charts discussion Should Billboard separate Christmas songs from Hot 100?

[Mr. Mendes]

Well no? If they're the songs that are selling and being streamed the most, then they should be charting on the mainstream chart. We shouldn't be removing songs that are earning the sales and streams just because a lot of them appear for a month and a half. 

[Miley Cyrus]

It’s fine but current songs on the chart should be immune from going recurrent.

[Mr. Mendes]

1 hour ago, Vespertine said:

Genuine question because I barely listen to Christmas music besides for a few days beforehand: do people actually listen to Christmas music this much?  And so early?

 

Or are these songs racking up major points from radio + stores and malls playing Christmas Spotify playlists nonstop? 

It's a few different things. 

 

There are people who do yes absolutely enjoy listening to Christmas music and actively seek to play it intentionally around this season. There's also business and such playing playlists constantly during this time of year. There's also people playing the songs to soundtrack their holiday parties be it at home or at work. The radio also tends to play Christmas music around this time and radio points count toward the Hot 100 as well. 

 

The actual consumption comes from a lot of different scenarios, but that's really how Christmas songs have always survived. It's a novelty genre and one that's built entirely off of it just being a seasonal take over of that vibe. Which is to say yeah it still should chart on the Hot 100 right where it is because this is when its popular. 

[Bey_Rihstan]

No they shouldn’t as they reflect what’s popular for the week. If they don’t stop Taylor swift and Drake from clogging up the hot 100 when they release they should leave everybody else alone cncnckkc it’s literally a month. 

[Sabrina Carpenter]

no? deal with it

[Heldenzeit]

No, I feel like charts are to repressnt what people listen to/watch at the moment, so why would you filter something out?

[burninredhot]

No they shouldn't but the GP should listen to these christmas songs on rotation and discover new ones. It's tiring to see the same 5 songs top the charts every year 

[littlebodybigheart]

25 minutes ago, burninredhot said:

No they shouldn't but the GP should listen to these christmas songs on rotation and discover new ones. It's tiring to see the same 5 songs top the charts every year 

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[RoyalT]

No, but they should also drop all of these weird recurring rules. Charts should be simple and fair; what's most popular should chart.

[#Beautiful]

3 hours ago, Klein said:

Charts should reflect the most popular songs in the country. They should actually drop all their weird rules about which songs are restricted to chart.

this. if anything they're setting up old songs, they have no reason to be restrictive about that and theres no reason to remove christmas material from the charts when you have actual frauds roaming the charts. the christmas music is PURCHASED and streamed by actual people so the chart reflects the actual truth in the realest way possibly the only time of the year when it does that organically 

[HASHTAGPOW]

No, but we need new Christmas songs. Where’s Ava Max’s Christmas album? 

[Machete]

1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Album bombs ARE an issue. It is the singles chart, they should not be clogged with album tracks. 
 

Honestly, album bombs are a way bigger issue than Christmas songs. Christmas singles are the top singles of the week because they are the most popular songs of the week nothing is wrong with that 

Defining a single has always been a tricky thing (see BB in the 90s with there being massive songs that literally spent +15 weeks #1 on Radio but didn’t enter Hot 100 cause it wasn’t considered a “single”) but the lines are especially more blurred in the streaming era. Some artists album tracks do incredibly well and outstream clear-cut singles. How would properly Billboard differentiate one-week charter album tracks to +10 week ones like traitor by Olivia Rodrigo (which ironically later became a single which makes it even a bigger mess)?

[naval23]

No its just 4 weeks 

[Jaguarqueef]

4 hours ago, Vespertine said:

Genuine question because I barely listen to Christmas music besides for a few days beforehand: do people actually listen to Christmas music this much?  And so early?

 

Or are these songs racking up major points from radio + stores and malls playing Christmas Spotify playlists nonstop? 

It’s mostly stores putting them on their playlists, tbh.

 

Christmas music is corny asf..but they are popular around Christmas time.

[fauxtography]

6 hours ago, Devin said:

blame the GP for streaming Xmas music right after Halloween. 
 

we’re kinda on schedule to when Xmas music takes over, i like it bc it challenges artists if ur music is good enough to survive or those who is bold to drop in Dec.

It’s not really the GP though. The reason Christmas music surges after a certain date is because retail stores switch to holiday playlists. 

[brenda-walsh]

tbh yes, and they should follow uk rules and only allow the 3 highest streamed songs from an album to chart at a time

[thatsmydemi]

It's gonna happen sooner or later tbh. 

[DemDam92]

No, most consumed songs are most consumed songs.

 

I am actually very glad that most of you don’t support a ban. 
There used to be times when non singles were not able to chart. Imagine this would be the case again: all you Swiftis and Drakies (how u even call them?) without Taylor occupying the Top 10 and the hundreds of Hot 100 entries. 
We accepted that every song is able to chart if points are given and so shall it be.
 

Mariah coming for most weeks at #1 and her third Song of the Decade ❤️

[thatsmydemi]

3 hours ago, naval23 said:

No its just 4 weeks 

5* weeks this year 

[Angelo]

6 hours ago, Cain said:

The Billboard chart is supposed to represent the most popular songs in the US in any given week (emphasis on supposed). It’s actually not there to give your fave female artist more weeks in the top 10 so you can use those stats as ammunition against people you don’t like on the internet, contrary to popular belief on here 

Damn! Haha

[Mystic Boy]

Yes Hot100 should represent the most popular and most consumed music by the PUBLIC and NOT by shops and malls

People didnt even dress their trees yet so none s gonna tell me GP is playing Christmas music this early 

[Credit]

no but maybe they can run a different chart without the christmas songs

[Hurem]

8 hours ago, suburbannature said:

The backfire.  

It would be a backfire if I thought there should be a separate chart, which I don’t  

 

I just opened a thread for discussion because that’s what you’re supposed to do on a forum. Why do you think every post on here is stan war fueled?  

[Siberian Tiger]

No. It's a popularity chart and these songs are popular.

[jdanton2]

they could have a separate chart and call it current hits or something like that and remove Christmas as well as album bombs . the Hot 100 would still include all songs .