poll Best classics: Taylor v.s. Madonna ?

[Oktober Knight]

1 hour ago, BrandNewBrandon said:

Buying three variants of the same album and then listening to it on the internet is like 4 units already and that's just one person 

 

Meanwhile, Madonna had one version and no tracking of how many times a fan listened to it at home and the singles from the album and how many times they were bought and listened to at home don't count towards her album sales either and yet they claim one is remotely comparable to the other 

Like imagine if they had a way of knowing how many times fans were playing the same song on their LP, cassette, or CD at home and counting it ON TOP OF her physical sales that were already reported. 

[supertiffany]

17 minutes ago, Oktober Knight said:

Like imagine if they had a way of knowing how many times fans were playing the same song on their LP, cassette, or CD at home and counting it ON TOP OF her physical sales that were already reported. 

the streaming era really has more advantages in driving up units 

[Oktober Knight]

13 minutes ago, supertiffany said:

the streaming era really has more advantages in driving up units 

Which is why the Billboard charts are so fraudulent and flawed today. We have album tracks in the top 10 that aren't even hits. 

[spree]

29 minutes ago, Oktober Knight said:

Like imagine if they had a way of knowing how many times fans were playing the same song on their LP, cassette, or CD at home and counting it ON TOP OF her physical sales that were already reported. 

don't talk with such logic.  They can't comprehend that. 

 

but yea, for all this "her sales would be lower if streaming was around" just imagine the HARDCORE STANS buying and streaming nonstop just like the Swifties do.  If Madonna had 10 variants for every album and single, you don't suspect her massive audience would also be buying literally everything collectible Madonna put out?  I would say yaaaas. 

 

it's so weird to see them say "oh she surpassed Mariah's sales, Whitney's sales, Celine's sales" etc...lol.  You can't compare them.

[LikeaRebel]

[Ron Ng]

I prefer these Taylor songs bit they're not classics. Madonna wins by default.

[GlamSlam]

I literally just reading Taylors so called "classics" next to Madonna's. Even T song titles are basic asf.

[spree]

5 hours ago, GlamSlam said:

I literally just reading Taylors so called "classics" next to Madonna's. Even T song titles are basic asf.

but the IMPACT!! she has all this impact from Shake it Off and Cruel Summer! 

[ohwow]

madonna sweetie

[Richie.Valdez]

Where’s Papa Don’t Preach tho?

 

[Psyduck]

"Like a Prayer", "Vogue" and "Frozen" alone obliterate Taylor's most famous singles in terms of quality. Add in "Hung Up" and it's FATALITY! Finish her!

 

It's really not fair to Taylor. It's like comparing Alexander McQueen with Banana Republic.

[BrandNewBrandon]

20 hours ago, spree said:

don't talk with such logic.  They can't comprehend that. 

 

but yea, for all this "her sales would be lower if streaming was around" just imagine the HARDCORE STANS buying and streaming nonstop just like the Swifties do.  If Madonna had 10 variants for every album and single, you don't suspect her massive audience would also be buying literally everything collectible Madonna put out?  I would say yaaaas. 

 

it's so weird to see them say "oh she surpassed Mariah's sales, Whitney's sales, Celine's sales" etc...lol.  You can't compare them.

I mean, Adele is much more popular and famous, Lady Gaga, Bieber and RIhanna as well than Taylor globally because you need HITS to reach average Joe outside of the US and Taylor's last big global hit was in 2015. Taylor thrives on having a dedicated fanbase but it's also why she can't compete with Adele's first week sales in the US alone (3.4 million) because she doesn't have that same support from the GP, especially not worldwide. 

 

But to add more to your point, Madonna's numerous variants would count as well as the streams from her hits in any particular era. So Vogue would've added SALES to its parent album, Material Girl would add units to its parent album etc. I mean, a Madonna album would be at the same sales as The Fame by Gaga (39 million units) and even that's unfair considering Gaga's units don't have how many times a fan replayed Poker Face in her units from 2009-this day. Taylor's sales are rather minuscule but they RUN with it because her peers peaked in the digital and physical eras. 

 

But to even imply Taylor has any recognisable hits like Madonna let alone CLASSICS is stupidity to the up-tenth degree 

Edited December 14, 2023 by BrandNewBrandon