OrgVisual Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 4 hours ago, Nido said: Also to continue my point. I don't think a lot of Twitter users who throw around words such as "grooming" or "inappropriate" to describe the relationship between the NJ girls and MHJ really a have a clue how things work. Maybe there's been such normalized ideas of idols having little to no connection to their output that someone would think it's "WEIRD" to see a form of mentorship between a creative director and their brainchild of a group. There's a reason why these girls blew up so fast and became so loved by the GP. It's because their every output was greatly executed by a company lead by a woman who CARES about them. You can just tell that they enjoyed performing their songs from day 1, that they have no issues with their art direction, styling, music, management whatsoever, because that's the environment that they were brought up in. It explains why they think so highly of MHJ and raised all the mistreatment concerns about the new management, because she was the one who created the environment that allowed them some humanity before it got taken away. I don't think MHJ deserves zero blame for whatever conflict that's been happening since this whole thing started but if you reallyyyy look into it, you would see that she only wanted the best for these girls and HYBE was having none of it. It would make sense if MHJ didn't show so many problematic behaviours; and them just blindly follow her can be seen as troublesome to some people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACT Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Meovv babies why don't you go to music core and music bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 47 minutes ago, ItsJustMe. said: i love lisa but other than the obvious reasons i can see why she's still nominated in the kpop categories except for the vmas she stays in the korean idol lane correct me if im wrong but the only interview she did was that korean drinking show and she does dance challenges with kpop artists if she really wants to break out globally she needs to do more interviews and performances her songs are doing well because of her fans and kpop fans and honestly the vma performance was fun but it could've been a lot better, it was serving kpop star being a little nervous to perform in a big global show. i get it but then i think of britney who was a teenager when she served that iconic stage presence, so I can't see why lisa couldn't. we know she can command a stage too! also idols are literally trained for korean award shows, which is all about being polite and serving 0 personality in crowds/when accepting awards lisa as a foreigner probably trained even harder for this so she just comes across as a little less impactful with her vma moments show yourself and your personality girlie and go all out. the material and talent is there this was my TEDtalk Honestly I feel like the girls aren't aware that you need to work hard to get at the top, they are used to pulling massive numbers with minimal promo. Rockstar/New woman had a huge debut on Spotify because she's Lisa but they're falling on the charts because she's doing the bare minimum, she has a festival so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAura Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Oh..the lashings.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 NMIXX impactful queens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newaespa Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 39 minutes ago, Windy Day said: the way i never hear this song anywhere they had the biggest hit in the country last winter it's insane how hard they fell The way only Perfect Night from their previous releases, is charting in the top 100 EASY, and that Tyla's song, released this year, are both OUT of top 100 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenasworld Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 minute ago, hallucinate said: NMIXX impactful queens Day6 arts and success some company boy group wishes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazy Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Witnessed ET said: Manon is the biggest example of pretty privilege I've seen in recent history. And the people use the excuse "oh she has the It factor" to justify her place but we know the tea. But either way, she definitely has put in the work and has been able to catch up to the other girls who are just insanely talented individually. So I'm rooting for her tbh. I mean, sure, she got her spot in the DA because of her beauty, she already had pretty big following on instagram which helped her a lot too, but I think it's not okay to say she's in KATSEYE just because of those things this is something that hurts a lot of pretty women, or people in general, in various industries - most of the time they need to work extra hard to prove their worth and skills, for some reason people tend to think it's easier to be pretty, slim etc., but it's hard and it hurts to be seen just as that - it also happens to Manon, since people label her as pretty and lazy but overlook her general improvement maybe she's not there yet and she has a lot of room to grow, but she has a lot of potential and I can only imagine she needed to work very hard to be where she is and to not stick out like a sore thumb among the rest of the talented girls from the group, her progress from the DA fan voting days is really visible she got her chance because of her look but then she put a lot of hard work into making it all happen Edited September 14 by Hazy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 16 minutes ago, hallucinate said: NMIXX impactful queens How can you have impact for other artists and not your own group but I see why the cover is amazing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, OrgVisual said: It would make sense if MHJ didn't show so many problematic behaviours; and them just blindly follow her can be seen as troublesome to some people She was fighting for her livelihood. I don't think you girls realize how awful a lot of the higher-ups in music are and how well they keep everything a secret. Look at Seungri, Taeil, Bang and Diddy. When young women tell you they don't feel comfortable with switching their inner circle, you should trust them. 59 minutes ago, newaespa said: The way only Perfect Night from their previous releases, is charting in the top 100 EASY, and that Tyla's song, released this year, are both OUT of top 100 They also randomly disappeared from U.S. Spotify charts as soon as their first week ended. HYBE is so fraudulent. 