base talk Taylor Swift's rival in commercial success is only The Beatles, agree?

[wastedpotential]

1 hour ago, FailSafe said:

The left and right clockings here from the Taylormaniacs

 

We're nothing if not consistent 

[FailSafe]

17 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

We're nothing if not consistent 

Just like Taylor for the past 17 years

 

[Namie-Knowles]

The same nine Swifties were coordinated for upvotes and thumbs downs this thread. Queen ****. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

23 hours ago, FailSafe said:

15 million units in just a year in the US. Literally no one, not even the best-selling SOLOISTS of all time were doing it even at their peak. Miss Taylor is unparalleled. Agree???

 

Eminem did this twice 

[wastedpotential]

11 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Eminem did this twice 

Do you have sources for this? I've seen several mentions across the internet to Taylor being the first to clear 15M in the US. I honestly don't know if they just didn't have Eminem's numbers or if there's a miscommunication somewhere. Were Eminem's figures US-only as well? 

[byzantium]

13 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

Eminem did this twice 

Looking back at the stats.  I’m highly skeptical of this.  The only year he could have maybe done it was 2002 and even then I don’t think he crossed 15 million units in the US. 

[JaXXXon]

Okay, so let's just say it how it is: The Swifties were CLOCKED, disproven, laughed at, ridiculed and dragged all in one thread that I sincerely thought was made as a joke at the beginning only to later find out that the OP as well his co-signing uninformed co-stans are of the same opinion. 

 

The main topic at hand is that she rivals the Beatles. The Beatles, MJ, Madonna, Whitney, Britney, Lady Gaga, Adele and anyone else who had a huge peak experienced big album sales + huge hit singles + huge media presence + radio hit-after-hit all at the same time in every. single. country. Taylor's catalogue sales are very big and her albums are charting simultaneously all across the globe but she does not have the huge hits and she does not have that big of a support outside of Angloshpere in overall consumption nor does she even have the same media presence anywhere BUT Anglosphere.

 

Germany: The Beatles 11 #1 singles, among the best-selling acts in German music history. Taylor 0 #1s, N/A on the all-time list (Lady Gaga, for example, is pretty high on the list along with Rihanna or Adele). 

 

France: The Beatles 7 million albums sold. Taylor has sold less than 1 million copies there. Madonna and MJ are among the top-sellers and have each numerous #1 singles. Taylor has zero. 

 

Poland: While The Beatles have had huge popularity, Madonna and Michael Jackson are prevailing here. Both have had numerous #1 albums. Taylor Swift? Zero. 

 

Switzerland: The Beatles 6 #1 singles, Michael Jackson 6 #1s, Madonna 9 #1s. Taylor Swift zero #1s. 

 

Austria: The Beatles 8 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1s. 

 

Italy: The Beatles 4 #1s, Michael Jackson 7 #1s, Madonna 12 #1s. Taylor Swift? Zero. 

 

Spain: Michael Jackson 20 #1s, Madonna 21 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1s.

 

Sweden: The Beatles 18 #1s, Michael Jackson 3 #1s, Madonna 6 #1s, Taylor Swift ONE #1 single and it's not even hers but Zayn's song  

 

Norway: The Beatles 21 #1s, Madonna 4 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1 songs.

 

The Netherlands: The Beatles 16 #1s, Michael Jackson 6 #1s, Madonna 5 #1s, Taylor Swift 0 #1s. 

 

Japan: The Beatles' Let It Be is literally one of the best-selling singles of all time there. Taylor Swift's number of #1 hits there? At this point we can all say it out loud at once: ZERO 

 

And those are just those territories. Upon my research (something I recommend the Swifties to do for once) I saw how often terms like "ADELE" and "RIHANNA" and "LADY GAGA" popped up as women with most #1s besides Madonna in all of those territories. Taylor bigger-than-the-Beatles Swift? Zero. 

 

The Swifties can keep thump-downing posts that drag the **** out of their initial claims but if Taylor doesn't have the big album sales, #1 hits all at the same time as The Beatles, Madonna or MJ have had then NO SIR she's ain't anywhere near The Beatles or MJ or even Adele outside of Anglospere. 

 

Keep whining though. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2023 by JaXXXon

[Cruel Summer]

12 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Do you have sources for this? I've seen several mentions across the internet to Taylor being the first to clear 15M in the US. I honestly don't know if they just didn't have Eminem's numbers or if there's a miscommunication somewhere. Were Eminem's figures US-only as well? 

In reality, even if you count the 8 Mile soundtrack, which featured just four Eminem tracks out of sixteen on the standard edition, Eminem about 11.1 million units overall in 2002 in the US. That's 11.1 million pure sales between The Eminem Show and the soundtrack combined; negligible sales from his three singles that year which were not certified Gold until 2004, 2005, and 2018; and presumably negligible sales of his other albums, which did not chart on the 2002 year-end charts and were not recertified in 2002 or 2003. His second biggest year was similar, and it was about 9.1 million units in 2000.

 

The Soundscan reports are hard to find for 2002 in particular, for no discernible reason, but there are articles out there that can help piece things together.

