celeb news Swifties are divided over the silence of Taylor/Taylor Nation about the late Swiftie

[Joesuxx]

Idk if this has already been mentioned and I’m not reading 12 pages to check. But a fan base that can afford to buy a zillion variants, and 7” vinyls filled with acoustic versions of the same vocal take could surely whip round via gofundme for one of their own?

[hungrymuffin]

18 minutes ago, Cult Leader 𐕣𐕣 said:

She’s not obligated to say anything to us, because we’re not that girl’s family nor is it our business. She said her original statement and dedicated a performance to her. She’s probably handling this privately with her family, because, that’s a thing people can do. not everything needs to be done for your entertainment because you love a spectacle and deducing a woman’s death to stan drama. 
 

wanting an update is one thing, but thinking you’re ENTITLED to information that a family probably doesn’t want public, about a woman you probably don’t even care about so you can dunk on another woman you don’t even know is what’s really gross, nasty and insensitive. What’s even crazy is if Taylor did give you an update every two seconds you would scream she’s being performative. you don’t know what’s going on, so stop pretending that you do or that you can make the situation less complex than what it is.

 

That being said, if she chooses to speak out: great. if she doesn’t: good. I just hope that they can finally get her body and properly lay her to rest and that concert culture/etiquette/rules or whatever the **** gets reevaluated and changed. so many deaths could’ve been preventable had venues valued lives over a ******* dollar.

 

very well said

if i remember correctly i dont think she mentioned helping kesha with her lawsuit but she did

i think when it comes to helping others she chooses to be more low profile

 

OT: i hope she has helped/will help the family soon

to those deranged people saying its not her fault but dragged her for not helping, you are just disgusting

[Cruel Summer]

2 minutes ago, Joesuxx said:

Idk if this has already been mentioned and I’m not reading 12 pages to check. But a fan base that can afford to buy a zillion variants, and 7” vinyls filled with acoustic versions of the same vocal take could surely whip round via gofundme for one of their own?

Fans (mostly local to Brazil) did already organize to donate and assist with the family’s immediate costs once it was revealed that the family had taken out loans to help get Ana’s remains home.

[Assassin]

3 hours ago, CBC said:

She's getting skulldragged by brazilian swifties... im happy tho that they got together and did all they could to support Ana's family

Brazilian Swifties be like

 

 

[If U Seek Amy]

I have just accepted there is no right answer and neither side is right. It's just subjective. To some if she speaks on it/helps it is a PR move. To others if she doesn't do anything she is a bad person or at least if not bad just careless. 

 

At the end of the day, you can argue either point until you're blue in the face. If you're going to place blame, place blame on the venue and management and all that, not Taylor as an individual. The conditions were awful also. But as cold as it is to some extent that person chose not to leave and take care of their health that resulted in the health problem. Rip to them and it is awful it happened, but no one forced them to endanger themselves for a concert and putting that on Taylor, at least fully, is weird. 

 

Yes, the venue should've been passing around water more and working harder, things should have been managed better, and given the conditions even they should have possibly postponed the show or prepared better, and more. But at the end of the day do you expect Taylor herself to go around at every show while performing to make sure everyone is hydrating, eating, cool enough, etc? That is ridiculous and is that really where we are as a society? Celebrities have to take care of their audience like babies so they can't be sued or blamed or anything like that? You are still in charge of your own health to a large extent and it's not like they had 0 water or resources. You just had to lose your spot. And if losing your spot seeing Taylor is more important than your wellbeing you can't really fault Taylor or her team at least fully for an adult choosing to make that decision, even if things could have been handled better. 

[Joesuxx]

9 minutes ago, If U Seek Amy said:

I have just accepted there is no right answer and neither side is right. It's just subjective. To some if she speaks on it/helps it is a PR move. To others if she doesn't do anything she is a bad person or at least if not bad just careless. 

 

At the end of the day, you can argue either point until you're blue in the face. If you're going to place blame, place blame on the venue and management and all that, not Taylor as an individual. The conditions were awful also. But as cold as it is to some extent that person chose not to leave and take care of their health that resulted in the health problem. Rip to them and it is awful it happened, but no one forced them to endanger themselves for a concert and putting that on Taylor, at least fully, is weird. 

 

Yes, the venue should've been passing around water more and working harder, things should have been managed better, and given the conditions even they should have possibly postponed the show or prepared better, and more. But at the end of the day do you expect Taylor herself to go around at every show while performing to make sure everyone is hydrating, eating, cool enough, etc? That is ridiculous and is that really where we are as a society? Celebrities have to take care of their audience like babies so they can't be sued or blamed or anything like that? You are still in charge of your own health to a large extent and it's not like they had 0 water or resources. You just had to lose your spot. And if losing your spot seeing Taylor is more important than your wellbeing you can't really fault Taylor or her team at least fully for an adult choosing to make that decision, even if things could have been handled better. 

The blame falls solely on whoever decided the event should go ahead in temperatures that would incite a danger to life warning in most places. 

