Kristie Kuwa Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Taylor is the type of person to record a song for Ana and donate the money she makes from it to the family while banking in another #1 1
bjorn Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Popboi. said: All she did was attend a concert, there's not many precautions a person can do that would help when temperature is extreme, there's too many people around you, venue's vents are closed down by the promoters and there's no immediate effective aid for heatstroke. Feeling dizzy or "wrong" for a minute could've been the only warning signs she could've had. It wasn't Ana's fault. And yes, entering water from the outside wasn't allowed. The only precaution would have been to drink lots of water before entering the venue. What happened to her was very tragic. But everyone’s responsible over their own health. Sorry if that’s sounds harsh 7
Mr.X Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Taylor is the type of person to record a song for Ana and donate the money she makes from it to the family while banking in another #1 And that is just ******* awful that it could be even considered in the first place. This isn't a game, it's a person's life. 2
Uncatena Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, bjorn said: The only precaution would have been to drink lots of water before entering the venue. What happened to her was very tragic. But everyone’s responsible over their own health. Sorry if that’s sounds harsh thats not how a ******* heatstroke works, ******* 1
M!X Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I am really surprised by the way this story is unfolding so far, Taylor not saying/doing anything is so out of character for her.
Popboi. Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, bjorn said: The only precaution would have been to drink lots of water before entering the venue. What happened to her was very tragic. But everyone’s responsible over their own health. Sorry if that’s sounds harsh Drinking lots of water hours before a show doesn't stop cardiac arrest from heat stroke. 1
torontowest91 Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Im sure she will reach out and give a large sum of money
DougAF Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, Popboi. said: Drinking lots of water hours before a show doesn't stop cardiac arrest from heat stroke. Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. 1 15
Edu Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. y'all are truly insufferable 6 1
bjorn Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Popboi. said: Drinking lots of water hours before a show doesn't stop cardiac arrest from heat stroke. If you don’t replace the water you lose, you can become dehydrated. Dehydration leads to fainting spells by reducing your circulating blood volume, making it harder for the body to deliver adequate blood to your vital organs including your brain. 1
Mr.X Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. and technically, thats not the fans' fault - that's the artist and the organisation's fault for not ensuring fans' safety both in getting in and inside the stadium. You want to make people struggle to get to see their favourite artist because it gives you an ego boost - and created headlines of how impactful you are - but then complain when there are consequences? Like, people and fans are more than just numbers on a spreadsheet. They are people. 4
Headlock Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Taylor is the type of person to record a song for Ana and donate the money she makes from it to the family while banking in another #1 What was that about OTHs not making this about stan wars again? 1
Popboi. Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. If it wasn't her that was in that position, it would've been someone else. Real precautions would've been promoters doing a better job at supplying care, not overselling the standing areas and not closing down the ventilaton. Placing any blame on Ana is the one thing everyone can agree is wildly wrong. 6
velocity Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. you're genuinely such a disgusting, despicable person it's unreal 5 1 3
fijitears Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Reading this thread was a rollercoaster…..to say the least 1
Venice B Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. I hope you know how vile you are for not only blaming the fans but saying something like this when a person literally died. Take your stan goggles off just for a second and have show empathy. 6 2 2
Asscatchem Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 this is potentially taylor's most damaging scandal ever. the kimye thing may have blew up bigger but the ramifications are peanuts compared to this. "a girl died at a taylor swift concert." even though taylor is not technically responsible, the optics are that blood is on her hands. 1 2
CBC Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Angel94 said: Apparently Ana's best friend confirmed it too 1 1
DougAF Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr.X said: and technically, thats not the fans' fault - that's the artist and the organisation's fault for not ensuring fans' safety both in getting in and inside the stadium. You want to make people struggle to get to see their favourite artist because it gives you an ego boost - and created headlines of how impactful you are - but then complain when there are consequences? Like, people and fans are more than just numbers on a spreadsheet. They are people. There’s blame on both the organizer and the fan. I’ve been to many GA shows and never once showed up early to get a spot near the front, ESPECIALLY in sweltering heat. Did they at least bring water for when they were waiting outside the stadium for hours? I saw they had a black umbrella which might as well have been a heat radiator. We also literally don’t know what caused the cardiovascular event, it literally could have been Taylor first popping up from the stage. 3
Edu Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, DougAF said: There’s blame on both the organizer and the fan. I’ve been to many GA shows and never once showed up early to get a spot near the front, ESPECIALLY in sweltering heat. Did they at least bring water for when they were waiting outside the stadium for hours? I saw they had a black umbrella which might as well have been a heat radiator. We also literally don’t know what caused the cardiovascular event, it literally could have been Taylor first popping up from the stage. standing in line to secure a good spot is normal fan behavior, don't pretend like it's not 3
ATRL Moderator Legend E Posted November 22, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, DougAF said: Well no, but maybe not standing in line for 8 hours to get a better spot crammed towards the front in general admission would have helped. yes, let's blame the victim! very mature! 3
IceSpice Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 “When I’m ignoring Ana, I’m really ignoring Ana… that’s not a metaphor punchline, I’m really ignoring Ana” - Taylor Swift (Taylor’s unapologetic Version) 2 2
Velvet Night Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chartman said: And what do you think keeps her back than? If she is not liable than all she would need is a phone and make a single call. Or donate money in an instant. What has Taylor in her own mind that stops her 🤔 Idk, like I‘ve said I‘m very surprised and disappointed that she didn’t. It seems very out of character for her. Taylor is very calculated so she must know that this is bad for her image. Edited November 22, 2023 by Velvet Night
ttsmu Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 OMG I can't believe there are some users blaming Ana for her own death. I would be afraid being around this kind of people, tbh. Psychopaths. 2
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