celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

[DougAF]

Imagine throwing a house party and someone that you don’t know showed up, drank too much, and died.
 

The people in here saying that she‘s obligated to do all of these things… some people on Twitter were saying she should attend the funeral…  

 

Mental Illness. 

 

 

 

[DougAF]

3 hours ago, peacok said:

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

Girl 

 

Even the world news on abc has talked about this two days in a row, with their small half hour time slot. Making **** up.

Edited November 22, 2023 by DougAF

[Lady Claire]

18 minutes ago, DougAF said:

Imagine throwing a house party and someone that you don’t know showed up, drank too much, and died.
 

The people in here saying that she‘s obligated to do all of these things… some people on Twitter were saying she should attend the funeral…  

 

Mental Illness. 

 

 

 

I'm not sure if you're acting dumb or if you're dumb dumb.

 

She's the biggest star on earth currently and if T4F did nothing then she should step up and take control of the situation, as it was her concert. What exactly is she scared of? A lawsuit? She's a billionaire, that should be nothing for her.

 

Actually people aren't even saying that she's obligated to pay for anything, but at least reach out the family in private to send condolences, just like anyone else would do... but not even that. If you think this is okay then you're the one with a mental illness.

 

[DougAF]

12 minutes ago, Lady Claire said:

I'm not sure if you're acting dumb or if you're dumb dumb.

 

She's the biggest star on earth currently and if T4F did nothing then she should step up and take control of the situation, as it was her concert. What exactly is she scared of? A lawsuit? She's a billionaire, that should be nothing for her.

 

Actually people aren't even saying that she's obligated to pay for anything, but at least reach out the family in private to send condolences, just like anyone else would do... but not even that. If you think this is okay then you're the one with a mental illness.

 

One lawsuit can suddenly open up 999 more from the others who fainted. 
 

Let me ask you something, if Taylor isn’t providing money, what the hell will reaching out to her family do? Does Taylor personally calling to say “I’m so sorry for your loss” make the mother feel better or provide some comfort about losing her daughter? She’s a complete ******* stranger and I’m sure the mother doesn’t give a flying **** about Taylor Swift.  

[Soda Pop Queen]

Hmmm, Taylor donates money to a lot of causes/people and we always manage to hear about it so the fact that she and her team have apparently said/done nothing concerning this deceased Swiftie is kinda odd and surprising.

 

Again, R.I.P. to Ana. In any event, I hope her family can put on a nice homegoing. Also, I feel like the city should help pay for the funeral since they were allowing outdoor concerts in hotter than hell weather. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Soda Pop Queen

[Rep2000]

10 hours ago, Sannie said:

Which, ultimately, was Taylor and her team. But at the same time, it is not always easy for a popstar to know if/when something is safe. The venue has to communicate with them as Taylor and her team are comfortable chilling backstage or in an air conditioned hotel. Taylor is not blameless.

This is a complete lie since it's Taylor and her team who went out of their ways to get fans water for free that night, while the venue charged people outrageous prices for literal *cup* of water and the security did nothing to help fans.

 

In fact, the venue's medic team allegedly treat dehydrated cases as "panic" and give them the wrong medicines that made it even worse!

 

And you can't say that "Taylor and her team were chilling in AC room" when she was literally *on stage* performing in that scorching heat while multitasking managing people to get more water. She was even filmed struggling to breath at the end of the show.

 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Rep2000

[Rune]

Fans in here are shaking at the devastating reality that this could have happened to any of them and their idolized goddess 1.) could not care less even if you buy every version of Midnights 2.) will trudge her feet to do the bare minimum.

 

You don't have to leap to her defense for every objective L she takes, she won't do the same for you.

[Rep2000]

6 hours ago, Miley Cyrus said:

Yikes her team is planting stories in the media. The amount of calculation and manipulation that is attached to this woman to uphold her image is crazy.

Y'all really think Taylor team would use Page Six as her planting stories media of choice?!?

Page Six!? Y'all have lost your damn minds.

[georgechxng]

i think if this had happened in the US, her and her team would’ve acted on it already but right now, she can afford to “lose” brazilian fans if it means that this doesn’t become a big deal in how the rest of the world perceives her. she probably doesn’t want her image getting attatched to this kind of tragedy after experiencing such a big year for her career. and if she doesn’t comment on it, that’s easier to achieve. it’s cold and messed up but i can’t think of anything else that would explain her not even getting in touch with ana’s family.

[She-Rah]

5 hours ago, poltergeist said:

She's probably counting the days 'till she leaves in her jet and doesn't have to set foot there ever again.

If your older than a teenager and you're set on defending this billionaire's behaviour there's something seriously wrong with your priorities. She doesn't care about you and you don't know her in the way that you think you do.

This

[Jotham]

18 minutes ago, Rune said:

Fans in here are shaking at the devastating reality that this could have happened to any of them and their idolized goddess 1.) could not care less even if you buy every version of Midnights 2.) will trudge her feet to do the bare minimum.

 

You don't have to leap to her defense for every objective L she takes, she won't do the same for you.

These are the same defenses they came to when Taylor was exposed for her excessive use of her private jet last year. They accuse anyone who simply tries to start a conversation about Taylor as "starting a stan war" when most of us are just trying to hold her accountable for problematic actions.

[More Than A Melody]

14 hours ago, Tusk said:

Agreed 

 

I keep saying that comorbidities need to be ruled out. She could have had an underlying illness that caused this in relation to the heat. 

