base talk Imagine Taylor says "Free Palestine" at stadium concert

[PoisonPill]

2 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Taylor Swift is not at the nexus of the cultural conversation around Israel and Palestine pls

Israel Asks Taylor Swift for Help (Newsweek)

 

Taylor Swift Faces Pressure on Both Sides of Israel-Gaza War (The Daily Beast)

 

Israel Confirms That Taylor Swift’s Bodyguard Has Arrived Home to Fight in Hamas War

 

 

At the Taylor Swift movie in Tel Aviv, we took stock of what we lost

[Abracadabra]

Just now, PoisonPill said:

Israel Asks Taylor Swift for Help (Newsweek)

 

Taylor Swift Faces Pressure on Both Sides of Israel-Gaza War (The Daily Beast)

 

Israel Confirms That Taylor Swift’s Bodyguard Has Arrived Home to Fight in Hamas War

 

 

At the Taylor Swift movie in Tel Aviv, we took stock of what we lost

Yeah, those few links don't equate to her being the nexus (which literally means the most central and focal point) of the cultural conversation around Israel and Palestine  Like not even close

[Shelter]

But she won’t. Can imagine her sitting there asking daddy if she should do it. 

[Arrows]

Palestine wouldn’t be freed, but her concerts would be not be a safe place to go anymore. 

[Punky Rooster]

Her fans would think it’s the name of a vault track and hurry to pre order eleven variants.

[PoisonPill]

46 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Yeah, those few links don't equate to her being the nexus (which literally means the most central and focal point) of the cultural conversation around Israel and Palestine  Like not even close

Okay, being the biggest pop culture figure places her in the big conversations. Is that better for you?

[flashfox]

Even if she does, nothing is going to change sadly.

[Abracadabra]

3 minutes ago, PoisonPill said:

Okay, being the biggest pop culture figure places her in the big conversations. Is that better for you?

I... guess. I don't really care, but I think when you are actually aware of the "big conversations" that are happening and the widespread discourse on the issue around the world, Taylor Swift, or any public celebrity figure, is very low on that list. It's especially out of touch to say that she's any kind of focal point of the conversation.

[nostalgic]

The way I'd live for her Not Ready to Make Nice era 

[Bosque]

3 hours ago, Nickimeetsatrl said:

She don’t seem like the person that cares about a genocide, and I’m saying that as a fan. Her career may be more important to her.

As opposed to all the other musical artists who deeply care about all genocides in the world and have spoken out against all of them

 

OT: people who expect any sort of celebrity who has nothing to do with politics, academics or activism to voice any sort of opinion on global conflicts are total weirdos 

Edited November 18, 2023 by Dephira

[JoeAg]

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[KatyPrismSpirit]

I wished she would speak up. Deep down i think she wont since she has a lot of Jewish / zionist friends who probably support Israel. But at the same time, Gigi Hadid is her bestie and she is pro-palestinian. Her speaking up would change a lot.

[Kayseri Mantisi]

3 hours ago, Revolution said:

isnt her producer jack antonoff a zionist

Lorde's too, but she literally did the best speech out of every other artist. So that shouldn't be an excuse.

Edited November 18, 2023 by Kayseri Mantisi

[Apostolis]

i would go to the nearest music shop and buy all her albums

[woohoo]

Taylor’s not touching this topic period. Most celebs aren’t because either you’re labeled as an antisemite or islamaphobic. 

[Bloodflowers.]

Not every popstar is a vocal pro-Palestine voice like Dua Lipa

[Phaunzie]

Honestly I would respect her more and I can fully say that Taylor is no longer silent lamb when it comes to politics. If she did it, she might lose some followers but she would gain more in the process. If she remains silent like she always does, she is gonna stay the white feminist icon that she is.

[byzantium]

Personally, I don't really want American pop stars giving political opinions while on tour in Latin America.  It just reeks of American-centrism and imperialism. 

[Rep2000]

4 hours ago, PoisonPill said:

Israel Asks Taylor Swift for Help (Newsweek)

 

Taylor Swift Faces Pressure on Both Sides of Israel-Gaza War (The Daily Beast)

 

Israel Confirms That Taylor Swift’s Bodyguard Has Arrived Home to Fight in Hamas War

 

 

At the Taylor Swift movie in Tel Aviv, we took stock of what we lost

So the best of people from the Middle East can do to solve their problems is by asking the opinion of an American? who's just a singer and not a state representative?! Who also has never stepped foot into that region in her life?
What's in the white savior complex is going on here in this day?

