celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

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3 hours ago, MissedTheTrain said:

I'm....genuinely perplexed at the downvoting in here to some logical points and the way people don't seem to understand that there's clearly more at play here?  Can we use our brains for a second?

 

Even if you for some reason think Taylor is some sort of heartless calculated person, something you can't deny is that she IS a PR machine.  Not reaching out to the family/paying for the funeral is bad press, and an extremely easy fix would be to reach out to the family, cut them a check, etc.  The fact that she isn't doing that simple thing, which is something she HAS done countless times in the past in similar situations....there's pretty clearly more going on with this situation.

 

If she says or does anything that could be even insinuating at admitting fault, it could backfire on her.  The event company won't hesitate to throw the blame back on her to get it off their backs, one lawsuit could result in many more from people who were there and had medical issues, etc.

So what you are basically saying that she values her money (in the case of a lawsuit) more than doing a human thing that is reaching out the family of the fan and support them? Esp with how she built this whole image of "my fans are my family"?

 

What a billionaire thing to do indeed!

Edited November 22, 2023 by Sept

[bjorn]

1 hour ago, Cloudy said:

She's such a despicable human being. One of the most unlikable people on Earth and her cult are even worse

You happy now? 

[RideOrDie]

7 hours ago, bad guy said:

This typical stan war'd tactic of shouting out "hAtEr!!!" might work when its about music discourse but the family of a fan that died at her show has yet to here from her. Have some decency at least. The ability of some Swifties to make excuses for literally everything she does, all while trying to flip the narrative on people critical of her as "haters" as if she's the victim never fails to surprise me either. I guess her fans in here who are also calling a spade a spade have a parasocial hatred for her as well, whatever the **** that means 

we all can see through your sinister intentions hiding behind your façade of moral justifications, bad guy. but if you are really curious i'm not a swiftie nor do i think she has handled this situation in the best way. keep the paragraphs going though, all you do is embarrass yourself.

 

7 hours ago, PoisonPill said:

I think (hope) we can all agree that Ana’s death is awful and those venue conditions should never have been allowed. But what I find gross is the people exploiting it as an opportunity to throw mud on a celebrity they dislike, while fashioning themselves as morally superior even though they couldn’t actually care less about Ana’s family other than using them as a cudgel on an Internet forum.

[Rep2000]

Not this thread already stacked more comments than the original thread of the incident, I-

ATRL, never changes.

[Robburro]

5 hours ago, georgechxng said:

i think if this had happened in the US, her and her team would’ve acted on it already but right now, she can afford to “lose” brazilian fans if it means that this doesn’t become a big deal in how the rest of the world perceives her. she probably doesn’t want her image getting attatched to this kind of tragedy after experiencing such a big year for her career. and if she doesn’t comment on it, that’s easier to achieve. it’s cold and messed up but i can’t think of anything else that would explain her not even getting in touch with ana’s family.

exactly

she loves her fans

the north american and european fans

[Chartman]

3 hours ago, Velvet Night said:

As a fan of Taylor I’m disappointed that she seemingly still hasn't reached out to the family. It's pretty standard for an artist to contract the family for something like this and given how Taylor is normally so involved with her fans, I'm genuinely surprised she hasn't. There is definitely a way to reach out without admitting any liability. I don't know why people seem convinced her passing on condolences would somehow make her liable. That's really not how it works.

I really hope she will do the right thing soon and personally contact to the family. 

And what do you think keeps her back than? If she is not liable than all she would need is a phone and make a single call. Or donate money in an instant.

What has Taylor in her own mind that stops her 🤔

[Avenger]

Far from a Taylor fan and also can make sides with how she doesn't care as she's a rich celebrity but what I am not able to understand is that her whole image is White relatable girl who is kind and sweet and she cares of her brand too much this what boggles me how her team is taking even a day more to speak on this? 

 

I am sure she must feel devastated about this but like how she and her team is missing this opportunity to shine in the media and GP? 

 

 

[latingrl2005]

This is the same site that was soooooooo sure Kimye was telling the truth but we all founded out...So, ill be patient and wait to the end.

 

 

[SinnerCity]

Not people suddenly coming for Taylor as if they knew the reason she hasn’t said anything publicly yet.I don’t really think there’s a procedure in place for when a fan dies at your show so I can only imagine how the situation must be.
 

