Popular Post poltergeist Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 Shame on anyone who is trying to make the family seem like opportunists. A girl is DEAD. To you she's just a number in a crowd of fans or an inconvenience to your fave's career, but she was a daughter, a sister, a cousin, a best friend. We can't even begin to comprehend their pain. Ana and her family don't deserve this silence and being forgotten after a few days. 33 3
LastGreatBloodline Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, By the Water said: I'm going to see her on Saturday lol I'm well aware of everything you just said. But that's the point, fans got too invested in it to the point where they started overstepping some boundaries. I'm sure the family will come out and ask for anything they need. If fans want to do something without them asking they should be pressuring T4F and the authorities about the investigation since that has completely gone by without much explanation as well sorry I had no idea you were brazilian too I went to the sunday show I agree fans are always doing too much and I'm glad they followed through with the families wishes. I'm just so angry and annoyed at US fans (for the most part) giving their horrible and ignorant opinions all over social media. And yes we should definitely pressure T4F since they are criminals all around. Brazilian fans are living in the trenches with the entire international fandom + brazilian GP against us. 2
Popboi. Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation. Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. The family is not "entitled", they lost their daughter and don't have the means to even give her a proper funeral in their own town... they're not invested in negative attention. Yes there are credible allegations of negligence, but they don't concern Taylor's team. So her not speaking up is not about avoiding a potential lawsuit. The choices (and lack of) that lead to her passing all point to the promoters, they didn't do anything to cancel out the extreme heat hazard - if anything only made it worse by shutting down the venue's ventilation. - Regarding the OP, can y'all wait until her parents (you know, the ones that were allegedly contacted and wouldn't post "as far as we know") say something instead of jumping the gun instantly on any opportunity to drag without knowing the whole picture (as always). The article came directly from Taylor's PR, lying about it would only cause her more harm than good and we ALL know her or her team would never risk something of that magnitude. 1
RideOrDie Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, réveuse said: I am angry about the fact that the news that Miss Benevdies' family got in contact with Taylor was a LIE and you think she went out of her way to plant a fake story with page six out of all publications for PR when it could be easily debunked? that the so-called mastermind would make such a silly and disrespectful move for the 3 readers of page six? obviously it wasn't her who lied about it so maybe channel your anger toward healthier things 5 6
on the line Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, réveuse said: A FAN DIED AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT A SPELLING MISTAKE!?!?!? LMAOOO A fan died and your unhinged reaction is to yell "**** you taylor swift" on a pop music forum? Sorry, I'm not buying your outrage. 4 14
Popular Post bad guy Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: except she did pay her respects on social media and dedicate a segment of her concert to the victim... A quick story on Instagram and singing one of her songs for 3 minutes with zero context is below even the barest of minimums of what she should have done. Especially for an artist that has made her entire career about loving her fans, and even encourages the parasocial aspect her fans have with her. She was more vocal about a ridiculous joke on some Netflix show than about a fan of hers literally dying. Cut to these PR articles about how Travis is "helping her through all this " is so planted and gross. Grotesque actually. I don't know how she sleeps at night sitting on the hundreds of millions of dollars her FANS put in her pocket and not do everything in her power to set this family up for life. Or even dedicating a real post that doesn't expire after 24 hours. It's seriously indefensible. 18 8 4
RobynYoBank Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Edu said: wtf the reporter was the one who asked her family if the page six article was true, not the other way around It may very well be the way the articles have been worded, rather than the actions of the family. The articles I’ve read have been very focused on assigning blame, which is natural for any family in that position, but also something to be wary of if people are trying capitalize on litigation. I am curious whether there was actual negligence or if it was simply a tragic accident. Personally, I think the family will hear from Taylor and have transportation, etc. paid for even if it hasn’t happened yet.
RideOrDie Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, bad guy said: A quick story on Instagram and singing one of her songs for 3 minutes with zero context is below even the barest of minimums of what she should have done. Especially for an artist that has made her entire career about loving her fans, and even encourages the parasocial aspect her fans have with her. She was more vocal about a ridiculous joke on some Netflix show than about a fan of hers literally dying. Cut to these PR articles about how Travis is "helping her through all this " is so planted and gross. Grotesque actually. I don't know how she sleeps at night sitting on the hundreds of millions of dollars her FANS put in her pocket and not do everything in her power to set this family up for life. Or even dedicating a real post that doesn't expire after 24 hours. It's seriously indefensible. your abnormal parasocial hatred for an artist you don't know disguised by your cloak of righteousness never fails to surprise me 8 6
Starchild Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Brikenbur said: TRAILOR indeed!! Shut up you weird ass loser, you are literally nobody to say anything when you’ve insulted her fans repeatedly, don’t pretend to give a **** when you think it’s just some funny “DrAg” 4 6
Popboi. Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, réveuse said: I am angry about the fact that the news that Miss Benevdies' family got in contact with Taylor was a LIE There's NOTHING pointing out to the alleged contact being a lie, chill for a damn second why on earth would a report planted by Taylor's own team be a blatant lie.
