Kristie Kuwa Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, 50thStateofMind said: #22 AM Really curious to see whether Renaissance can cross 4mio for yesterday Update again. I feel like My Houses performance kinda gives us a hint. The movie did THAT
Popular Post Soda Pop Queen Posted December 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2023 KERI KERI I KERI I KERI I KERI I KERI *****, I KERI 1 19
Cotton Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I’d say this is pretty good considering it was a surprise release to a song she hasn’t even mentioned at all. 8
UnderratedVocalist Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, Soda Pop Queen said: KERI KERI I KERI I KERI I KERI I KERI *****, I KERI I just listened to the song and this is literally what I thought of during that part 1
Yakult Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 21 hours ago, Redstreak said: Sure it doesn’t like a top 10 pop radio song but that doesn’t then make it experimental by default That’s not the point I was making. It is experimental regardless. Beyoncé plays with genre, structure, vocal techniques etc in various unusual ways. Just because it’s not a 19 minute flute opus doesn’t take that away.
Gossip_Boy Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 The bass synth is giving 99/00 Swizz Beatz. Love. 2
BletaRexher Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Spoiler Spoiler She’s so bad at rapping yet she insists on it. Just from the title I already predicted the whole song. I hope her next era she finally sticks to singing, it doesn’t even have to be straight pop her rapping just sucks. She’ll say a line then pause then a word then pause. I’m really tired of her treading the same worn out themes and styles she keeps doing when she has enough vocal talent and writers to go deeper than just “Our House”. I fully support her wanting to tell black and queer stories but I wish she’d do it in a way that’s not surface level. 3 3 7
shark_heather Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I love it . Specially the first half of the song
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BletaRexher said: Hide contents Hide contents She’s so bad at rapping yet she insists on it. Just from the title I already predicted the whole song. I hope her next era she finally sticks to singing, it doesn’t even have to be straight pop her rapping just sucks. She’ll say a line then pause then a word then pause. I’m really tired of her treading the same worn out themes and styles she keeps doing when she has enough vocal talent and writers to go deeper than just “Our House”. I fully support her wanting to tell black and queer stories but I wish she’d do it in a way that’s not surface level. Surface level? Pure/Honey alone is a certified ballroom anthem and is anything but surface-level. The Gift is literally a love letter to Africa and divas deep into self-love and uplifting Black people. Also Beys rapping is very diverse and can totally compete with other rappers: For example: her rap in Apeshit is great, her rap in Flawless Remix is great, her verse in Savage Remix was super stellar, like even in the intro to Energy at the tour she slayed her rap live (@5:40) Ps: It's obviously completely ok to not like the song, its quite experimental and certainly not for everybody. But I hate generalizations like yours in the vein of "she just scratches the surface of queer and Black lives in her music" when Bey has devoted entire albums and eras to uplifting Black and queer folk in the most profound way (see Lemonade, The Gift, Renaissance, and songs such as RTW, Freakum Dress, etc). Literally not on my watch Edited December 2, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa 1
orange22 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I think this is both awful and kind of her best bop in years 2 2
Mornings Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 The first part of this song is the best thing she’s released in years. And then she ruins it
justin. Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I wish she had kept the same energy from the first half of the song, but it's still great. The girls who get it, get it! Just like 7/11 1
swissman Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Dr. Alexander said: It does count but Diana was consistent throughout her entire career which makes her glamour. Beyonce did too much dipping into rap and “ratchetry” which makes her disqualified. In fact, it is what she’s known for most now because the entire last decade of her catalog was dominated by just that. Beyonce is not glamour and she will never be seen by the overall public as it. She’s seen as a blonde girl who can sing and can shake her ass. Nothing more and nothing less. Furthermore, Hollywood respected Diana. The Academy can see right through Beyonce and her shtick and refuses to give her anything - not as if she deserves anything anyway But, I suppose Beyonce can keep playing dress up to try to appear as glamorous, but as of lately, she continues to miss the mark I'm not about to get into a Diana vs. Beyoncé debate in terms of what they have achieved and the respect they have garnered from the industry because that really doesn't matter. So I'm going to disregard that. I just think overall what you are doing is measuring Beyoncé to Diana to find differences, ignoring the similarities and generational changes and then declaring Beyoncé is not a glamorous star. She simply has expressed it in different ways, and comes from a generation where different genres and styles are prevalent. I think it's silly to presume Diana would not have made hip-hop-flavoured pop had she debuted in 2003, just as she so easily and readily made disco-flavoured pop when that was the moment in her heyday. Let's not also forget Diana came from a different era of respectability not only for white women, but for Black women especially. Diana opened doors for people like Beyoncé to go forward asserting a specifically black-aesthetic as something as glamorous and worthy as what the white mainstream had established. There is glamour in hip-hop. Fashion is a huge part of it, and it has different ways to express glamour that may not align to Parisian sophistication but style and glamour is not a constant. Speaking of Parisian fashion, we can see this happen in real time with Beyoncé, wherein the house of Givenchy hired Riccardo Tisci as their creative director, who in turn brought a much more "streetwear", "Black" influence to the collections, and who very consistently dressed Beyoncé in some of the most glamorous outfits of her career, so much so that she even rapped "I'm