[Sannie]

5 minutes ago, Joesuxx said:

The blame falls solely on whoever decided the event should go ahead in temperatures that would incite a danger to life warning in most places. 

Which, ultimately, was Taylor and her team. But at the same time, it is not always easy for a popstar to know if/when something is safe. The venue has to communicate with them as Taylor and her team are comfortable chilling backstage or in an air conditioned hotel. Taylor is not blameless.

[unclefloprry]

I saw on social media that the most painful thing about this and what some of her Brazilian fans are upset is because they think the things would be different if this mess had happened in the US.  

The reaction of Taylor, her team and the media would be different. Instead of an "uh, so sad, my condolences :/" post. 

[alexrex]

It would be a nice gesture and also the right thing to do given the circumstances, and the girl being a Taylor fan. 

 

However, in no way she is obligated to do it because it wasn't Taylor's fault. It was due to a series of things that caused the girls' death: A heatwave, poor decision making regarding public events at high temperatures, negligence by the organizers for not allowing people to bring water to the concert, and posibly an underlying health condition.

 

So it's not Taylor's responsability. If anything it's the government or the people in charge of those events who should assume the expenses. 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by alexrex

[BrokenMachine]

The situation is tragic of course, but I'm tired after all these years of people wanting to 'drag' Taylor for her 'silence' of so many things. Silence it's just what it is, silence, I can't believe people keep overreacting at just 'silence' 

 

Like, she might be silent because she doesn't care or maybe she wants to get it right and wants enough time for that. But meanwhile, until she takes actual action about something her silence it's just what it is: nothing. Stop overreacting over nothing 

Spoiler

Of course I know being silent instead of taking action shows that tragic situation isn't on her main priorities, and it's such a shame, but it is what it is, let's accept it and move on 

 

Edited November 21, 2023 by BrokenMachine

[TaggedGalaxy]

Ya'll are still fighting in here? 

[Joesuxx]

59 minutes ago, Sannie said:

Which, ultimately, was Taylor and her team. But at the same time, it is not always easy for a popstar to know if/when something is safe. The venue has to communicate with them as Taylor and her team are comfortable chilling backstage or in an air conditioned hotel. Taylor is not blameless.

It’s usually a collaborative decision between the promoter and the venue. I’m not really a Taylor fan, but you could see she was physically uncomfortable performing in those conditions. 

[Superbitch]

They didn’t help the family?

[Dear Reader]

They're submitting a bill to the Legislative Assembly.

 

It requires, among others, the free distribution of drinking and chilled water, the adoption of athermal and non-conductive materials on the floors, a prohibition on obstructing air passages and requires organizers to implement measures to reduce heat, such as air conditioning or ventilation, at events with more than 30 thousand people in the same location. (sorry for any translation errors, I Google translated it to be easier and it seems to be okay)

[Airlie]

I’m actually quite surprised at the response (or lack of) to this situation. I thought she’d grab at any “American sweetheart” opportunity she could get her hands on

[Where are you now?]

I don't mean to be insensitive to the victim, but everyone is blaming everyone else except her. If I were at a concert and to the point of death, I can't imagine keeping my place on the floor instead of going and buying a bottle of water. I don't care who the celebrity is... my health and safety is #1 and no one but me knows my body's limitations in that moment. But very tragic what happened and maybe it wasn't her fault. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Where are you now?

[Raphy23]

12 hours ago, DougAF said:

 

Whew lord… the lawyers in here. In the states, giving money to the family can be used as evidence for an admission of guilt/fault in court, so it’s not as simple as the OTH wish it was. 

Hmm I wonder if there is a way to have it done via 3rd party companies. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Raphy23

[LOTF]

2 hours ago, Dear Reader said:

They're submitting a bill to the Legislative Assembly.

 

It requires, among others, the free distribution of drinking and chilled water, the adoption of athermal and non-conductive materials on the floors, a prohibition on obstructing air passages and requires organizers to implement measures to reduce heat, such as air conditioning or ventilation, at events with more than 30 thousand people in the same location. (sorry for any translation errors, I Google translated it to be easier and it seems to be okay)

I am just in awe that all these things weren't a requirement before, or even isn't a requirement right now

[Edu]

 

 

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'As far as I'm concerned no, it's not true,' reveals Gabriela Benevides to F5.

 

https://f5.folha.uol.com.br/musica/2023/11/familia-de-ana-benevides-nega-contato-de-taylor-swift-e-fake.shtml

[Edu]

just when you think it can't get any worse

#justiceforana

[4Real]

OPS! 

[Dreamer2023]

This is going to be a mess  it’s sad that Taylor has not reached out yet. That’s why stanning a millionaire/ billionaire is never good. They wont ever care about you as an individual. They want money only. 

[Venice B]

I have no words. Whoever planted that page six article is vile.

[Bentley]

Taylor lied? 
 

shocking 

 

[Bimbo]

I mean I don’t know why people suddenly believe Page Six