[Nickimeetsatrl]

19 hours ago, Dephira said:

As opposed to all the other musical artists who deeply care about all genocides in the world and have spoken out against all of them

 

OT: people who expect any sort of celebrity who has nothing to do with politics, academics or activism to voice any sort of opinion on global conflicts are total weirdos 

When you have a genocide going on and a vulnerable group asks to have their story heard because a lot are misguided or ignorant, then yes the best people to bring awareness are those with massive following….

[Storm653]

On 11/18/2023 at 12:55 PM, Trent W said:

I don’t think there is an artist in the mainstream sphere that would do that

 

I never understand why Taylor always gets these isolated scenarios

 

People are in fact orbiting around her rn

Anti-Swifties are just as obsessed with Taylor as actual Swifties. It's the funniest thing.

[Storm653]

Taylor Swift taking a break from speaking on politics: "She's just obsessed with money and refuses to stand for anything."

 

Beyonce performing in Saudi Arabia: "She still cares for the gays. She's just getting the bag. Stop hating."

 

It's funny how this forum still tries to paint Taylor as MAGA when she's endorsed liberal politicians, derided Trump, told her young voters to register to vote in the 2024 election(something Republicans don't like because they've been speaking on raising the voting age), and has collaborated with more pop, indie, and hip hop acts than country acts. 

 

 

[Lemon]

3 minutes ago, Storm653 said:

Taylor Swift taking a break from speaking on politics: "She's just obsessed with money and refuses to stand for anything."

 

Beyonce performing in Saudi Arabia: "She still cares for the gays. She's just getting the bag. Stop hating."

 

It's funny how this forum still tries to paint Taylor as MAGA when she's endorsed liberal politicians, derided Trump, told her young voters to register to vote in the 2024 election(something Republicans don't like because they've been speaking on raising the voting age), and has collaborated with more pop, indie, and hip hop acts than country acts. 

 

 

People who hate her and say they would support her more if she speaks up on this or any kind of similar topic are probably aware of negative consequences that would bring to her career and they, in fact, want that.

It’s not about speaking up and positively influencing situation(s) for Taylor’s detractors. It’s about speaking up, so her career path would potentially get damaged. Pathetic behaviour and mentality if I may note, but it is what it is with them. 

[Storm653]

39 minutes ago, Lemon said:

People who hate her and say they would support her more if she speaks up on this or any kind of similar topic are probably aware of negative consequences that would bring to her career and they, in fact, want that.

It’s not about speaking up and positively influencing situation(s) for Taylor’s detractors. It’s about speaking up, so her career path would potentially get damaged. Pathetic behaviour and mentality if I may note, but it is what it is with them. 

Exactly. 

 

They don't care about what Taylor actually stands for. They just want Taylor to say or do something alienating or controversial enough for her to fall off. There's no sincerity to it at all. 

 

Also, Dua Lipa's literally the only MPG I know of who recently openly supported Palestine this year. Britney's silent. Gaga's silent. Billie's silent. Olivia's silent. Sabrina Carpenter's silent. Christina Aguilera's silent. Doja's silent. Etc. So, why even single Taylor out when very few of the MPG's did what Dua just did?

 

[Lemon]

47 minutes ago, Storm653 said:

Exactly. 

 

They don't care about what Taylor actually stands for. They just want Taylor to say or do something alienating or controversial enough for her to fall off. There's no sincerity to it at all. 

 

Also, Dua Lipa's literally the only MPG I know of who recently openly supported Palestine this year. Britney's silent. Gaga's silent. Billie's silent. Olivia's silent. Sabrina Carpenter's silent. Christina Aguilera's silent. Doja's silent. Etc. So, why even single Taylor out when very few of the MPG's did what Dua just did?

 

Because they see Taylor as someone who can potentially lose the most. When we are talking about someone not on her career amplitude, it is whatever since those can’t lose that much. It’s only about her getting damaged somehow. It’s never about any specific issue at given time ( like this one ). Nobody cares about that, they care about effects that kind of attitude can produce. Sadly, that’s the truth with certain people. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Lemon