Starchild Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Ariana’s tragedy was the result of a terrorist attack, so the responsible party was known relatively shortly after the incident occurred. In this case, Ana’s death was not due to intentional actions from anyone, but from negligence. While the responsible party from the facts we know is the concert promoter, T4F, we don’t know if there is an ongoing investigation - potentially even criminal in nature - into the negligent conditions that lead to her passing. That is the most likely reason, in my opinion, that the parties involved with the situation have been relatively quiet and may not have made contact with the family. Taylor and her team are likely working closely with lawyers not because of the fear of a lawsuit, as a lot of people in this and other threads have speculated, but because someone dying because of a lack of expected amenities and protections is potentially an extremely serious matter, on top of being a terrible tragedy. Let’s not forget that another thousand fans or more are said to have experienced significant symptoms requiring hospitalization - this is potentially a massive situation in which some party, likely T4F, could be found criminally liable. I’m sorry but these morons have been foaming at the mouth to have something and every single reply to you will be “can’t you see objectively for Once!1!!” like dumb sheep from the same people over and over. They can get internet brownie points all they want but nobody truly believes these sick fucks actually cared about that girl. Spewing a lot of crap yet never donated either. Such amazing people that totally helped this situation 2 1 1 3
Shelter Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation. Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. Wtf You want them to be silent and go away? 8
Popular Post 4Real Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: except she did pay her respects on social media and dedicate a segment of her concert to the victim... She didn't even mention the girl's name 14 1
dumbsparce Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kexin said: What is there to lie about? How can we assume she is lying from a single statement? I saw another thread that said that Taylor/ her team had contacted the fan's family. Who do you think would break those news if not Taylor's team themselves? Edited November 22, 2023 by dumbsparce 1
Venice B Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 The most disheartening thing about this whole situation is the fact that most people simply don't seem to care. The GP seems to be unaware of the situation since all major outlets are too busy publishing articles about her relationship with Travis, and the swifties (north american ones, mostly) seem to not give a damn about it either. At the end of the day that Page Six article will suffice because I doubt the GP will get too invested in the matter. Sad. 4 3
PoisonPill Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dreamer2023 said: This is not a stan fight again… You’re more worried about you fave’s reputation which tells a lot. She is known for her good will and donations for her american fans. Why isnt she being kind and empathetic for a brazilian fan? Again, you and others here are making arguments using circular logic. Your conclusion is based upon facts that we don't know but are being assumed. So, it is pointless to continue this conversation.
4Real Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation. Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. The family seems rather entitled??? They lost their child, get real!!! 2
Venice B Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation. Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. Their daughter literally died. 6
réveuse Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation. Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. THEIR DAUGHTER DIED. You and Taylor go F yourselves. Edited November 22, 2023 by réveuse 3 2 3 1
on the line Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, réveuse said: THERE DAUGHTER DIED. You and Taylor go F yourselves. @ATRL Administration - you need to do something. People are losing it. 2 1 15
réveuse Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, on the line said: @ATRL Administration - you need to do something. People are losing it. Excuse you? I have a right to express my anger. 1
Bimbo Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, 4Real said: She didn't even mention the girl's name That's actually ****** up 8 3
somuch4you Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 16 minutes ago, RideOrDie said: why are you saying she is silent when she posted a story about the girl on her social media? am i missing something here like what else do you want her to say... please enlighten me In fact, Taylor never mentioned the girl's name. Neither in her stories nor at the show. Since the incident, she has been pretending that this is not her problem. And although she is not the one to blame, she could have showed more empathy, especially when her own fans need to pay to transport Ana's body, while she remained absolutely silent. 4 2
airplane Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Are we surprised? She’s only here for the money and selling her 39 cent singles 1
More Than A Melody Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I asked yesterday to be explained like a child why Travis Scott paid for the funeral of the fans who died at his show if it was "opening him up to be liable" even though he was 100% more liable than Taylor (who isn't liable at all). The only person who replied was a Brazilian explaining that there's no such legalities. I really need Swifties to stop using that excuse. It's not a valid excuse. She could've and should've reached out to the family, she could've and should've paid for the body to get to her hometown AND the funeral. It's getting a little tiring to have to say "she's obviously not to blame for Ana's death but..." I do hope she eventually does it, but four days is an extremely long time to wait for something like this. A fan died at her concert while she was performing, and she hasn't uttered the fan's name once. And people are acting like that's not preposterous. 5 8
on the line Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, réveuse said: Excuse you? I have a right to express my anger. Log off and go for a walk. Nature is therapeutic. Or at least learn to use the correct form for there/their/they're if you're going to rant like a lunatic yelling at celebrities on a platform they will never see. 1 1 14
PoisonPill Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, campelo said: I am so disappointed at her and I pray that this will haunt her for the longest time possible. I want this to haunt her everytime she puts her head on her pillow Not you telling people they need mental health treatment, then posting this 60 seconds later Edited November 22, 2023 by PoisonPill 2 1 3
crymelanie Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 i'm so glad i unstanned ha greedy ass 2 years ago 3
byzantium Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 minute ago, réveuse said: Excuse you? I have a right to express my anger. Its a tragedy but what are you angry about?
Popular Post KingWitch Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 22, 2023 I feel like arguing with swifties about this is pointless because all they know how to do is defend their fave,whether she's right or wrong their job is spin the narrative in her favour .... basically like all Stan's out there They really should be getting more from her but she's seemingly just going to write a check and move on from this whole thing because it's not good for her image . 19
By the Water Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, LastGreatBloodline said: I get what you are saying but you have to acknowledge that you have a view from far away, based mostly on international press. Ana's parents went to biggest network in Brazil to talk about their daughter's passing and ask for help after none of the millionaires moved a finger. Brazilian fans were the ones who mobilized to help. The whole situation is making brazilian fans (and the GP, which is massively attacking taylor) feel disappointed, because it goes against everything Taylor usually stands for. Meanwhile, it seems like the entire world is attacking brazilian fans and saying very mean things about the country as a whole. Meanwhile, Taylor clearly rushed all the breaks show on monday, skipping the post-champagne problems applause for the first time on the tour, to avoid giving fans any time to protest. And now there are international publications spreading lies about the family. It's all a huge scandal here in Brazil, while internationally it's just an online, clickbait subject. The family can hope to be in peace now only because the FANS helped them move their daughter's body back home. Brazilian fans who went to the concerts and helped the family are way more involved in the situation than international stans putting their fingers into it and treating everything like another stan war. And clearly publications like Page Six lying about the situation are the ones who actually aren't leaving the family alone. I'm going to see her on Saturday lol I'm well aware of everything you just said. But that's the point, fans got too invested in it to the point where they started overstepping some boundaries. I'm sure the family will come out and ask for anything they need. If fans want to do something without them asking they should be pressuring T4F and the authorities about the investigation since that has completely gone by without much explanation as well 1
réveuse Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 Just now, byzantium said: Its a tragedy but what are you angry about? I am angry about the fact that the news that Miss Benevdies' family got in contact with Taylor was a LIE 1 1
Blue. Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Miley Cyrus said: Yikes her team is planting stories in the media. The amount of calculation and manipulation that is attached to this woman to uphold her image is crazy. Pleased we are talking about Tree. If she was planting anything you would see it in the New York Times, Variety and NME not on Page Six.
réveuse Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, on the line said: Log off and go for a walk. Nature is therapeutic. Or at least learn to use the correct form for there/their/they're if you're going to rant like a lunatic yelling at celebrities on a platform they will never see. A FAN DIED AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT A SPELLING MISTAKE!?!?!? LMAOOO
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