celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

[Popboi.]

2 hours ago, latingrl2005 said:

This is the same site that was soooooooo sure Kimye was telling the truth but we all founded out...So, ill be patient and wait to the end.

 

 

And it's the same few people that are usually camping on every. single. thread. that has even the slight chance of demonizing her. Weaponizing any chance they find to do so, even if it turns out to be wrong.

Edited November 22, 2023 by Popboi.

[violent desires]

7 hours ago, MissedTheTrain said:

 

 

Even if you for some reason think Taylor is some sort of heartless calculated person, something you can't deny is that she IS a PR machine.  Not reaching out to the family/paying for the funeral is bad press, and an extremely easy fix would be to reach out to the family, cut them a check, etc.  

Right now, no major news outlet is talking about this. They already published articles saying that Taylor was devastated and shared thoughtful story on Instagram. Everybody commenting was like she has such a beautiful heart etc. Then they moved on. So if she does anything else, she’ll bring attention to the subject again. In that sense, it is more logical that she is not doing anything. Now if this had happened in US, everything would be so much different.

[BIAATCH]

She should donate the money from that night to the family tbh

[gustavothehuman]

27 minutes ago, Selegend said:

waiting for her to say something has been agonizing. 

i already accepted that she'll probably only say anything when she's far away from Brazil but that will most likely block a fresh start from happening in São Paulo. Something all swifties wanted. 

 

and another sad thing is that i know most swifties are, at the same time sad for Ana ofc but kinda looking forward to forget about it during the show hours at least to enjoy their night in a carefree way.  something we've been dreaming about for years! 

but with her silence, the vibes will most likely be the same from Rio. the only difference will be the heat imo  honestly sad. 

 

i get that there's legal reasons, money reasons, contract reasons... but is it TRULY more important than all of this for a billionaire? i don't think so.... 

i don't know man i love taylor so much but it truly has been feeling like there's not a person behind the product. 

 

does it make sense? no. i know it doesn't! cuz even in PR it would be easier to do something, we all know that. 

but how can we feel any other way? 

gringos attacking us nonstop, taylor silent about Ana

we have to just keep trusting and trusting and trusting? 

oh god i feel like a crybaby here but i am sad.

and i wasn't yesterday!! yesterday i 100% gave Tay the benefit of the doubt, but today i woke up like this again 

it's been an emotion rollercoaster for us brazilian fans

Yeah, I don't think anyone is really on the mood for the shows anymore. I'm only going because I planned this for months and everything is already paid for. I like Taylor's music and I don't think I'm able to stop listening to it, but I lost the admiration I had for her as a person.

[IceSpice]

Not it’s more logical to do nothing now otherwise it’ll bring more attention.

 

Beyonce had more guilt and sympathy for Taylor than Taylor has for her own fan who died 

 

everything isn’t about optics 

[Popboi.]

5 minutes ago, IceSpice said:

Not it’s more logical to do nothing now otherwise it’ll bring more attention.

 

Beyonce had more guilt and sympathy for Taylor than Taylor has for her own fan who died 

 

everything isn’t about optics 

[bjorn]

11 minutes ago, BIAATCH said:

She should donate the money from that night to the family tbh

That’s like $10 million? 
 

no she should not. I’m sorry but what happened did to Ana is really tragic and sad, but if she’d been out queuing since 11am in the morning then it’s her own responsibility to hydrate and make sure to drink lots of water. 

[AcidPrince]

#JusticeForAna

[Venice B]

The fact some people still don't understand the fact that NO ONE is blaming Taylor for Ana's death, but holding her accountable for the way she and her team have hadled the situation and the difference of treatment latin american fans are getting when compared to north american fans. When a girl passes out in one of her US concerts her mom rushes to see if the girl is okay, while 1000 fans fainted in Rio and one died but she couldn't even say her name on her insta stories or on stage. 

[Outlaws]

19 minutes ago, bjorn said:

That’s like $10 million? 
 

no she should not. I’m sorry but what happened did to Ana is really tragic and sad, but if she’d been out queuing since 11am in the morning then it’s her own responsibility to hydrate and make sure to drink lots of water. 

 some of you are really deranged and completely out of touch.

[SinnerCity]

18 minutes ago, bjorn said:

That’s like $10 million? 
 

no she should not. I’m sorry but what happened did to Ana is really tragic and sad, but if she’d been out queuing since 11am in the morning then it’s her own responsibility to hydrate and make sure to drink lots of water. 

She’s a child ffs. The line was packed of people under an unbearable heat, no amount of water could help a body resist a lack of clear air and oxygen. Blaming her for her own death is as heartless and it can get. 

[Movimento Perpétuo]

She is a mess 

[Raver]

33 minutes ago, bjorn said:

That’s like $10 million? 
 

no she should not. I’m sorry but what happened did to Ana is really tragic and sad, but if she’d been out queuing since 11am in the morning then it’s her own responsibility to hydrate and make sure to drink lots of water. 

Now this is true. That woman needs to be held responsible for her own reckless behavior too. 

[PoisonPill]

9 hours ago, georgechxng said:

i think if this had happened in the US, her and her team would’ve acted on it already but right now, she can afford to “lose” brazilian fans if it means that this doesn’t become a big deal in how the rest of the world perceives her. she probably doesn’t want her image getting attatched to this kind of tragedy after experiencing such a big year for her career. and if she doesn’t comment on it, that’s easier to achieve. it’s cold and messed up but i can’t think of anything else that would explain her not even getting in touch with ana’s family.

Makes sense, that’s why she shared a letter about it to her 230 million global Instagram followers, to keep things hush hush. 

