base talk Pitchfork: PF2 6.5 "mixed bag," "creative plateau," "hollow"

[Anvarie]

18 minutes ago, Gladiator said:

Using samples is very common especially in rap, so I don't fault that... but the samples are just played in the background and sped up with a rap verse slapped on it. But do you really think an album that has about 5 tracks like that is better produced than how sampling was done in Roman Reloaded and Queen?

Name a RAP song better than Red Ruby on Roman Reloaded or Queen 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Anvarie

[Sombre]

4 minutes ago, FOCK said:

Well.

If Julianne Escobedo Shepherd says so. 
 

 

Of course the barbz would find a photo of the writer and spread it around as it's some sort of drag. Y'all always do this and it's so low.

[bestfiction]

Deserves less than 5.0 tbh. Some of the songs, especially the sampled ones are outright embarrassing. She really doesn't have the drive and creativity anymore 

[modeblock]

Halsey's famous quote comes to mind, altho tbh 6.5 is not that bad - y'all doing too much on both sides lol

[Ms. Togekiss]

They were too generous

[Archetype]

45 minutes ago, Anvarie said:

I’m not taking a publication that rated Roman Reloaded or Queen higher seriously 

 

Chun-Li accounts for 80% of Queen’s score and RR was a very iconic and defining moment for Nicki, even P4K realized that while reviewing.  
 

Great that she’s grown as a writer, but it’s more of a record for the fans than it is for anyone else.  The album is way too long and it lacks a central theme that ties any of it together, something that the original PF had.

[needs]

Y'all need hobbies.

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by needs

[CatchIt]

Lmao all reviews are subjective so why do y’all hold Pitchfork to such a high pedestal. NME and Guardian both gave her a 60/100 for Queen and 80/100 for PF2. Clearly, different people have different tastes and the album is polarising.

 

use your own brains (and ears) to make a judgment ppl

Edited December 11, 2023 by CatchIt

[Stepfon]

Like I always said: ALL that talk about pushing her pen and still NO critically acclaimed album to her name. 

[punisher]

45 minutes ago, Devin said:

Hood Hottest Princess being 8.0 is why i can’t take BITCHFORK seriously lol. 

a bunch of critics have HHP over an 8 including fantano, maybe it’s better than PF2!

[Diet Pepsi]

8 minutes ago, Stepfon said:

Like I always said: ALL that talk about pushing her pen and still NO critically acclaimed album to her name. 

better luck next time 

[hallucinate]

a bit generous if we’re being honest tbh

[mael]

See, this is why I don't trust these mfkers, it should have been LOWER.

[Bimbo]

A cold dose of reality for the delusions in Chop City

 

[Pendulum]

The way when P4K underrates an album that is released by an unproblematic aritst, or someone who doesn't have the background Nicki has, everyone is "boooo who cares about Pitchfork" *post that infamous Halsey P4K tweet*.  But I guess Pitchfork suddenly matters because they're dragging Nicki and what not. 

[Kern]

Scarlet got like 5 on Pitchfork and this album is better so it got higher score  

[suburbannature]

48 minutes ago, Stepfon said:

Like I always said: ALL that talk about pushing her pen and still NO critically acclaimed album to her name. 

It really doesn't mean much that their fave is pushing her own pen when the results are always like....this.

 

[liquiddiamonds]

Journalists shouldn’t been exposed for respectfully giving their paid-for opinion  It’s just a review… chill 

 

 

[Jimmy.]

ATRL back to respecting Pitchfork reviews I see

[Raptus]

43 minutes ago, stupidjock said:

Scarlet got like 5 on Pitchfork and this album is better so it got higher score  

5.9*

[KMO]

2 hours ago, Bandito said:

Honestly surprised it’s not lower… 

Wouldn’t be surprised if there were a handful of barbz at Pitchfork who bumped the average up with their scores. They can claim to be impartial and unbiased but they’re insidious, much like the Swifties.

[flower moon]

copium prices soar in what is left of what was formerly known as gag city

[KMO]

1 hour ago, Sombre said:

Of course the barbz would find a photo of the writer and spread it around as it's some sort of drag. Y'all always do this and it's so low.

They do this as if it hasn’t been proven that the average barb looks, talks and acts like Zach Campbell lol

[KOMH]

Same score as Peppa Pig

 

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by KOMH

[FOCK]

2 hours ago, Sombre said:

Of course the barbz would find a photo of the writer and spread it around as it's some sort of drag. Y'all always do this and it's so low.

It’s only low because you, yourself, are judging her appearance, clearly. 

It was to point out that she’s evidently not the target audience of a Nicki Minaj album. This is this one lady’s opinion & nothing more. It doesn’t hold any significant weight, I’d argue, less weight in fact, than the opinion of someone like Zach Campbell who another member here just used as a racially charged shade attempt.

 

Considering the demographic she falls under is relevant to highlight, whether you like it or not, it shatters the false sense that these “reviewers” are some type of cultural curators or have any credibility over particular genres - when they’re nothing but consumers & at times, as in this instance, cultural detractors. A job as an “editor” doesn’t give you a free pass from appropriate criticism. 

That’s not even mentioning the fact that these publications run on clicks… their job is to instigate. 

Edited December 11, 2023 by FOCK