42 minutes ago, Dialamba said: How can you have impact for other artists and not your own group but I see why the cover is amazing NMIXX are so insanely talented but their music director is awful. Honestly, I could see them having a surprising amount of longevity if they ever got a competent musician in A&R. Edited September 14 by Eternium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbusting Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 back to thotting it up onstage, nature is healing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternium Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Also, everyone please get into my favorite boygroup song: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Day Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 12 minutes ago, Eternium said: NMIXX are so insanely talented but their music director is awful. Honestly, I could see them having a surprising amount of longevity if they ever got a competent musician in A&R. roller coaster was incredible i don't understand why they don't go that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperjennie Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 2 hours ago, ItsJustMe. said: i love lisa but other than the obvious reasons i can see why she's still nominated in the kpop categories except for the vmas she stays in the korean idol lane correct me if im wrong but the only interview she did was that korean drinking show and she does dance challenges with kpop artists if she really wants to break out globally she needs to do more interviews and performances her songs are doing well because of her fans and kpop fans and honestly the vma performance was fun but it could've been a lot better, it was serving kpop star being a little nervous to perform in a big global show. i get it but then i think of britney who was a teenager when she served that iconic stage presence, so I can't see why lisa couldn't. we know she can command a stage too! also idols are literally trained for korean award shows, which is all about being polite and serving 0 personality in crowds/when accepting awards lisa as a foreigner probably trained even harder for this so she just comes across as a little less impactful with her vma moments show yourself and your personality girlie and go all out. the material and talent is there this was my TEDtalk It was disappointing to say the least, even the small interview she did on the carpet was terrible, she's still stuck in that kpop bubble of not speaking out much which doesn't help push yourself out to the GP And how is she going to break out of the kpop circle if the VMAs gave her an award for her new songs that aren't kpop at all nnnn it just builds an image that she's still releasing songs considering 'kpop' which isn't the case think the only person who'll go all out with personality, engagement and the western push that could be successful will be jennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonginBey Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: back to thotting it up onstage, nature is healing The pants are restricting his butt from bouncing, and I hate that for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapperjennie Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: back to thotting it up onstage, nature is healing He's out the military??? When did he get out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 he is so cute, protect him at all costs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 oh wow, this is honestly one of the finest examples of a group giving 100% live vocals with no backtrack while doing the full choreography. they ATE how did they do that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The smashery @Eternium do Chinese stas counts like in Tencent/QQ music in global sales? cause aespa's number is definitely going to stomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudbusting Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 17 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: He's out the military??? When did he get out like last week i think (maybe even this week lmao) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustMe. Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, Dialamba said: Honestly I feel like the girls aren't aware that you need to work hard to get at the top, they are used to pulling massive numbers with minimal promo. Rockstar/New woman had a huge debut on Spotify because she's Lisa but they're falling on the charts because she's doing the bare minimum, she has a festival so there's that. yeah and i get that it's weird, on one hand she achieved a much bigger fame than a lot of western artists with blackpink, but to the gp she's a fairly new artist stuck with a kpop star image 16 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: It was disappointing to say the least, even the small interview she did on the carpet was terrible, she's still stuck in that kpop bubble of not speaking out much which doesn't help push yourself out to the GP And how is she going to break out of the kpop circle if the VMAs gave her an award for her new songs that aren't kpop at all nnnn it just builds an image that she's still releasing songs considering 'kpop' which isn't the case think the only person who'll go all out with personality, engagement and the western push that could be successful will be jennie true but i do think the kpop category is the only way she could be nominated, since those songs weren't like big gp hits we'll have to see with jennie, since she also has the tendency sometimes to be quiet/shy. it helps that she's more fluent in english tho. I'm very curious and excited for her debut, since lisa already put the bar so high with her releases. I can't wait! and just saying, LISA is achieving amazing things these days and is in no way doing bad, I just hoped for more since the material is really materialing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAura Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Kpop's biggest life threatening enthusiast strikes again i love her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 41 minutes ago, Windy Day said: roller coaster was incredible i don't understand why they don't go that way? Because it was their biggest bomb sadly, while DASH did better and now See that is doing even better. I guess they will continue going this route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odette Violet Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 First SNSD, now aespa. Megan doing Karina's iconic body bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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