differentkindahigh Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Without famous men to date, Taylor Swift would be a non factor post 2011. 1 4 8
bijonse Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) The Britney sneak. Beyoncé rihanna gaga taylor drake and unfortunately Justin Bieber are as famous as them even if they’re not as successful Edited October 25, 2023 by bijonse
Bosque Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, iamanearthling said: We’re living in one right now and you know who she is. Don’t be shy. The fact that this response took off despite making 0 sense grammatically is sending me 1
WildHeart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said: Without famous men to date, Taylor Swift would be a non factor post 2011. Instagram Followers Joe Alwyn + Matty Healy + Travis Kelce - 9M Taylor Nation x 2 - 14M Are those famous men in the room with us right now Edited October 25, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 1 2 1
GoodGuyGoneGhetto Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Well… • Rihanna is literally the best selling artist to debut this century in terms of record sales WW. She is the biggest hitmaker and is the most certified artist WW with the 2nd most #1 hits after Madonna on the international charts. • Lady Gaga’s debut album, along with her celebrity between 2009-2012, was on a level that, arguably, no other act has experienced this century so far and especially on a global stage. She was the definition of a Pop phenomenon at the time. • Beyoncé is literally the most acclaimed music artist of the past 20 years as well as the most awarded and currently has the highest grossing female tour ever. • Taylor Swift is literally obliterating streaming, touring and album-chart records as we speak and isn’t slowing down. • Adele and her 2nd/3rd album don’t even need an explanation. I don’t need to go on, but they’ve all reached a level of success that is easily comparable to Madonna and MJ in the 80’s overall. I don’t know why Britney Spears was singled out either when there’s artists that have sold more than her and accomplished more too. Edited October 25, 2023 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto 3 1
WildHeart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, leyaris11 said: some other singer had their time gaga 09-11 or katy 2010-2015 and that's it but people is obsessed with britney over three decades... 1
Kimi Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 53 minutes ago, GlamSlam said: Anyone who witnessed Madonna's rein / peak wouldn't be talking such nonsense. Michael's the King of Pop, so why do you think she's known as THE Queen of Pop? Cause she was the closest to him not equal pls. MJ was like The Beatles.
differentkindahigh Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Instagram Followers Joe Alwyn + Matty Healy + Travis Kelce - 9M Taylor Nation x 2 - 14M Are those famous men in the room with us right now Yes. Those and all previous, including: Harry Styles John Mayer Taylor Lautner Joe Jonas Jake Gyllenhaal Calvin Harris Tom Hiddleston and Connor Kennedy - are all major reasons why she has lasted so long. And have both indirectly and directly impacted her following, including Instagram Followers and relevance in the news media. Her current football boyfriend is doing his chore right now. Edited October 25, 2023 by differentkindahigh 1 1 1
Cheers Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Rihanna? Taylor Swift? Justin Bieber? Lady Gaga? Beyoncé? Very odd to put Britney in the title
kexin Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Britney is a legend lmao, and is up there with Madonna/MJ. everyone knows her, get real 1 3
kexin Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 you don’t even need to listen to Britney’s music to know who she is. 1 1
narid Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Kimi said: Cause she was the closest to him not equal pls. MJ was like The Beatles. The need of OMH's to downplay Madonna's achievements is incredibly amusing. Must be having a really hard time the moment.
WildHeart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said: - are all major reasons why she has lasted so long. And have both indirectly and directly impacted her following, including Instagram Followers and relevance in the news media. Her current football boyfriend is doing his chore right now. She is the biggest artist in the world right now because she is dating with a NFL player with 4M followers who has no reach outside of the US? Edited October 25, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 1
SlowGinFizzzz Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Even Britney didn't reach Madonna & Michael's level, but she definitely came closest. The only other artist that's up there with them is Beyoncé.
