celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

[jqnetto]

no way 

[peacok]

18 minutes ago, Big Bad Wolf said:

Like I said, if this happened in Taylor’s home country, she would have quickly issued a statement and covered their expenses. Seems like Taylor doesn’t value her international fans as much. So disgraceful for an artist of her caliber. 

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

[Shelter]

Just now, RideOrDie said:

PLEASE some of you touch grass omg  using the death of someone to try and paint an artist you don't like in a bad light... the lowest is WHAT. y'all are more disrespectful to this girl's memory than whatever taylor is or isn't doing with the way you are using it for stan wars and ****

Paint her in a bad light, she is doing that by herself. 

[Capris Groove]

Again, let's assume the WORST from this grieving family, and say that they decide to use Taylor Swift's condolences or compensation against her, as 'proof' and they sue her? And not only that, but they somehow win against her top notch legal defense? And miraculously, they get awarded $10 million USD?

 

All of this is basically implausible, but let's assume this for argument's sake.

 

So what? Again, isn't the point of accruing such exorbitant wealth for situations like these? That you become so impossibly rich that you can shoulder phony fines, litigation, etc? $10 million USD to a billionaire is literally what $1 is if we have $100.

 

It's not an excuse to do nothing, sorry.

Edited November 22, 2023 by Capris Groove

[PoisonPill]

Just now, Dreamer2023 said:

Taylor has not reached out the victim’s family and has not supported them economically. Isnt that enough for you? “I should not stan a millionaire” repeat with me please 

The girl tragically died four days ago. It took a full day to even get info from authorities on what actually happened. And it's not like Taylor Swift can just swipe open her venmo account and hit send. Arranging to transfer a large sum of money to the girl's family would need to be signed off by her legal and accounting teams as well as an attorney with expertise in Brazilian tax law to make sure the payment is properly declared. And during this brief time, she's also performed two additional 4-hour stadium shows.

 

In short... there are moves being made in private that we aren't going to hear about until they're already done.

[Dreamer2023]

2 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

PLEASE some of you touch grass omg  using the death of someone to try and paint an artist you don't like in a bad light... the lowest is WHAT. y'all are more disrespectful to this girl's memory than whatever taylor is or isn't doing with the way you are using it for stan wars and ****

Ana is the victim here, not your fave. Stop trying to make it seem like this is a stan fight. People are just surprised and disappointed for her silence and lack of empathy in this situation

[liquiddiamonds]

1 minute ago, PoisonPill said:

The girl tragically died four days ago. It took a full day to even get info from authorities on what actually happened. And it's not like Taylor Swift can just swipe open her venmo account and hit send. Arranging to transfer a large sum of money to the girl's family would need to be signed off by her legal and accounting teams as well as an attorney with expertise in Brazilian tax law to make sure the payment is properly declared. And during this brief time, she's also performed two additional 4-hour stadium shows.

 

In short... there are moves being made in private that we aren't going to hear about until they're already done.

Girl you asked for facts and dropped this whole ass fanfic…

[Dear Reader]

2 minutes ago, Capris Groove said:

Again, let's assume the WORST from this grieving family, and say that they decide to use Taylor Swift's condolences or compensation against her, as 'proof' and they sue her? And not only that, but they somehow win against her top notch legal defense? And miraculously, they get awarded $10 million USD?

 

All of this is basically implausible, but let's assume this for argument's sake.

 

So what? Again, isn't the point of accuing such exorbitant wealth for situations like these? That you become so impossibly rich that you can shoulder phony fines, litigation, etc? $10 million USD to a billionaire is literally what $1 is if we have $100.

 

It's not an excuse to do nothing, sorry.

While I agree that would be absolutely nothing for Taylor to pay, why would she want to be considered guilty IF there’s that possibility at stake? (Again, I know nothing about law, I’m just going by your argument)

Edited November 22, 2023 by Dear Reader

[Dreamer2023]

3 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

The girl tragically died four days ago. It took a full day to even get info from authorities on what actually happened. And it's not like Taylor Swift can just swipe open her venmo account and hit send. Arranging to transfer a large sum of money to the girl's family would need to be signed off by her legal and accounting teams as well as an attorney with expertise in Brazilian tax law to make sure the payment is properly declared. And during this brief time, she's also performed two additional 4-hour stadium shows.

 

In short... there are moves being made in private that we aren't going to hear about until they're already done.