[bjorn]

14 minutes ago, SinnerCity said:

She’s a child ffs. The line was packed of people under an unbearable heat, no amount of water could help a body resist a lack of clear air and oxygen. Blaming her for her own death is as heartless and it can get. 

excuse me she was in her 20s no? Sorry for sounding harsh but that’s no child…she’s responsible for her own health. You faint because your body is dehydrated. It’s not like there was a stampede and lack of oxygen caused her to faint. The blood couldn’t deliver oxygen because of lack of water. 
 

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If you don’t replace the water you lose, you can become dehydrated. Dehydration leads to fainting spells by reducing your circulating blood volume, making it harder for the body to deliver adequate blood to your vital organs including your brain.

If you decide to stand out in the sun all day queuing then she should have made sure to hydrate before entering the venue. 

[More Than A Melody]

6 hours ago, Outlaws said:

People saying "let's give her the benefit of doubt", until when?

Not contacting the family on the very first day was already late enough. 

 

My God.

"Clearly there's something else at play, you know she'd contact the girl at least for PR optics"

 

But like... would she? Wouldn't contacting the family start the entire conversation in the press cycle again? Something I'm sure she wants to avoid at this point? I don't know. I was 100% team "I'll give her the benefit of the doubt" at first, today is day five since Ana died. She's had all Saturday, all Sunday, all Monday, all Tuesday, and today is Wednesday, midday in Brazil. I'm hoping I'm wrong but it's not looking good, and having done nothing so far is already bad enough.

[Edu]

5 minutes ago, bjorn said:

excuse me she was in her 20s no? Sorry for sounding harsh but that’s no child…she’s responsible for her own health. You faint because your body is dehydrated. It’s not like there was a stampede and lack of oxygen caused her to faint. The blood couldn’t deliver oxygen because of lack of water. 
 

If you decide to stand out in the sun all day queuing then she should have made sure to hydrate before entering the venue. 

woah this is a new low even for swifties

pretending like this is somewhat ana's fault is disgusting

[Taylena]

It's tragic how everyone here still fails to comprehend that when we mention legal actions regarding Taylor's refusal to speak or assist the family, it is not because Taylor herself is afraid of being sued or blamed for Ana's death. Rather, it is to prevent T4F from shifting the blame onto Taylor, not giving them any ammunition and not allowing them to continue endangering concert attendees and possibly not facing any consequences for Ana's tragic death. Taylor's determination to hold T4F accountable for the loss of Ana's life and ensure that no one else suffers from the company's negligence is way more important than any condolences she could offer to the grieving family.

[byzantium]

22 minutes ago, Venice B said:

the difference of treatment latin american fans are getting when compared to north american fans.

I think this is the fundamental issue here is this perceived difference.  Many fans got sick and passed out at one of the Nashville shows as a result of a rainstorm (and eventually crowding inside).  It’s pretty common for any event  of 70k for at least a couple people to have medical concerns in which cases the local event organizers and stadium staff take care of the situation and no one hears about it.  Of course there is one instance where Taylor’s mom met with one person who she personally saw pass out, but that is hardly how every situation is handled.  
 

They key difference here is it is clear the even organizers and stadium completely failed the people attending the show.  They were I’ll equipped, set up the flooring and ventilation poorly, and did not handle the water situation well.  It just seems odd that people are latching onto some difference from the performer when the most significant difference was the local organizers.  

[bjorn]

Just now, Edu said:

woah this is a new low even for swifties

pretending like this is somewhat ana's fault is disgusting

How in the world is this anyone else’s fault? Please explain. If they refused water bottles in the queue outside then I understand. But if you’re out in hot weather and you don’t hydrate, who’s the one to blame? 

[More Than A Melody]

11 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

Makes sense, that’s why she shared a letter about it to her 230 million global Instagram followers, to keep things hush hush. 

She shared a vague statement in order to explain why she wouldn't be addressing the situation on stage. In fact, her original statement was wrong, since she said the fan died before the show. I do believe it was because of the misinformation running around at the time and not malicious on Taylor's part, but the truth of the matter is that all her official social media or public spokesmen or herself has said on the matter was "a fan died before my show and I'm sad" five days ago. Not mentioning the victim and with a huge spot of misinformation on the subject that was never corrected.

 

Clearly she couldn't say absolutely NOTHING. Nobody would get away with that.

[Popboi.]

50 minutes ago, bjorn said:

That’s like $10 million? 
 

no she should not. I’m sorry but what happened did to Ana is really tragic and sad, but if she’d been out queuing since 11am in the morning then it’s her own responsibility to hydrate and make sure to drink lots of water. 

All she did was attend a concert, there's not many precautions a person can do that would help when temperature is extreme, there's too many people around you, venue's vents are closed down by the promoters and there's no immediate effective aid for heatstroke. Feeling dizzy or "wrong" for a minute could've been the only warning signs she could've had. It wasn't Ana's fault.

 

And yes, entering water from the outside wasn't allowed.

[Edu]

1 minute ago, bjorn said:

How in the world is this anyone else’s fault? Please explain. If they refused water bottles in the queue outside then I understand. But if you’re out in hot weather and you don’t hydrate, who’s the one to blame? 

are we all forgetting that ana wasn't the only one affected by the negligence of the promoter? multiple people also suffered from 2nd degree burns

in a ideal world the friday show would have been rescheduled to a different date due to the heat wave

[Edu]

the article is now available in english if anyone here wants to read it

 

[Bhabylon]

This website loves to infantilize and coddle the most mediocre white women because the lack of empathy and stupidity some of y’all are showing just to defend Taylor