Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 7 minutes ago, Sheep said: Oh King Taegod The only other SNSD related idol to achieve both a Circle #1 album and Melon #1 single...is Jessica. And she is still selling 50,000+ in 2023. Despite remaining as members of SNSD, others...weren't so lucky!
Sheep Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Zack said: Considering even you've been driven to hate her enough to attack everything about her, even the other day downvoting posts about her attending a charity cancer event, I always wonder why sones get *so* bothered about a member who they believe SNSD no longer needs You spent an entire day going through years of the KTRL archives to hunt for and downvote posts of mine about Jessica, including ones that were made after the reputation system was brought back that you responded to at that time. I was downvoting you back, not taking a stand against a cancer charity. You can't engage in these back and forths in good faith without resorting to pedantic rants about semantics or trying to turn a fanwar into some deep morality issue, because at the core of it beneath the shady and coarse language and petty joking, there's TRUTH behind what I'm saying that you can't bring yourself to directly address. 14 minutes ago, Zack said: Even when Bright was released, sones fabricated that ridiculous lie about her "outing Seohyun" in the book and spread it on social media. This was down to language barrier issues. I even thought she was alleging Seohyun was a homosexual at first, this is not something being spread in 2024. 14 minutes ago, Zack said: The sones who quickly and actively turned on her and spread the lies and fake articles about her and attacked her across SNS even now. Jessica turned on SNSD before sone turned on her. For most of us who are capable of critical thinking and weren't sica akgaes before 9/30, it's 8 vs 1 and Jessica's aggression towards SNSD would naturally turn a large portion of the base against her, whether she was a former member or just a random solo idol from a different company that never debuted with them. Edited October 19 by Sheep
40_L3VE Posted October 19 Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, Bewitched said: Am I the only one who doesn't like ATP.? ATP? We don't know her.
Sheep Posted October 19 Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, Zack said: The only other SNSD related idol to achieve both a Circle #1 album and Melon #1 single...is Jessica. And she is still selling 50,000+ in 2023. Despite remaining as members of SNSD, others...weren't so lucky! Not the 2017 tweets. J-anon are never beating the stuck in the last decade accusations.
Odette Violet Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) not her continuously smashing in the middle of comebacks and digimons. Supernova's successor indeed, I'm scared for whiplash now Edited October 19 by Odette Violet 2
Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Just now, Sheep said: You spent an entire day going through years of the KTRL archives to hunt for and downvote posts of mine about Jessica, including ones that were made after the reputation system was brought back that you responded to at that time. I was downvoting you back, not taking a stand against a cancer charity. You can't engage in these back and forths in good faith without resorting to pedantic rants about semantics or trying to turn a fanwar into some deep morality issue. No you downvoted posts first (one about me asking another user to leave Jessica out of something unrelated) and then you engaged actively in downvoting more posts. And THEN you tried to turn it on me by posting about it off-topic in this thread. Let's keep that 100%. There was no need to start downvoting posts about her supporting charitable causes, nor did you even apologize for how insensitive that could come across. Just now, Sheep said: This was down to language barrier issues. I even thought she was alleging Seohyun was a homosexual at first, this is not something being spread in 2024. The book was published directly in English. There was no language barrier issue. Nor is there any scene or extract of the book that could even be loosely interpreted as Seohyun being "outed". It was an out and out lie. Just now, Sheep said: Jessica turned on SNSD before sone turned on her. For most of us who are capable of critical thinking and weren't sica akgaes before 9/30, it's 8 vs 1 and Jessica's aggression towards SNSD would naturally turn a large portion of the base against her, whether she was a former member or just a random solo idol from a different company that never debuted with them. Jessica never turned on SNSD. She called out the company and members for screwing her over, absolutely. But in that very same moment, she clearly stated her "priority was to love and serve as a member of Girls' Generation". It was her life's work just as much as the other members. Calling out SM was a risk with consequences, but she did what she had to do to get her truth out there, before it was eventually buried and sones like you ate up the lies fed by SM.
Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1 minute ago, Sheep said: Not the 2017 tweets. J-anon are never beating the stuck in the last decade accusations. There were no stats from this decade to post for the other solos. Unless you know of anyone else in SNSD aside from Taeyawn selling 50,000+ albums and selling out 4,000+ seat arenas as a solo in 2024? Do enlighten us all!
Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 5 minutes ago, Odette Violet said: not her continuously smashing in the middle of comebacks and digimons. Supernova's successor indeed, I'm scared for whiplash now Not queen KARINA holding on despite Jennie and Rosé's comebacks! UP truly living up to its name!
Sheep Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Zack said: No you downvoted posts first (one about me asking another user to leave Jessica out of something unrelated) and then you engaged actively in downvoting more posts. And THEN you tried to turn it on me by posting about it off-topic in this thread. Let's keep that 100%. I downvoted a couple of posts from that day that I sincerely disagreed with and that I thought were in poor taste. You then went searching through the entire forum to find something topical to downvote back. 12 minutes ago, Zack said: There was no need to start downvoting posts about her supporting charitable causes, nor did you even apologize for how insensitive that could come across. Unless you're a woman with cancer in Korea I feel no need to apologize to you, I know what the intent was behind that downvote and so do you, you're trying to make it into something else and just like SNSD shouldn't be forced to respond to Sica's lies, I'm not taking the bait. 12 minutes ago, Zack said: The book was published directly in English. There was no language barrier issue. Nor is there any scene or extract of the book that could even be loosely interpreted as Seohyun being "outed". It was an out and out lie. and Sone is a global fanbase and the lie spread like wildfire through non-english speaking twitter. Plus there's the fact that the book is full of other ludicrous claims and that out of context, it really can be read like that. Being a homosexual isn't exactly more salacious than drugging somebody who is more talented and harder working than you so that you look better is obscene. Large portions of the books gave wattpad fanfic 12 minutes ago, Zack said: Jessica never turned on SNSD. She called out the company and members for screwing her over, absolutely. But in that very same moment, she clearly stated her "priority was to love and serve as a member of Girls' Generation". It was her life's work just as much as the other members. Calling out SM was a risk with consequences, but she did what she had to do to get her truth out there, before it was eventually buried and sones like you ate up the lies fed by SM. Jessica was the one who immediately pointed fingers at SNSD on Weibo before any statement was made by SM or the girls. You're making this up. This will be the last response, I'm not going to derail the thread for hours correcting your lies again. Edited October 19 by Sheep
Mel. Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bewitched said: Am I the only one who doesn't like ATP.? Yes. and it's APT, gurl Edited October 19 by Mel. 1
Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Just now, Sheep said: I downvoted a couple of posts from that day that I sincerely disagreed with and that I thought were in poor taste. You then went searching through the entire forum to find something topical to downvote back. None of the posts you downvoted were in poor taste. You were just trolling. Just now, Sheep said: Unless you're a woman with cancer in Korea I feel no need to apologize to you, I know what the intent was behind that downvote and so do you, you're trying to make it into something else and just like SNSD shouldn't be forced to respond to Sica's lies, I'm not taking the bait. Disgusting comment to be honest. Raising awareness of important causes is not in "poor taste" there was no need to downvote it. And you have zero idea of the significance of it to me personally to be making that judgement. I do think you need to work on how your posts come across. I've seen you making insensitive posts about other members' race and/or religion recently too. Maybe you should consider whether all of that is worth it, over a forum thread about K-Pop Just now, Sheep said: and Sone is a global fanbase and the lie spread like wildfire through spanish speaking twitter. Plus there's the fact that the book is full of other ludicrous claims and that out of context, it really can be read like that. Being a homosexual isn't exactly more salacious than drugging somebody who is more talented and harder working than you so that you look better. It's just a lie. There is no excuse. The lies were spread with zero reference to any page of the book. Anyone who read it knew there was no such claim made. It was fabricated by the fandom. No ifs or buts about it. Just now, Sheep said: Jessica who was the one who immediately pointed fingers at SNSD on Weibo before any statement was made by SM or the girls. You're making this up. SM was already informing SNSD fansites and communities falsely that she was "sick" and not coming to the Shenzhen fanmeeting. This was spreading in China. So she took action and posted her truth. Just now, Sheep said: This will be the last response, I'm not going to derail the thread for hours correcting your lies again. Wonderful. And maybe take the time to reflect on the content of your posts, particularly where Jessica is concerned. 2
