charts discussion Should Billboard separate Christmas songs from Hot 100?

[Hurem]

For the past couple of years, Christmas songs have clogged the Hot 100 chart during the holidays season. With each passing year, the boost has started earlier than usual. This year will mark the first time that the entire top 5 is occupied by Christmas songs before December.

 

Should Billboard establish a dedicated chart for holiday songs? Should it restrict these songs to chart only during December or the Christmas week?

 

State your cases.

 

[Hector]

Might as well remove album bombs to make it truly "fair". Never understood the yearly uproar with Christmas songs here while ATRL doesn't bat an eye with album bombs.

Edited November 26, 2023 by Hector

[Devin]

blame the GP for streaming Xmas music right after Halloween. 
 

we’re kinda on schedule to when Xmas music takes over, i like it bc it challenges artists if ur music is good enough to survive or those who is bold to drop in Dec.

[Odette Violet]

No. Mariah will reign supreme this Holiday season  

[Cain]

The Billboard chart is supposed to represent the most popular songs in the US in any given week (emphasis on supposed). It’s actually not there to give your fave female artist more weeks in the top 10 so you can use those stats as ammunition against people you don’t like on the internet, contrary to popular belief on here 

[Klein]

As much as I hate Christmas music, no.

 

Charts should reflect the most popular songs in the country. They should actually drop all their weird rules about which songs are restricted to chart.

[geddymonster]

The charts are supposed to represent the most consumed music during a given week. If that happens to be Christmas music, so be it.

[FreeXone]

It reflects what’s POPULAR. Soon Halloween music might start rising yearly with Halloween growing more and more each year. 

[PurrKaty]

No. Why remove the music that is the most listened to during certain months? I want to see which songs truly are the most popular each week. 

[Johnnyboi]

No, just make songs more popular than Christmas songs. 

[suburbannature]

The backfire.  

[BrandNewBrandon]

No because people listen to them and it's because of people listening to them that they are where they are on the chart. However, there should be a change in Billboard's rules overall though as someone sitting on their laptop writing an essay and putting a song they like on Spotify and then Spotify playing recommended songs afterwards that you didn't choose per demand end up getting points from that towards the Hot 100 as if they were played by you entirely by demand is not fair. Half of the chart is points from radio and then playlists and Spotify radio. 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by BrandNewBrandon

[BellKat]

Nah, charts should reflect what is consumed... but maybe the chart can display the Top125 or Top150 during these months? Just so many songs at the bottom are still visible and we can see interesting chart movements?

[Vespertine]

Genuine question because I barely listen to Christmas music besides for a few days beforehand: do people actually listen to Christmas music this much?  And so early?

 

Or are these songs racking up major points from radio + stores and malls playing Christmas Spotify playlists nonstop? 

[gatito]

no, we need santa tell me to hit #1 by 2030

[BtDecember]

No. What they should remove is that 52/25 rule or whatever that is called

[dussymob]

Y'all ask this every year. Give it up!

[Luckitty]

I'm neither with or against

 

but i feel like billboard will separate them in the future, maybe after mariah breaks the record again

[Machete]

No. If they're the most popular, then they're the most popular. Only thing I would agree with is not counting them for Decade-End and All-Time lists or records. Like they will eventually hold all the records for most weeks #1, top 10, etc.

[mojitos]

7 minutes ago, Machete said:

No. If they're the most popular, then they're the most popular. Only thing I would agree with is not counting them for Decade-End and All-Time lists or records. Like they will eventually hold all the records for most weeks #1, top 10, etc.

Agree because in like 20 years AIWFCIY and RATC will probably hold the top 2 in all time hot 100 chart with last christmas and jingle bell rock probably sneaking in the top 20 too...

[wulmite]

1 hour ago, Cain said:

It’s actually not there to give your fave female artist more weeks in the top 10 so you can use those stats as ammunition against people you don’t like on the internet

ooh this was NASTY 

[Vroom Vroom]

1 hour ago, Hector said:

Might as well remove album bombs to make it truly "fair". Never understood the yearly uproar with Christmas songs here while ATRL doesn't bat an eye with album bombs.

Album bombs ARE an issue. It is the singles chart, they should not be clogged with album tracks. 
 

Honestly, album bombs are a way bigger issue than Christmas songs. Christmas singles are the top singles of the week because they are the most popular songs of the week nothing is wrong with that 

[Punky Rooster]

54 minutes ago, Vespertine said:

Genuine question because I barely listen to Christmas music besides for a few days beforehand: do people actually listen to Christmas music this much?  And so early?

 

Or are these songs racking up major points from radio + stores and malls playing Christmas Spotify playlists nonstop? 

Yes, our building at work plays a Christmas Spotify playlist constantly, the same 30 songs over and over and over. Most businesses would probably do the same.

[Punky Rooster]

14 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Album bombs ARE an issue. It is the singles chart, they should not be clogged with album tracks. 
 

Honestly, album bombs are a way bigger issue than Christmas songs. Christmas singles are the top singles of the week because they are the most popular songs of the week nothing is wrong with that 

Album bombs have a random album track from maximum 10 biggest streaming acts chart for a week and then instantly disappear - they aren't popular singles, and shouldn't be added to top 10/top 40 singles counts.

[supaspaz]

1 hour ago, Cain said:

The Billboard chart is supposed to represent the most popular songs in the US in any given week (emphasis on supposed). It’s actually not there to give your fave female artist more weeks in the top 10 so you can use those stats as ammunition against people you don’t like on the internet, contrary to popular belief on here 

And are these actually the most popular songs in the US in the middle of November? Or are our corporate overlords just spamming their Christmas playlists so you'll buy a bunch of shit you don't need while you're out shopping?