~Start The Music Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, EtherealCat said: an album full of this please YOU GET IT
chaklux Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Alexander said: And then some of her stupid fans tried to come for the queen Stephanie Mills for saying that Beyonce is more hip-hop than glamour and pop like Diana. This record alone proves it Beyoncé is an all- rounder. She can be glamour and pop like Diana today, she can be hip hop and ratchet tomorrow. She is just so versatile. That’s what makes her career interesting and contributes to her longevity. Her fans are always curious and looking forward to what she will do next! 6
swissman Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dr. Alexander said: Pop is Pop. Hip-hop is hip-hop. Your Diana Ross and Lena Horne analogy is almost laughable, considering that Diana did indeed dip into jazz music with two jazz albums during her peak. Not even just that, but the fact she retained the same class, elegance, and glamour through film (Mahogany, Lady Sings the Blues, etc.) and through music - no matter the genre. So, no, your analogy doesn’t quite make sense. Beyonce is not in the same nor will ever be in the same lane as Diana. She has tried to rebrand herself as someone with the same elegance, glamour, and class as Diana or Diahann in the past few years (I would say after the deal with Tiffany), but 2010s Beyonce was definitely not glamour or pop. Not in the music and not in the appearance. Time goes on and things do evolve, but glamour is timeless. Actually, my analogy makes perfect sense and you've just outlined another reason why it does. When Lena was at her heyday, Jazz was the form pop music took. To be a popstar in the 1940s and 1950s meant you likely were performing jazz. In the mid-1950s rock came about and that became a dominant form of pop music. By the 1970s when Diana came along, Jazz was not the dominant style of the day, which skewed toward singer-songwriter stylings, newer forms of rock, and later disco. Pop changes with the times. It's unfair to credit Diana's jazz soundtrack as a reason why she's the same as Lena Horne, yet deny Beyoncé of a myriad of pop hits situating her in the realm of pop. A song like Irreplaceable is not hip-hop at all, and was Billboard Hot 100's Year-End #1 song of 2007. She has an established catalogue of "pure pop" if we want to call it that and it certainly links her to the style and genre we think Diana embodies, just as Diana may have links to the style of Lena Horne. Furthermore, if Lady Sings the Blues (Diana playing Billie Holiday) and Mahogany (Diana playing a model) count for Diana Ross' credits to "jazz" and "elegance", why do Dreamgirls (Beyoncé playing "Diana") and The Pink Panther (Beyoncé playing a popstar) not count for Beyoncé's credit to "pop" and "elegance"? Beyoncé is very much alike to Diana Ross in almost every way. From girl group to solo pop stardom to being a leading lady to being a leading figure helping to take the genres of the day mainstream (disco and hip-hop respectively), to both their eternal elegance to the way they can project it through all genres performed. The only difference is the styles and trends of their eras. There is a reason Ms. Ross appeared at the RWT to sing Happy Birthday to Beyoncé. And to your point about Beyoncé not having glamour in the 2010s? Because she made hip-hop tracks? lol. okay whatever you say. Which one sounds more legit: Beyoncé is a glamorous popstar Beyoncé is a unglamourous hip-hop artist Come on. Edited December 1, 2023 by swissman 5 1
liammmmacbtw Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 created a slightly extended version of the second half, check it out if you're interested! 2 1
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted December 1, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted December 1, 2023 Oh this is cute 15 hours ago, Sinister said: Sounds like a Ciara track Ciara has been inspiring her for years now so it's not surprising 1 1
Starkboy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 1st half is pretty terrible but the I enjoyed the 2nd half 1
Dante Silva Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 I keep trying to like something new by her but have not been able to since “Love on Top” which was years ago. I simply can’t relate to the shift in direction she took after her fourth album.
qurl Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Dante Silva said: I keep trying to like something new by her but have not been able to since “Love on Top” which was years ago. I simply can’t relate to the shift in direction she took after her fourth album. well the good news is that song exists and she has plenty of amazing music that came before it ! i’m just glad i stan an artist that has so many different sounds and facets she can tap into , and we’ll IMO. to each their own ! OT: been on repeat all day. love her mind for melodies, the more melodic parts of the song are gorgeous and it is also good for throwing ass. what’s not to love !
qurl Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 GET THE FCUK UP OUT MY GET THE FCUK UP OUT MY GET THE FCUK UP OUT MY GET THE FCUK UP OUT MY 4
Summer Boy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Awful song omg, maybe one of the worst (the worst?) of the year let me stream Cuff It to rinse my ears. Edited December 1, 2023 by Summer Boy 1 1
qurl Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Summer Boy said: Awful song omg, maybe one of the worst (the worst?) of the year let me stream Cuff It to rince my ears. while ur at it how bout you RINSE that brain as well hunnie cuz this is a slapper
On The Bound Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Summer Boy said: Awful song omg, maybe one of the worst (the worst?) of the year let me stream Cuff It to rince my ears. Edited December 1, 2023 by On The Bound 5 1
Summer Boy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, On The Bound said: Sixth most acclaimed song of 2020 that went #1 and won a Grammy? But I wouldn't expect someone that appreciate the noise that Beyoncé just dropped to appreciate high quality music! 1 1 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 This song is a statement, not a song designed to please radio-listeners. Its literally her rapping/singing that she is Beyonce for a reason - she doesnt care about confined formulas anymore. If shes feeling a k.u.n.t., shes gonna put it in a song. If she wants to show of her operativ vocals in the same song, she will do so. Just because she CAN. She can serve you literally ANYTHING. Thats pure versatility. Thats pure freedom. Thats pure confidence. Thats pure art. 2 1
Maxxie Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 I’m obsessed. I want more of this B! Renaissance era is my favourite Bey era for sure. She’d better announce those Aussie dates soon. Take my coins
If U Seek Amy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 It is okay. I don't dislike it but don't really like it. My main problem with it is the chanting is fine, but it goes on a bit too long/repetitive. If it was shorter and the rest was kept it would be much better. Beyonce's parts and other parts of the production are fantastic for me
50thStateofMind Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, Stepfon said: #53 on AM iTunes USA: 2 NEW Beyoncé - MY HOUSE
Pheromosa Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Marvin said: Oh this is cute Ciara has been inspiring her for years now so it's not surprising yet she will never be brought up on her own merits nor new material
DAP Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Well I’m glad this didn’t make it to Renaissance 3
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