celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

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Travis Kelce has been ‘huge support system’ for Taylor Swift after fan’s death: ‘She is so grateful’

I don't care if it's PageSix or Taylor's PR team but this headline is one big massive disaster and distasteful over a sensitive topic.

 

 

[barbiegrande]

1 minute ago, Dear Reader said:

I think there’s a major difference between a terrorist attack and negligence from the promoter. 

 

1 minute ago, byzantium said:

Well that was a terrorist attack.  No one was blaming Ariana. 

True, and lemme be clear I agree. But I would assume the venue could be sued for lack of security 

[RideOrDie]

2 minutes ago, bad guy said:

But if this happened somewhere in the US, where she has spent her career alongside her PR team to craft the perfect image, she would have immediately paid her respects on social media, dedicated a post to the victim, paid for the funeral, and be strategically photographed at/going to the funeral as well. 

 

Her inability to not be self-serving is borderline diabolical. 

except she did pay her respects on social media and dedicate a segment of her concert to the victim... 

[Dreamer2023]

2 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

 

why are you saying she is silent when she posted a story about the girl on her social media? am i missing something here like what else do you want her to say... please enlighten me

When I say silence i mean words to the ones that matter: Ana’s family, not us. Not an IG story. It’s the very least she could do. Dont you see that’s wrong? Is it so hard for you to judge objectively your fave?

[réveuse]

I'll be real.

 

 

I have nothing nice to say to Taylor Swift. F her for her evilness. I AM SO DONE BEING A SWIFTIE!!!!!

[Dear Reader]

2 minutes ago, perpetual novice said:

The excuse that she could be sued for apologising is legitimately crazy. The law doesn’t work like that & even if it did, she can afford to lose a few coins.

She doesn’t need to apologize, please  I agree that she should indeed reach out and help Ana’s family but she has NOTHING to apologize for, she has done nothing wrong. The promoters did. 

[Cruel Summer]

8 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

I’m confused about the legalities. When stuff like Manchester happened, why did Ariana not have to worry about admission of guilt or being sued?

Ariana’s tragedy was the result of a terrorist attack, so the responsible party was known relatively shortly after the incident occurred. In this case, Ana’s death was not due to intentional actions from anyone, but from negligence. While the responsible party from the facts we know is the concert promoter, T4F, we don’t know if there is an ongoing investigation - potentially even criminal in nature - into the negligent conditions that lead to her passing. That is the most likely reason, in my opinion, that the parties involved with the situation have been relatively quiet and may not have made contact with the family. Taylor and her team are likely working closely with lawyers not because of the fear of a lawsuit, as a lot of people in this and other threads have speculated, but because someone dying because of a lack of expected amenities and protections is potentially an extremely serious legal matter, on top of being a terrible tragedy. Let’s not forget that another thousand fans or more are said to have experienced significant symptoms requiring hospitalization - this is potentially a massive situation in which some party, likely T4F, could be found criminally liable.

[wish]

Taylor is one of the most self-centered and calculated celebrities out there. Imagine denying this in 2023.

 

It's blatantly clear to me that Taylor would only help Ana's family if it resulted in more money in her pocket.

 

 

[kexin]

Absolutely no one in here is a legal expert or should even make assumptions about what is going on behind the scenes. Clearly this is something that is developing.

 

Ana’s family’s response was towards a report that did not even have a legitimate source.

[campelo]

34 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

If she is documented apologizing for the death, it could absolutely expose her civil claims. When you have that level of wealth and power, everyone sees an opportunity to get rich in any way possible. She's also in a foreign country with a lot of corruption in the legal and political system. Any decent lawyer would tell her to not make any public statements yet, beyond the letter she already released. 

The parents of the girl didn't even had the money to pay for fees to transport the body, do you think they would go in a legal battle?

 

are you guys that ******* blind? this fandom need to check their mental health and urgent. 

[dumbsparce]

Idk how Taylor let this get so out of hand. Contacting the family should be the first thing she did after the tragic news came out. I understand that it might have been challenging to find info on the girl's family but why make up lies during the process?

[Jeremiah]

14 minutes ago, peacok said:

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

The Taylor propaganda in the US is so strong that it even had Biden backtracking mid-sentence when referring to it in his speech.

 

OT: I think Taylor has no responsibility in this unfortunate death but she could show some tact especially after dedicating the fan a song.

[Shelter]

7 minutes ago, on the line said:

This. I'm embarrassed to be part of this forum and disappointed mods let this trolling continue. 

You can always delete your account. You’d be the first dragging a certain other artist if it was her, but because it’s your fav, you stand by it.  