so reckless when I rock my Givenchy dress". You may see this as "unclassy" and "ratchet" but I hope you can also see where this becomes problematic rhetoric that sidelines Black glamour unless it conforms to an outdated and white mindset. There's no way you can tell me any of these images/videos from the 2010s is not outright glamour: I could keep going on and on, but I'll wrap it up with this, one of Beyoncé most "hip-hip" singles, looking impeccably and utterly glamorous throughout: Edited December 2, 2023 by swissman 3 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, swissman said: I'm not about to get into a Diana vs. Beyoncé debate in terms of what they have achieved and the respect they have garnered from the industry because that really doesn't matter. So I'm going to disregard that. I just think overall what you are doing is measuring Beyoncé to Diana to find differences, ignoring the similarities and generational changes and then declaring Beyoncé is not a glamorous star. She simply has expressed it in different ways, and comes from a generation where different genres and styles are prevalent. I think it's silly to presume Diana would not have made hip-hop-flavoured pop had she debuted in 2003, just as she so easily and readily made disco-flavoured pop when that was the moment in her heyday. Let's not also forget Diana came from a different era of respectability not only for white women, but for Black women especially. Diana opened doors for people like Beyoncé to go forward asserting a specifically black-aesthetic as something as glamorous and worthy as what the white mainstream had established. There is glamour in hip-hop. Fashion is a huge part of it, and it has different ways to express glamour that may not align to Parisian sophistication but style and glamour is not a constant. Speaking of Parisian fashion, we can see this happen in real time with Beyoncé, wherein the house of Givenchy hired Riccardo Tisci as their creative director, who in turn brought a much more "streetwear", "Black" influence to the collections, and who very consistently dressed Beyoncé in some of the most glamorous outfits of her career, so much so that she even rapped "I'm so reckless when I rock my Givenchy dress". You may see this as "unclassy" and "ratchet" but I hope you can also see where this becomes problematic rhetoric that sidelines Black glamour unless it conforms to an outdated and white mindset. There's no way you can tell me any of these images/videos from the 2010s is not outright glamour: I could keep going on and on, but I'll wrap it up with this, one of Beyoncé most "hip-hip" singles, looking impeccably and utterly glamorous throughout: Lovely post. I think what many also forget is that Diana was someone who conformed to a lot of the rules and regulation of the industry whereas Bey, now more than ever, is all about breaking those boxes and rules 1 1
Pheromosa Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, BletaRexher said: Hide contents Hide contents She’s so bad at rapping yet she insists on it. Just from the title I already predicted the whole song. I hope her next era she finally sticks to singing, it doesn’t even have to be straight pop her rapping just sucks. She’ll say a line then pause then a word then pause. I’m really tired of her treading the same worn out themes and styles she keeps doing when she has enough vocal talent and writers to go deeper than just “Our House”. I fully support her wanting to tell black and queer stories but I wish she’d do it in a way that’s not surface level. idk if you're from SA or Europe or something but the first half is southern rap
pavi Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I love it. Sounds so agressive. And I can shake my ass to it
swissman Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Beyoncé releases a song with an unconventional song structure that is used as a hype-up, celebratory closing moment for the end credits: People: "Why is she [Beyoncé, a woman who has rapped on every album but her debut] rapping?" [Beyoncé rapping since 1997] "Beyoncé can't rap" "How am I supposed to read a book to this song?" [Beyoncé throwing in legit vocals on this track] "Why isn't she using her vocals on this track?" [Beyoncé having one of the most acclaimed albums of all time with REN] "This is factually unlistenable just like RENAISSANCE" "This [clearly intentionally unconventional song] is terrible. It should have been more like [the most generic, radio-friendly song on the album] CUFF IT" "This proves she has no glamour" "This affirms my hate for Beyoncé which apparently wasn't strong enough so I had to go listen to a new song I knew I wouldn't like so that I could have something newly negative to say about her." I'm all for critique but that requires a dash of critical thinking. Edited December 2, 2023 by swissman 2 2
Tripthelight Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, swissman said: "This affirms my hate for Beyoncé which apparently wasn't strong enough so I had to go listen to a new song I knew I wouldn't like so that I could have something negative to say about her." Whew. Clockedt
Kristie Kuwa Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, swissman said: Beyoncé releases a song with an unconventional song structure that is used as a hype-up, celebratory closing moment for the end credits: People: "Why is she [Beyoncé, a woman who has rapped on every album but her debut] rapping?" [Beyoncé rapping since 1997] "Beyoncé can't rap" "How am I supposed to read a book to this song?" [Beyoncé throwing in legit vocals on this track] "Why isn't she using her vocals on this track?" [Beyoncé having one of the most acclaimed albums of all time with REN] "This is factually unlistenable just like RENAISSANCE" "This [clearly intentionally unconventional song] is terrible. It should have been more like [the most generic, radio-friendly song on the album] CUFF IT" "This proves she has no glamour" "This affirms my hate for Beyoncé which apparently wasn't strong enough so I had to go listen to a new song I knew I wouldn't like so that I could have something newly negative to say about her." I'm all for critique but that requires a dash of critical thinking. Adding to that, in the film she quite literally says in the last bts "I feel like a new animal and I dont give a **** anymore about what people think about my art - I've earned the right to do what I want, my fans get me and I have nothing left to prove". Then comes "My House" and some of the gheys that like other, more safe artists, are like "wtf is that noise?!?!" Worms for brain 4
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