 People saying the least she should do is post on social media as if people wouldn’t drag her for filth if only she’d do that.  I really want to believe there’s a bigger picture and she is doing something to help that family so I’m not going to jump to conclusions just now.
 

My condolences are with the family and friends and I hope the production company gets sued. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by SinnerCity

[JayG]

I been told you all.. talentless, overrated, narcisstic and well... this. Let me move along swiftly.

[Phaunzie]

[ANG3L]

We all know if it was an American swiftie, things would be so much different... 

Edited November 22, 2023 by ANG3L

[diboy]

13 hours ago, Capris Groove said:

Also, I'm a little over all the 'Taylor wants to avoid litigation' BS. She would never be held criminally responsible obviously, and any remuneration she could pay would be peanuts to her. Isn't the whole point of having exorbitant amounts of wealth for situations like these?

 

The fact is, she's the captain of the ship. She gets all the glory when things go right (her tour being the event it is is a credit to thousands of people, but at the end of the day she gets the flowers), and therefore  she must be the leader when things don't go right.

I totally agree with you. Hope she says something because the family is hurting a lot.

[Lose My Breath]

Y'all are a mess

 

"She's not obligated"

 

No, but there is morally right or wrong.  She basically performed while her fan was dying, and her show, that she spent who knows how much money on, and absolutely NOTHING.  Her family had to PLEAD for money to get her body back, and NOTHING

 

Anyone defending that has no moral compass

[AvadaKedavra]

This is seriously so weird to me cause she's been so nice to people to the past. That thing of giving bonuses to her team and more things  Is one of the most confusing situations i ever seen.

One of my friends meet her in the Red Era and she was so nice to her. She has it on video. My friend is from here from Colombia, so she likes her latin fans. Selena is also her best friend and she's a latina 

Some explanations i give to this

 

1. She feels really guilty about the girl and thinks it's her fault. She doesn't know what to say to her family, and she believes it's better not to bother them because she's to blame for the death. She's just traumatized and doesn't want to talk about it. Her team told her to forget about it, so she has peace of mind and doesn't go into a breakdown mood again. 
 

2. Her team and Tree Paine don't want her to act because the lawsuits could be too many, as so many almost died in that concert. It is the legal way to act, and the legal battle could take years if things go wrong, like the Travis Scott situation. They told her is the right thing and everyone around her is not spilling how is the wrong morally thing to do and she at least needs to reach to the family. Dont know how the legal system works in brazil
....Like taylor said one time in the past. Her biggest fear in life is Going to Jail.  So she's doin everything in her power to avoid it.
 

3. She's evil and doesn't really care about the girl. The Taylor we know has a facade of sweetness, but behind the scenes, she is someone evil and racist and spoiled. She thinks of her non-US fans or the poor ones as less, and the girl who died is also mixed. Taylor would support her if she were blondie and blue-eyed like her but she's not. Zeenalavey reincarnated but more powerful. Watch out for the regina's george in sheeps clothing 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[gustavothehuman]

As a Brazilian fan I'm feeling extremely disappointed, it could have been me. If her team had contacted and supported Ana's family immediately this wouldn't even be a topic of news anymore and she would leave our country with sympathy points from the GP. Instead, Taylor chose silence and PR articles to cover everything up on international scale. I don't believe she is necessarily a horrible person but this was undeniably a horrible action. I never thought I would need to do a "separate the art from the artist" type of thing with one of my faves, she could dedicate her entire life to Ana's family now and it would still come out as insincere. And f*** however is trying to defend her from this.

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by gustavothehuman

[Kern]

20 hours ago, Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣 said:

She’s not obligated to say anything to us, because we’re not that girl’s family nor is it our business. She said her original statement and dedicated a performance to her. She’s probably handling this privately with her family, because, that’s a thing people can do. not everything needs to be done for your entertainment because you love a spectacle and deducing a woman’s death to stan drama. 
 

wanting an update is one thing, but thinking you’re ENTITLED to information that a family probably doesn’t want public, about a woman you probably don’t even care about so you can dunk on another woman you don’t even know is what’s really gross, nasty and insensitive. What’s even crazy is if Taylor did give you an update every two seconds you would scream she’s being performative. you don’t know what’s going on, so stop pretending that you do or that you can make the situation less complex than what it is.

 

That being said, if she chooses to speak out: great. if she doesn’t: good. I just hope that they can finally get her body and properly lay her to rest and that concert culture/etiquette/rules or whatever the **** gets reevaluated and changed. so many deaths could’ve been preventable had venues valued lives over a ******* dollar.