[hawx23]

35 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

Okay, so let's just say it how it is: The Swifties were CLOCKED, disproven, laughed at, ridiculed and dragged all in one thread that I sincerely thought was made as a joke at the beginning only to later find out that the OP as well his co-signing uninformed co-stans are of the same opinion. 

 

The main topic at hand is that she rivals the Beatles. The Beatles, MJ, Madonna, Whitney, Britney, Lady Gaga, Adele and anyone else who had a huge peak experienced big album sales + huge hit singles + huge media presence + radio hit-after-hit all at the same time in every. single. country. Taylor's catalogue sales are very big and her albums are charting simultaneously all across the globe but she does not have the huge hits and she does not have that big of a support outside of Angloshpere in overall consumption nor does she even have the same media presence anywhere BUT Anglosphere.

 

Germany: The Beatles 11 #1 singles, among the best-selling acts in German music history. Taylor 0 #1s, N/A on the all-time list (Lady Gaga, for example, is pretty high on the list along with Rihanna or Adele). 

 

France: The Beatles 7 million albums sold. Taylor has sold less than 1 million copies there. Madonna and MJ are among the top-sellers and have each numerous #1 singles. Taylor has zero. 

 

Poland: While The Beatles have had huge popularity, Madonna and Michael Jackson are prevailing here. Both have had numerous #1 albums. Taylor Swift? Zero. 

 

Switzerland: The Beatles 6 #1 singles, Michael Jackson 6 #1s, Madonna 9 #1s. Taylor Swift zero #1s. 

 

Austria: The Beatles 8 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1s. 

 

Italy: The Beatles 4 #1s, Michael Jackson 7 #1s, Madonna 12 #1s. Taylor Swift? Zero. 

 

Spain: Michael Jackson 20 #1s, Madonna 21 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1s.

 

Sweden: The Beatles 18 #1s, Michael Jackson 3 #1s, Madonna 6 #1s, Taylor Swift ONE #1 single and it's not even hers but Zayn's song  

 

Norway: The Beatles 21 #1s, Madonna 4 #1s, Taylor Swift zero #1 songs.

 

The Netherlands: The Beatles 16 #1s, Michael Jackson 6 #1s, Madonna 5 #1s, Taylor Swift 0 #1s. 

 

Japan: The Beatles' Let It Be is literally one of the best-selling singles of all time there. Taylor Swift's number of #1 hits there? At this point we can all say it out loud at once: ZERO 

 

And those are just those territories. Upon my research (something I recommend the Swifties to do for once) I saw how often terms like "ADELE" and "RIHANNA" and "LADY GAGA" popped up as women with most #1s besides Madonna in all of those territories. Taylor bigger-than-the-Beatles Swift? Zero. 

 

The Swifties can keep thump-downing posts that drag the **** out of their initial claims but if Taylor doesn't have the big album sales, #1 hits all at the same time as The Beatles, Madonna or MJ have had then NO SIR she's ain't anywhere near The Beatles or MJ or even Adele outside of Anglospere. 

 

Keep whining though. 

 

 

 

 

The lashings

[Gorjesspazze9]

1 hour ago, byzantium said:

Looking back at the stats.  I’m highly skeptical of this.  The only year he could have maybe done it was 2002 and even then I don’t think he crossed 15 million units in the US. 

He did in 2002 alone. The Eminem show (9M), 8 Mile(4M) MMLP (9M)  SSLP (5M)  equated to 27M units sold in 2002 alone. 
 

he also did it again In 2010 with Recovery units. But it was worldwide not US, so i was wrong there. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by Gorjesspazze9

[byzantium]

14 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

He did in 2002 alone. The Eminem show (9M), 8 Mile(4M) MMLP (9M)  SSLP (5M)  equated to 27M units sold in 2002 alone. 
 

he also did it again In 2010 with Recovery units. But it was worldwide not US, so i was wrong there. 

So this article puts him at 10m units for the year.  Where are the additional 5 million coming from? 
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/11/hln.scoop.top.in.2002/

 

“Throw in his soundtrack album to the film "8 Mile" and Em's total album sales approach 10 million for the year.”

[Gorjesspazze9]

31 minutes ago, byzantium said:

So this article puts him at 10m units for the year.  Where are the additional 5 million coming from? 
 

https://edition.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/11/hln.scoop.top.in.2002/

 

“Throw in his soundtrack album to the film "8 Mile" and Em's total album sales approach 10 million for the year.”

8Mile CD sold 5,440,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 

 

The Eminem Show CD Sold 12,430,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 
 

within that year he also continued to sell albums from The Marshall Mathers LP & The Slim Shady LP during 2002

 

33.3M+ original albums sold in 2002, 17.8M from the United States from Chartmasters.org 

Edited November 5, 2023 by Gorjesspazze9

[JaXXXon]

1 hour ago, hawx23 said:

The lashings

They make it too easy 

 

53 minutes ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

8Mile CD sold 5,440,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 

 

The Eminem Show CD Sold 12,430,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 
 

within that year he also continued to sell albums from The Marshall Mathers LP & The Slim Shady LP during 2002

 

33.3M+ original albums sold in 2002, 17.8M from the United States from Chartmasters.org 

So not only is Taylor Swift trailing behind The Beatles, Madonna, MJ, Adele and Lady Gaga outside of Anglosphere but their whole reason for making this thread is now DRAGGED harder than non-Anglosphere stats drag Taylor’s entire career by Eminem 

 

The Swifties truly keep losing. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by JaXXXon

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

bored much?