Moloko Plus Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Miley Cyrus said: Yikes her team is planting stories in the media. The amount of calculation and manipulation that is attached to this woman to uphold her image is crazy. Let’s put on our thinking cap on for one second… why would her team be planting stories in the media if they were easily disprovable (as in this exact particular case)? Y’all need to be patient, it’s clear from the media bumrush Taylor and her team will do something for the family
Starchild Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, claws said: I'm a brazilian swiftie, and have been following taylor since 1989 era and i'm honestly very disappointed with her. last week i was so down cause i wouldn't be able to go to this week's concert, but after everything that has happened, my feelings have changed. everything she has done regarding what happened feels so so bad, i am surpriesed as a fan, because as someone who basically built a whole career based on saying and demonstrating she loves her fans, i can't help but feel bittersweet and to wonder if the situation would be different if it happend in the US and with an american fan. but at the end, rich people will always be rich This is miraculously your first post? 1 2
Digitalism Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 This is PR nightmare and she will be asked about this for years to come unless she does something quick
4Real Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, claws said: I'm a brazilian swiftie, and have been following taylor since 1989 era and i'm honestly very disappointed with her. last week i was so down cause i wouldn't be able to go to this week's concert, but after everything that has happened, my feelings have changed. Same thing here. I was supposed to be in the nov 18th show that was postponed but i couldn't attend it on the 20th. I was sad at first, but i understand it was the best decision to make. After all this, i just... don't feel any sad about not being able to stay in Rio to see her. Like good for the fans who still feel the same way about her but I can't.
Axolotl Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Same old thread where atrlers use personal tragedies in stan wars, have fun in hell 10
liquiddiamonds Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: It may very well be the way the articles have been worded, rather than the actions of the family. The articles I’ve read have been very focused on assigning blame, which is natural for any family in that position, but also something to be wary of if people are trying capitalize on litigation. I am curious whether there was actual negligence or if it was simply a tragic accident. Personally, I think the family will hear from Taylor and have transportation, etc. paid for even if it hasn’t happened yet. The family has not assigned blame to anyone. That’s not the tone at all they are using. Whatever you are reading is not being truthful. They are not even going to the media. They literally gave one interview, thanked fans in a social media video for the support with expenses and now debunked this article. You are completely out of the loop and you came saying awful things about them moreover, transportation was already covered by fans. the body has already arrived to her hometown 8 1
Xtina23 Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I'm almost positive her public response is going to be something around the lines of "I've been thinking about what to say these past couple of days..." to avoid any accountability/damage to her image. I've worked with PR before. SMH. Hope no one forgets that Taylor didn't treat another human with the minimum respect after passing. 6 2 6
starsailor Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I’m a brazilian and, as all you might know, brazilians stans are one of the most wild fanbases out there. The way people here demonstrate love for their idols is out of this world, and when the artist reciprocate the love, the artist will always be remembered here. Always. Madonna, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Gaga, Katy Perry… they will receive all the love they need here. Taylor Swift? Hmmm… not that much. The way Taylor Swift is unnable to show empathy to her own fan is horrible, to say the minimum. And all the horrible things I’ve seen her fans saying about Brazil is disgusting. That “I won’t say anything because I’m so sad…” is a total BS. I’m happy that I’m not a fan. And the way some of you are talking about Ana’s family is inhuman. They wasn’t even trying to receive millions, if that’s what you are thinking. They only wanted help (and not from Taylor, specifically) to bring her daughter’s body back to her city because they didn’t have the money to do it. And they never said it was Taylor’s fault. Her mom even said that what brings her a glimpse of relief is to know that Ana lived her best day of her life and could live her dream to see Taylor, cause Ana loved Taylor more than anything. 9 2
Popular Post brazil Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, KingWitch said: I feel like arguing with swifties about this is pointless because all they know how to do is defend their fave,whether she's right or wrong their job is spin the narrative in her favour .... basically like all Stan's out there They really should be getting more from her but she's seemingly just going to write a check and move on from this whole thing because it's not good for her image . Honestly, I feel like other stans would be calling their favs out more (except maybe the Hive ). Ana died in her concert, which she saved for months to be able to go, wearing an "I ❤️ T.S." t-shirt: I'm not sure if it's racism or xenophobia, but it's odd how swfities are more worried about finding excuses and trying to preserve Taylor's well curated image, instead of demanding that she would help out the family of a fan just like them. 38
Popular Post KKW Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 The BRAINLESS fans in here acting like that Page Six article was something the publication just pulled out of their ass ALL celebrities/their teams plant stories to various news outlets and Taylor is literally one of the best when it comes to PR (which Swifties praise her for ironically enough). It was tacky for her to do that and good on the family for calling her and her camp out 13 3 1
CaptainMusic Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Absolutely disgusting Seems very unlike Taylor but maybe she’s showing her true colours. People talking about imaginary lawsuits as if she a BILLIONAIRE can’t hire the best lawyers to defend her case if it came to that 6 1
Marry The Gods Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Her evil fans trying to paint her family as money hungry crooks Ya'll really are a cult. 9
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted November 22, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 22, 2023 Taylor has pretty much always stepped in and helped in times like these. I think it's pretty clear that there's more going on (an impeding lawsuit, most likely) and she has to be extremely careful to not give anyone any reason to put her at fault. People are jumping to some pretty insane conclusions. 9 2 14
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