[kexin]

Just now, dumbsparce said:

Idk how Taylor let this get so out of hand. Contacting the family should be the first thing she did after the tragic news came out. I understand that it might have been challenging to find info on the girl's family but why make up lies during the process?

What is there to lie about? How can we assume she is lying from a single statement?

[campelo]

I am so disappointed at her and I pray that this will haunt her for the longest time possible. I want this to haunt her everytime she puts her head on her pillow

 

 

[perpetual novice]

3 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

She doesn’t need to apologize, please  I agree that she should indeed reach out and help Ana’s family but she has NOTHING to apologize for, she has done nothing wrong. The promoters did. 

She still chose to work with this promoter. I’m not saying it’s her fault somebody died, but apologising is the right thing to do…

[kexin]

2 minutes ago, wish said:

Taylor is one of the most self-centered and calculated celebrities out there. Imagine denying this in 2023.

 

It's blatantly clear to me that Taylor would only help Ana's family if it resulted in more money in her pocket.

 

 

true, stream the 30th by Billie

[Edu]

it sucks that we have to argue over something that should be universally accepted

[Peak Now]

1 minute ago, wish said:

Taylor is one of the most self-centered and calculated celebrities out there. Imagine denying this in 2023.

 

It's blatantly clear to me that Taylor would only help Ana's family if it resulted in more money in her pocket.

 

 

You're weird.

 

https://rockstarronan.com/2012/09/09/hey-maya-its-taylor-swift/

[RobynYoBank]

The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation.
 

Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by RobynYoBank

[Taylena]

5 minutes ago, Perfect Blue said:

@Taylena I just KNOW the palms of those hands are sweaty from tediously monitoring every post in this thread and furiously smacking the thumbs down button when someone doesn't express unconditional love for Taylor Swift.

 

Unglue yourself from that soiled, pissy computer chair & go take a shower. Then you need brush the roaches off those moldy stacks of plates and bring them into the kitchen & wash them. Finally, log off and go touch some grass.

So.. you and your fellow deranged and obsessed beyond sanity OTHs who spend hours in threads like this just spiting pure vile and hate at Taylor can be described as what?  

[Dear Reader]

Just now, perpetual novice said:

She still chose to work with this promoter. I’m not saying it’s her fault somebody died, but apologising is the right thing to do…

You mean she could’ve guessed this would happen but had a CHOICE to work with the promoter?  what is your point and what does she need to apologize for regarding Ana’s passing? 

[LastGreatBloodline]

10 minutes ago, By the Water said:

The family didn't make a statement. This information came from a journalist. And PageSix made up a lot of stories about Taylor recently by claiming they had "sources close to Taylor" so it shouldn't be surprising that they lied again. I mean, that entire article was just weird, no?

 

Yesterday fans got in touch with the family because they were planning a protest at the show and they had to tell them to change it. I feel like a lot of fans just want to feel better about themselves but the thing is we'll have a lot of time to judge Taylor's actions or lack there of. And you can still do that and leave the family in peace

I get what you are saying but you have to acknowledge that you have a view from far away, based mostly on international press. 

Ana's parents went to biggest network in Brazil to talk about their daughter's passing and ask for help after none of the millionaires moved a finger. Brazilian fans were the ones who mobilized to help. The whole situation is making brazilian fans (and the GP, which is massively attacking taylor) feel disappointed, because it goes against everything Taylor usually stands for. Meanwhile, it seems like the entire world is attacking brazilian fans and saying very mean things about the country as a whole. Meanwhile, Taylor clearly rushed all the breaks show on monday, skipping the post-champagne problems applause for the first time on the tour, to avoid giving fans any time to protest. And now there are international publications spreading lies about the family. 

It's all a huge scandal here in Brazil, while internationally it's just an online, clickbait subject. 

The family can hope to be in peace now only because the FANS helped them move their daughter's body back home. Brazilian fans who went to the concerts and helped the family are way more involved in the situation than international stans putting their fingers into it and treating everything like another stan war. And clearly publications like Page Six lying about the situation are the ones who actually aren't leaving the family alone.  

[Edu]

1 minute ago, RobynYoBank said:

The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation.
 

Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. 

wtf

the reporter was the one who asked her family if the page six article was true, not the other way around

[kexin]

2 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said:

The family seems rather entitled and invested in bringing negative attention to the situation.
 

Are there credible allegations of negligence? I’m not accustomed to venues in the US allowing you to bring in water or outside drinks either. She seemed young and healthy; unfortunately, freak accidents happen. 

They should be entitled considering this is an unfortunate event that happened to them. Why should they not? This is urgency, not entitlement. Think about your wording.