Bewitched Posted October 19 Posted October 19 7 minutes ago, Mel. said: Yes. and it's APT, gurl Spoiler
Zack Posted October 19 Posted October 19 This smash does kinda need to slow down a little now...let's let Whiplash breathe next week queen
Sheep Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Zack said: None of the posts you downvoted were in poor taste. You were just trolling. Disgusting comment to be honest. Raising awareness of important causes is not in "poor taste" there was no need to downvote it. And you have zero idea of the significance of it to me personally to be making that judgement. I do think you need to work on how your posts come across. I've seen you making insensitive posts about other members' race and/or religion recently too. Maybe you should consider whether all of that is worth it, over a forum thread about K-Pop It's just a lie. There is no excuse. The lies were spread with zero reference to any page of the book. Anyone who read it knew there was no such claim made. It was fabricated by the fandom. No ifs or buts about it. SM was already informing SNSD fansites and communities falsely that she was "sick" and not coming to the Shenzhen fanmeeting. This was spreading in China. So she took action and posted her truth. Wonderful. And maybe take the time to reflect on the content of your posts, particularly where Jessica is concerned. @Ryan still waiting on that statement about the previously mishandled racism/islamophobia allegations against me. anti-sone are still trying to use it as ammunition. Should have been a dead issue by now but here you can see a user not denying stalking my profile AND making these extremely offensive claims about me that are evidently untrue given my presence on the forum. I'm not going to be responding to this wall of lies directly but some support regarding that specifically would be appreciated, especially since the last time it was brought up an army of duplicate accounts of anti-sone users(one of which is confirmed to be on their nth ATRL account and is banned from this thread, another one of which has been in the discord server in question for 3+ years and has posted in here admitting that, but in all other situations says they first started using the K-Pop base this year) marched in here from their discord server to mass report me. Thank you. It's very tiring that people in here are allowed to dishonestly wield these personal attacks against me over and over and over again and turn every disagreement into labelling me some kind of bigot. Like can't we at least focus on the fact that I'm a messy cvnt and not invent ****? Edited October 19 by Sheep
newaespa Posted October 19 Posted October 19 APT is such a big grower Might be on par with MANTRA, or even slightly better Korean Avril Lavigne did that
newaespa Posted October 19 Posted October 19 1. UP 2. APT 4. MANTRA so happy talented beautiful girls are SMASHING 91. CRAZY this heavily promoted song with huge ass playlisting though.... 1 4
Sheep Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 minutes ago, newaespa said: 1. UP 2. APT 4. MANTRA so happy talented beautiful girls are SMASHING 91. CRAZY this heavily promoted song with huge ass playlisting though.... 1
naomi24 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) They are coming for that #1 Edited October 19 by naomi24 3
Jenlisa Posted October 19 Posted October 19 I can't believe the Jessica topic still drags every other month when I'm lurking the thread. I can never hate a Jung sister though 38 minutes ago, newaespa said: 1. UP 2. APT 4. MANTRA so happy talented beautiful girls are SMASHING 91. CRAZY this heavily promoted song with huge ass playlisting though.... All bangers and I'm so happy for them and for myself to have great music 52 minutes ago, Zack said: This smash does kinda need to slow down a little now...let's let Whiplash breathe next week queen maybe they weren't expecting it to smash like that? Or for that long? Be nice if that'd push them to give her a solo album
starstruckaj Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) If Rosé promotes on music shows and manages to drag Bruno with ha, it might be over for Karinashe's slayage I definitely think she's get an official solo rollout once they get the new GG up and promoting next year. Maybe they'll finally give us Menagerie on her first mini Edited October 19 by starstruckaj
youresotoxic Posted October 19 Posted October 19 5 hours ago, DelRey said: It's Taeyong, @youresotoxic and me vs the world. Sticker is art i'll defend that song until the day I die... truly one of the best kpop songs ever 1
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