Ok I do get that part of the money situation that may take a little bit more but why the silence or where is promise of a financial support? 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Dreamer2023

[Peak Now]

4 minutes ago, peacok said:

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

Avoiding international attention by posting about the death on her Instagram which is followed by 277M users worldwide? Please

[Edu]

12 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

Never said that either. By the way, relying on sarcasm makes you sound like a 3rd grader.

because blaming a whole ass country for the lack of empathy showed by blondie these last couple of days is a very smart thing to do

[on the line]

6 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

PLEASE some of you touch grass omg  using the death of someone to try and paint an artist you don't like in a bad light... the lowest is WHAT. y'all are more disrespectful to this girl's memory than whatever taylor is or isn't doing with the way you are using it for stan wars and ****

This. I'm embarrassed to be part of this forum and disappointed mods let this trolling continue. 

[Cruel Summer]

7 minutes ago, peacok said:

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

If I type “taylor swift” into Google News, there’s an entire section about this specific incident with stories from CNN, MSNBC, EW, NPR, Slate, TIME, E!, Billboard, Bloomberg, the Washington Post, and more. I would imagine further reporting will occur as more developments happen.

[barbiegrande]

I’m confused about the legalities. When stuff like Manchester happened, why did Ariana not have to worry about admission of guilt or being sued?

[PoisonPill]

7 minutes ago, Dreamer2023 said:

Ok I do get that part of the money situation that may take a little bit more but why the silence or the promise of a financial support? 

...What silence? She released a thoughtful letter the day after it happened, then dedicated a segment of her concert to her memory. And if Taylor publicly declared she's giving money to the family, don't try to pretend ya'll wouldn't be in this thread yelling "She's so fake! Exploiting this poor family for good PR!"

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by PoisonPill

[Edu]

Just now, on the line said:

This. I'm embarrassed to be part of this forum and disappointed mods let this trolling continue. 

please enlighten me

how exactly is demanding justice considered trolling?

[byzantium]

7 minutes ago, peacok said:

What is scary is that the US media is not reporting anything about this incident, if you Google Taylor's name right now the top stories are about her relationship with Travis and how one of her heels broke in Brazil  She has them all on a Payroll... apologizing or even paying the funeral expenses would bring international attention to this incident which is what she's trying t avoid, she's just pure evil  

Well that’s not true.  I read a New York Times article on it yesterday.  

[ttsmu]

If she doesn't do anything in the end she will have to make some changes to Karma's lyrics.

[RideOrDie]

5 minutes ago, Dreamer2023 said:

Ana is the victim here, not your fave. Stop trying to make it seem like this is a stan fight. People are just surprised and disappointed for her silence and lack of empathy in this situation

 

3 minutes ago, Dreamer2023 said:

Ok I do get that part of the money situation that may take a little bit more but why the silence or where is promise of a financial support? 

why are you saying she is silent when she posted a story about the girl on her social media? am i missing something here like what else do you want her to say... please enlighten me

[Dear Reader]

Just now, barbiegrande said:

I’m confused about the legalities. When stuff like Manchester happened, why did Ariana not have to worry about admission of guilt or being sued?

I think there’s a major difference between a terrorist attack and negligence from the promoter. 

[byzantium]

1 minute ago, barbiegrande said:

I’m confused about the legalities. When stuff like Manchester happened, why did Ariana not have to worry about admission of guilt or being sued?

Well that was a terrorist attack.  No one was blaming Ariana. 

[perfect blue]

@Taylena I just KNOW the palms of those hands are sweaty from tediously monitoring every post in this thread and furiously smacking the thumbs down button when someone doesn't express unconditional love for Taylor Swift.

 

Unglue yourself from that soiled, pissy computer chair & go take a shower. Then you need to brush the roaches off those moldy stacks of plates and bring them into the kitchen & wash them. Finally, log off and go touch some grass.

[bad guy]

But if this happened somewhere in the US, where she has spent her career alongside her PR team to craft the perfect image, she would have immediately paid her respects on social media, dedicated a post to the victim, paid for the funeral, and be strategically photographed at/going to the funeral as well. 

 

Her inability to not be self-serving is borderline diabolical. 

[perpetual novice]

The excuse that she could be sued for apologising is legitimately crazy. The law doesn’t work like that & even if it did, she can afford to lose a few coins.

[Dreamer2023]

Just now, PoisonPill said:

...What silence? She released a thoughtful letter the day after it happened, then decided a segment of her concert to her memory. And if Taylor publicly declared she's giving money to the family, don't try to pretend ya'll wouldn't be in this thread yelling "She's so fake! Exploiting this poor family for good PR!"

This is not a stan fight again… You’re more worried about you fave’s reputation which tells a lot. She is known for her good will and donations for her american fans. Why isnt she being kind and empathetic for a brazilian fan?