Antikythera Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 There are people who are really famous and they have a different kind of lengedary. Thing is the line of Madonna and Britney is performatic pop, MJ also. And performatic pop is dead in the west. So there is no latger then life performers the ones who capture the minds and pop culture history. Everything is cyclical and performance will be back sometime in the future and we will have new stars from that line. Taylor is a huge star, but for me she is in the lineage of Carly Simon, Joni Mittchel, Carole King. That singer songwriter who is big but cant dance, something very much 70s. In that regard she is totally super huge, but she is not the same kind of artist as MJ, Madonna or Britney. Beyonce on the other hand, tries to be a new Tina Turner and she fails miserably cause Tina was really the ultimate rockstar. Tina took risks on stage, she was a perfectionist but she was also a proud risk taker. Maybe because her career was never so acclaimed all the time, she had to take risks to survive, she went years having to deal with a midia scenary that would just not accepet she peaked after her 40s or that she felt more welcomed jn Europe. So I think difficulty makes some of these legends what they are as performers and I dont see it working in the loooong wrong for someone who so carefully work for controlling everything and being God.
Raspberries Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said: Yes. Those and all previous, including: Harry Styles John Mayer Taylor Lautner Joe Jonas Jake Gyllenhaal Calvin Harris Tom Hiddleston and Connor Kennedy - are all major reasons why she has lasted so long. And have both indirectly and directly impacted her following, including Instagram Followers and relevance in the news media. Her current football boyfriend is doing his chore right now. And? Britney and Madonna dated very famous and powerful men too 1 2
differentkindahigh Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: She is the biggest artist in the world right now because she is dating with a NFL player with 4M followers who has no reach outside of the US? Let's not try and twist my words. I said what I said. We're not going back and forth on this. Those men have all heavily, collectively contributed to her current position in media. And without the media, she would not be doing the numbers she has nor have her current fanbase. Edited October 25, 2023 by differentkindahigh
TouchinFree Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 No one can, and no one will. Beyonce and gaga are close though. 1
WildHeart Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, differentkindahigh said: And without the media, she would not be doing the numbers she has nor have her current fanbase. As if that didn’t apply to MJ, Madonna and Britney as well Edited October 25, 2023 by Artistofthedecade
Cruel Summer Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 The downplaying of certain currently peaking girls in here - I know it shouldn’t surprise me, but I really wonder when people are going to get the memo. You don’t shift a ridiculous total of like 50 million units in a year or go on the biggest tour of all time (box scores pending!) without having THAT level of fame, especially not 17 years into your career. You don’t do it just because you’ve dated a few famous men, either, not when your own career dwarfs the combined profiles of all of those men. It’s becoming increasingly clear that a certain proportion of people denying her status are simply out of touch. 5 1
Sweeftie13 Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Taylor Swift (2014-2016 and 2023-2024) : 1989 era and Midnights/Eras Tour/Taylor Version Katy Perry (2010-2015) : from teenage dream to her Super Bowl Lady Gaga (2009-2011 and the and maybe 2019/Oscar moment): The Fame/The Fame/Monster/Born This Way + Shallow/ASIB Adele (2011-2015) : 21 and 25 eras + the oscar moment Beyoncé (2009-2008 and 2013-2016) I'm...Shasha Fierce + her great albums "Beyoncé" + Super Bowl + fame peak in 2016 + formation
Raspberries Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said: As if that doesn't apply to MJ, Madonna and Britney as well Literally lmao Britney was a part of one of the biggest celebrity couples of the 00s, but Taylor is the only one who had relationships that helped boost her profile 1 1
Raspberries Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Just now, Sweeftie13 said: Taylor Swift (2014-2016 and 2023-2024) : 1989 era and Midnights/Eras Tour/Taylor Version Katy Perry (2010-2015) : from teenage dream to her Super Bowl Lady Gaga (2009-2011 and the and maybe 2019/Oscar moment): The Fame/The Fame/Monster/Born This Way + Shallow/ASIB Adele (2011-2015) : 21 and 25 eras + the oscar moment Beyoncé (2009-2008 and 2013-2016) I'm...Shasha Fierce + her great albums "Beyoncé" + Super Bowl + fame peak in 2016 + formation Katy was definitely not on the other girls' level of fame. She was a hit machine but she didn't have a ginormous celebrity profile
differentkindahigh Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: As if that doesn't apply to MJ, Madonna and Britney as well I wrote because of the men she conflated into her life, she would be irrelevant in this conversation. She used men to make the media interested in her, because unlike the other 3 you mentioned there is not the artistry, the music or anything else interesting about her to write about. If you're upset about that you can say it. Edited October 25, 2023 by differentkindahigh
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