those shoes and Doubled the profit.

BoA built the culture before your faves could even count to seven. She was right there with Britney Spears before Toxic. TVXQ was breaking Elton John records before they split. Check the records.

SMTOWN had over 15 thousand in the stands. From L.A to Madison Square Garden. Even in France. Before Gangnam style existed. The first Asian tour in America that sold over a Milli,

and made history by breaking box office records And it was filmed in 3D. Yeah, we were literally in Movie theaters

in Los Angeles. So let's get to this,

and remind these kids what SM did without social media gimmicks

 

I'm bringing back Recipts like a Karen.

Where's the manager, cuz I'm swearin

the inflation is ridiculous

Why am I paying attention to all the critics

About 10 year old facts

you can google in seconds

Why people thinking SNSD wasn't really that *****?

Yall think I'm making this up?

When I say they the Madonna of Kpop

papa don't preach at us

nah, Unc

I'm cursing out the industry and punks

And all these illiterate teens

that using modern metrics

to justify success in these streets.

Like baby monsters that think

watching a MV on repeat means anything

Sorry streams didn't exist then

Back when YouTube meant

more than just some clicks

There wasn't as many bots or ads

We actually had to mass buy that

Or steal it off sites with viruses

Like plastic bags that stick

Ripped 10 versions of I got a boy

I got 9 joys still under my bed

And a vibrator aimed at these haters heads

I swear I'll pop off

like Joy in red velvet

and make a photocard for Cosmic

Just like SM invented, I'm Minted

Like a magazine I collected

DBSK & SNSD,

pay homage to royalty

Or I'm rolling out retirement, Homie

With Stan's that beef like it's 2014

I been slowly waiting for the moment

To expose the jealous and ignorant Newbies

 

So let's get it bro

Who you know won the International 1999 MTV award?

Oh that's right H.O.T did

And guess who Performed with Micheal Jackson?

H.O.T and S.E.S again

Don't even get me started on BoA's contributions

and I haven't even touched the biggest Legends Pinkprint

Billboard themselves even labeled girls generation as the top Kpop girl group from 2007-2017

I don't mean to be mean,

but they said it not me

Wanna talk tours? Ok then let's keep it GG

Over half a million attendees and they never even left Asian boundaries

Let's talk Legacy,

CNN, Pitchfork and Rolling Stones magazines

From Gee to Mr. Taxi,

They been Driving weebs crazy

Why you think they got CF's from LG?

Why you think Gee was the first single since 1980 to break into Oricon top 3?

They were even getting airplay in the United States and Had Snoop in the hizzy

Thats how they peaked at 17

on billboard with the boys Maxi

And the girls debuted on Billboard 200 twice  if you wanna take it there homie

I'll bringing out the tights

Mr.Mr about to twinkle twinkle

Cuz these stars are like pringles

Stacking up singles like hard cans

And reminding you every chance we can

Cuz we sheep stay salty

And we rolling deeper then NCT's Discography

And you girlies wonder why nobody

Goes harder than GG?

We brought the boys out of the East

And we got the girls on the west ready to leap

Kwangya about to get deleted

Cuz you living in a matrix if you don't think we made it

Now tell your manager to keep dreaming

Cuz I aint paying for ****

I want a refund and I'm never coming back to this establishment

 

Edited June 26 by Gorjesspazze9