 

This is the problem coming from thinking that if something is not ‚reported’ on the twitter gossip account then it didn’t happen, completely forgetting that things are happening also outside of the internet but since thats the space that fans can’t reach it’s like it doesn’t exist to them

[gustavothehuman]

19 hours ago, unclefloprry said:

I saw on social media that the most painful thing about this and what some of her Brazilian fans are upset is because they think the things would be different if this mess had happened in the US.  

The reaction of Taylor, her team and the media would be different. Instead of an "uh, so sad, my condolences :/" post. 

We have every right to think so, yesterday Page Six and US Weekly reported that Taylor's team contacted the family only for them to debunk it. 

[gustavothehuman]

8 minutes ago, stupidjock said:

This is the problem coming from thinking that if something is not ‚reported’ on the twitter gossip account then it didn’t happen, completely forgetting that things are happening also outside of the internet but since thats the space that fans can’t reach it’s like it doesn’t exist to them

The thing that is happening outside the internet is that Taylor is still silent. Ana's family said yesterday that they have not been reached out yet.

[Selegend]

20 minutes ago, gustavothehuman said:

As a Brazilian fan I'm feeling extremely disappointed, it could have been me. If her team had contacted and supported Ana's family immediately this wouldn't even be a topic of news anymore and she would leave our country with sympathy points from the GP. Instead, Taylor chose silence and PR articles to cover everything up on international scale. I don't believe she is necessarily a horrible person but this was undeniably a horrible action. I never thought I would need to do a "separate the art from the artist" type of thing with one of my faves, she could dedicate her entire life to Ana's family now and it would still come out as insincere. And f*** however is trying to defend her from this.

 

waiting for her to say something has been agonizing. 

i already accepted that she'll probably only say anything when she's far away from Brazil but that will most likely block a fresh start from happening in São Paulo. Something all swifties wanted. 

 

and another sad thing is that i know most swifties are, at the same time sad for Ana ofc but kinda looking forward to forget about it during the show hours at least to enjoy their night in a carefree way.  something we've been dreaming about for years! 

but with her silence, the vibes will most likely be the same from Rio. the only difference will be the heat imo  honestly sad. 

 

i get that there's legal reasons, money reasons, contract reasons... but is it TRULY more important than all of this for a billionaire? i don't think so.... 

i don't know man i love taylor so much but it truly has been feeling like there's not a person behind the product. 

 

does it make sense? no. i know it doesn't! cuz even in PR it would be easier to do something, we all know that. 

but how can we feel any other way? 

gringos attacking us nonstop, taylor silent about Ana

we have to just keep trusting and trusting and trusting? 

oh god i feel like a crybaby here but i am sad.

and i wasn't yesterday!! yesterday i 100% gave Tay the benefit of the doubt, but today i woke up like this again 

it's been an emotion rollercoaster for us brazilian fans

Edited November 22, 2023 by Selegend

[AvadaKedavra]

Im honestly heartbroken of how everyone is ignoring this angel too.
He attended the concert and was a swiftie and killed just cause he went after the concert to the beach at night,

He had his friendship bracelet on  

Edited November 22, 2023 by AvadaKedavra

[Selegend]

5 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said:

Im honestly heartbroken of how everyone is ignoring this angel too.
He attended the concert and was a swiftie and killed just cause he went after the concert to the beach at night,
I was not aware rio was that dangerous
He had his friendship bracelet on  

it is dangerous but not that dangerous. taylor's weekend was something else. 

[Bacardo Royale]

Not Taylor becoming the female Travis Scott 

[DougAF]

7 hours ago, Prodigal Self said:

This dumb ass analogy. Y'all are so heartless it's insane. Like mama you got enough money to live on for 3000 years, pay up and offer your condolences. It's the least you can do. But TS is a corporation nowadays, so.

 

How is it a dumbass analogy? You show up and stand outside for 8 hours before the show starts, go into cardiac arrest during the first song. It isn’t like Taylor hasn’t acknowledged the situation, but the fans bitching about her not contacting the family immediately are SO weird. As if it’s not super tasteless to overshadow someone’s death, which is exactly what would happen. 
 

Some of you are so beyond dense and don’t live in the real world. 

[Credit]

hope she is planning some grand gesture to make it up to the victim's family. if she really doesn't do anything it will be off-brand for her and unjustifiable, really.