How is this relevant in any way? She still died at the concert?? The point is literally that Taylor isn't at fault. Everyone with sense agrees with that. But the girl was her fan and she died, while Taylor was performing a couple of feet away. It's a tragic loss regardless of exactly how she died and for what reason.

 

If a fan collapsed and died in the middle of the show simply because of a terminal illness, I can assure you, people would expect Taylor to pay her condolences anyway.

 

What people have been saying over and over is that Taylor isn't at fault but it's tasteless to not offer condolences to the family. That T4F is at fault for the organization of the concert. And regardless of comorbidities, T4F was still negligent and put the lives of tens of thousands of people at risk to save a couple hundred dollars and to be petty. Why should any of us care if Ana had any underlying illnesses in this case? Are you trying to defend T4F and save them litigation fees? Why do you even bring this up? WHO TF CARES? 

[MissedTheTrain]

I'm....genuinely perplexed at the downvoting in here to some logical points and the way people don't seem to understand that there's clearly more at play here?  Can we use our brains for a second?

 

Even if you for some reason think Taylor is some sort of heartless calculated person, something you can't deny is that she IS a PR machine.  Not reaching out to the family/paying for the funeral is bad press, and an extremely easy fix would be to reach out to the family, cut them a check, etc.  The fact that she isn't doing that simple thing, which is something she HAS done countless times in the past in similar situations....there's pretty clearly more going on with this situation.

 

If she says or does anything that could be even insinuating at admitting fault, it could backfire on her.  The event company won't hesitate to throw the blame back on her to get it off their backs, one lawsuit could result in many more from people who were there and had medical issues, etc.

[spiritboy]

Maybe she’s giving the family the time to grief before reaching out? 

[sciencemagic]

7 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said:

I'm....genuinely perplexed at the downvoting in here to some logical points and the way people don't seem to understand that there's clearly more at play here?  Can we use our brains for a second?

 

Even if you for some reason think Taylor is some sort of heartless calculated person, something you can't deny is that she IS a PR machine.  Not reaching out to the family/paying for the funeral is bad press, and an easy fix would be to reach out to the family, pay for the funeral, etc.  The fact that she isn't doing that simple thing, which is something she HAS done countless times in the past in similar situations....there's pretty clearly more going on with this situation.

 

If she says or does anything that could be even insinuating at admitting fault, it could backfire on her.  The event company won't hesitate to throw the blame back on her to get it off their backs, one lawsuit could result in many more from people who were there and had medical issues, etc.

Well at least there's one person in this thread with common sense! Some of y'all are really dumb... grandstanding on ATRL of all places. 

[Prodigal Self]

3 hours ago, DougAF said:

Imagine throwing a house party and someone that you don’t know showed up, drank too much, and died.

This dumb ass analogy. Y'all are so heartless it's insane. Like mama you got enough money to live on for 3000 years, pay up and offer your condolences. It's the least you can do. But TS is a corporation nowadays, so.

 

[sciencemagic]

5 hours ago, Xtina23 said:

I'm almost positive her public response is going to be something around the lines of "I've been thinking about what to say these past couple of days..."

to avoid any accountability/damage to her image. I've worked with PR before. SMH.

Hope no one forgets that Taylor didn't treat another human with the minimum respect after passing.

What accountability, exactly? You and others are going to hold her accountable for... waiting a few days to reach out to the family of a fan who passed away at her concert? Seriously? In 5 years you think THAT's what we and the family are going to remember? That Taylor Swift waited maybe 7 days instead of 2 to reach out? 

 

"minimum respect" I think is actually waiting a few days to contact the family. In the immediate grief her parents are feeling, do you really think they want to have a conversation with some woman who they probably don't care about, who didn't know their daughter at all? 

[Miley Cyrus]

3 hours ago, DougAF said:

Imagine throwing a house party and someone that you don’t know showed up, drank too much, and died.
 

The people in here saying that she‘s obligated to do all of these things… some people on Twitter were saying she should attend the funeral…  

 

Mental Illness. 

 

 

 

This wasn’t the own that you thought it was…

 

 

[Uncatena]

i’m so ******* tired of this situation being made about Taylor when a young girl died because of poor planning. we should be criticizing the organization of the event, and demand better organization and safety at shows of this scale period. 

[Velvet Night]

As a fan of Taylor I’m disappointed that she seemingly still hasn't reached out to the family. It's pretty standard for an artist to contract the family for something like this and given how Taylor is normally so involved with her fans, I'm genuinely surprised she hasn't. There is definitely a way to reach out without admitting any liability. I don't know why people seem convinced her passing on condolences would somehow make her liable. That's really not how it works.

I really hope she will do the right thing soon and personally contact to the family. 

[POPTART]

I'm actually surprised she still hasn't done anything. I know it's not her fault this happened, but at least give condolences to the family, it's a human thing to do? 

 

Not sure if there's something going on in the background, but considering that everthing around her has been so public lately, you would have expected she would act quick with this one. 

[Outlaws]

People saying "let's give her the benefit of doubt", until when?

Not contacting the family on the very first day was already late enough. 

 

My God.

[KatyPrismSpirit]

So she paid Page Six to lie? Shes a disgusting person if she seriously isn’t going to reach out. Even Travis Scott reached out.

[Cloudy]

She's such a despicable human being. One of the most unlikable people on Earth and her cult are even worse

[Badgalbriel]

8 minutes ago, houdini said:

So she paid Page Six to lie? Shes a disgusting person if she seriously isn’t going to reach out. Even Travis Scott reached out.

Page Six is not her go to media outlet. It's usually People Magazine. You're jumping to conclusions