Obviously no. 

Your favorite can't even beat beyonce in pure sales.

Edited November 5, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

9 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

They make it too easy 

 

So not only is Taylor Swift trailing behind The Beatles, Madonna, MJ, Adele and Lady Gaga outside of Anglosphere but their whole reason for making this thread is now DRAGGED harder than non-Anglosphere stats drag Taylor’s entire career by Eminem 

 

The Swifties truly keep losing. 

Couldn't agree more

[Gladiator]

some replies here are from people who need to go outside.

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

In ww no.1s she can't even beat Beyoncé either. Not even in the top 9. 

Desperate swifties having nothing to do all day other than dragging every artist to make their idol look inflated and overrated. 

Sorry it won't work forever.

[Selenasworld]

Taylor is way behind of a lot of international artists in Mexico, her Eras concert in the capital just showed how privileged people oriented is her fandom and in this case most of them couldn't care less about stanning her as long as they could Show off thier super expensive tickets overpriced by ticketmaster just because 

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

1 minute ago, Selenasworld said:

Taylor is way behind of a lot of international artists in Mexico, her Eras concert in the capital just showed how privileged people oriented is her fandom and in this case most of them couldn't care less about stanning her as long as they could Show off thier super expensive tickets overpriced by ticketmaster just because 

Yes. Such a boring concert for overpriced and expensive tix for inflation.. Such robberies. 

[Cruel Summer]

1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said:

8Mile CD sold 5,440,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 

 

The Eminem Show CD Sold 12,430,000 Million certified units in the USA in 2002. 
 

within that year he also continued to sell albums from The Marshall Mathers LP & The Slim Shady LP during 2002

 

33.3M+ original albums sold in 2002, 17.8M from the United States from Chartmasters.org 

None of this is correct, by the way. I posted a link above that shows that Soundscan reported 11.1 million sales between the first two albums you mentioned in this post. Neither of the others charted on the year-end chart. The Eminem Show was not certified 12x Platinum until 2022 (link) and 8 Mile (which, again, features only four Eminem songs) was not certified at or above 5x Platinum until 2022 (link). You are confusing their total US sales with yearly sales.

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

seriously i think dumb swifties are the worst in history.

no one has done as low as them.

monsters are way better. 

[JaXXXon]

12 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

None of this is correct, by the way. I posted a link above that shows that Soundscan reported 11.1 million sales between the first two albums you mentioned in this post. Neither of the others charted on the year-end chart. The Eminem Show was not certified 12x Platinum until 2022 (link) and 8 Mile (which, again, features only four Eminem songs) was not certified at or above 5x Platinum until 2022 (link). You are confusing their total US sales with yearly sales.

Eminem sold well over 11 milion units from mostly one album with one version and you think Taylor who released three albums in a calender year with countless special editions mixed with streaming from private listening sessions at home is somehow more impressive? 
 

Anyways, Eminem’s two albums have actually impressive stats in most countries (which is why that album alone sold about 20 million copies WW) unlike Swift’s albums which aren’t even touching that threshold individually despite having inflated units from streams. Most Taylor achievements aren’t the brag you thought they would be. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by JaXXXon

[thequeenofpopmadonna]

they underestimate and drag every other artist whether elder or new, and then overestimate and inflate their idol to make look good desperately. and cause the stir and problems all the time.

scams in pop.

Edited November 5, 2023 by thequeenofpopmadonna

[JaXXXon]

3 minutes ago, thequeenofpopmadonna said:

seriously i think dumb swifties are the worst in history.

no one has done as low as them.

monsters are way better. 

To be honest at least Monsters talking how Gaga was the next Madonna had some valid points because Gaga was charting number one singles and albums on the year-end charts and was making headlines and had smash hit-after-hit-after-hit on radio in every single country all at the same time unlike Swifties and their idol who has subpar sales outside of like five-six markets WW. 

[Cruel Summer]

5 minutes ago, JaXXXon said:

Eminem sold well over 11 milion units from mostly one album with one version and you think Taylor who released three albums in a calender year with countless special editions mixed with streaming from private listening sessions at home is somehow more impressive? 
 

Anyways, Eminem’s two albums have actually impressive stats in most countries (which is why that album alone sold about 20 million copies WW) unlike Swift’s albums which aren’t even touching that threshold individually despite having inflated units from streams. Most Taylor achievements aren’t the brag you thought they would be. 

Barely over 11 million, two albums, one of which was actually not his, and with plenty of opportunity to release more versions had it been deemed financially viable. “Anyways.”